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Record amount of stimulants seized in Shizuoka; 7 Chinese men arrested

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So, maybe soon, will we read about these people's bosses being jailed?

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Police were probably tipped of by a rival organization.

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This black market exists because of the illegal status of the drugs.

At least in Japan, the black market does not generate so much public violence.

If only people would make sure to limit their intoxication to the approved list of intoxicants, this problem would not exist. When will people learn to become alcoholics instead of junkies?

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Good job authorities. Keep these dangerous stimulant drugs out of Japan.

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supply and demand..... this won't change anything in the wider scheme

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Interesting that it was being smuggled in through the pacific side, rather than the Sea of Japan side.

Maritime drug busts are generally in the Niigata, Toyama, or Tottori, Shimane area.

Maybe they thought they were being smart taking the long route.

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I wish this kind of drug confiscation and arrest is happens to my home country too. Ditto for the Jpolicemen and whoever were instrumental in this bust.

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So, maybe soon, will we read about these people's bosses being jailed?

If you mean the yakuza bosses who import and sell this stuff, no.

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Illegal drugs are sold at higher prices in Japan than elsewhere, making it a lucrative market, and its coastline provides convenient access for smugglers, experts say.

i think any bum on the street would know this.

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Keep these dangerous stimulant drugs out of Japan.

Did you know that the Japanese invented crystal meth to keep soldiers awake during WWII? Not trying to say they should be allowed here, but your criticism of the west is awfully silly.

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amid concern about growing drug use among ordinary people

Well who the hell do they think use drugs? Extraordinary people???

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When will people learn to become alcoholics instead of junkies?

This facetious point makes no sense. As if adding to the number of substances people can abuse would somehow improve the situation.

Lol

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Huge haul and more to do with Chinese gangsters than the Japanese ones, although they do at times work together. Triads and Yakuza.

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DeadforgoodToday  09:20 am JST

Keep these dangerous stimulant drugs out of Japan.

Did you know that the Japanese invented crystal meth to keep soldiers awake during WWII? Not trying to say they should be allowed here, but your criticism of the west is awfully silly.

No that's not true.

"A Japanese chemist first synthesized methamphetamine—also called meth, crank, crystal meth or speed—from another stimulant in 1893. Methamphetamine was used early on as a medical treatment for narcolepsy, asthma and as a weight-loss drug. During World War II, the Allies and Axis powers both used the drug to keep troops awake. After the war, meth use increased dramatically, even after it was outlawed by the United States in 1970."

https://www.history.com/topics/crime/history-of-meth

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Perhaps Japan should execute them as the Chinese have done to Japanese smugglers for far smaller quantities.

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Perhaps Japan should execute them as the Chinese have done to Japanese smugglers for far smaller quantities.

Excellent idea!

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The story says the stuff came from Hong Kong, i.e. China.

Where was it made, and how did it get to Hong Kong?

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The post only states "stimulant" drugs and not which one because the authority will have to analysis it first. There are many types of stimulant drugs,

Methamphetamine.

Amphetamine. Was used during the war on all sides. Very common western drug in the 1970's. Easy to make.

The Difference Between Methamphetamine and Amphetamine

Both drugs are stimulants of the central nervous system. However, amphetamine is chemically phenylethylamine, while methamphetamine is referred to as N-methylamphetamine.

https://www.thecabinchiangmai.com/blog/the-difference-between-methamphetamine-and-amphetamine/

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They are not afraid to be arrested and punished in Japan. Taxes are used to punish them in Japan. In order to avoid wasting tax, let's repatriate the drug of evidence and theirs with the protest of the Japanese government. Of course, the Chinese government will punish them without hesitation(It will be a felony in China). And criminal organizations will be afraid of smuggling of illegal drugs.

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When I read about estimated street prices of drugs in Japan I felt like commenting so here goes - I lived in Roppongi from '78 until '85 so my data is from the streets. In the 80's a gram of coke was as high as Y35,000 for was a full gram of decent quality. After that the average price for a gram gradually decreased to about 15,000. Up until 15 years ago it was 12,000, the bags were not full grams and quality was dropping. Nowadays price is 10-15,000 for fake crap coke that barely fills the bottom of a gram bag. Use at your own risk.

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No that's not true.

Ok sure.

My point was, the Japanese invented it. Whether it was for dieting or keeping soldiers awake is beyond my point made at the original poster who was criticizing the west. Seems you failed to recognize the point I was making as well.

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Regardless, never done meth, and have no interest. Disgusting drug with disgusting repercussions...not sure why its so popular in Japan though. Maybe its cheaper than other drugs?

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It was Amphetamine, not Methamphetamine that was issued during the war.

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It was Amphetamine, not Methamphetamine that was issued during the war.

What, like speed or adderall then?

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Or is speed a methamphetamine? Sorry, I'm pretty stupid when it comes to this sort of thing...not a chemist!

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Or is speed a methamphetamine? Sorry, I'm pretty stupid when it comes to this sort of thing...not a chemist!

"Speed" is the British code/slang for amphetamine which was liked by the "Mods on scoters", fans of the Who band. Easier to make and less dangerous than methamphetamine.

Amphetamine is addictive but much less so than methamphetamine. Both will badly effect your gums and your teeth will eventually fall out. Eats at the nose bones since most would snort the white powder of amphetamine.

What, like speed or adderall then?

"Adderall is a combination medication containing four salts of amphetamine. Adderall is used in the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and narcolepsy. It is also used as an athletic performance enhancer and cognitive enhancer, and recreationally as an aphrodisiac and euphoriant. "

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Most of what washes up in Japan seems to be crystal meth, called various names like shabu, ice or 'S'.

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They never say what they are, just 'stimulants'.

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I feel like I should be reading this with an 1920's radio voice. Because the news seems of that time!

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Definitely a tip off.

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There are many types of Chinese.............just like Japanese. Crime is crime. Why nobody in Japan is reporting on Japanese drug trafficking ???.

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I assume the feds caught the Japanese distributors, and gave them a small plea deal for ratting out the Chinese mules. Perhaps. That's how I assume most of these stings go down anyways. Would be quite irritating to find out you got sold out for more time on the same crime...

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From the post:

The arrests of the Chinese suspects were part of an ongoing investigation into international drug rings and gangster groups following reports of suspicious ships in the Izu area.

The authorities were alerted to increase ships and the drug boat was outfitted with two very fast engines not normally used.

"Local residents had reported sightings of a suspicious boat over several years, prompting the police to mount a stakeout on the beach, the sources said."

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/06/05/national/crime-legal/record-1-ton-haul-stimulants-seized-beach-central-japan/#.XPilgy2B2Uk

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The authorities were alerted to increase ships and the drug boat was outfitted with two very fast engines not normally used.

"Local residents had reported sightings of a suspicious boat over several years, prompting the police to mount a stakeout on the beach, the sources said."

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/06/05/national/crime-legal/record-1-ton-haul-stimulants-seized-beach-central-japan/#.XPilgy2B2Uk

Yea, but who knows if any of this info can be verified.

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There are many types of Chinese.............just like Japanese. Crime is crime. Why nobody in Japan is reporting on Japanese drug trafficking ???.

Because this is Japan. china makes a big deal of arresting, torturing and murdering Japanese nationals by claiming them as "spies"...without proper trial or proof. Why doesn't any chinese speak up for the Japanese?

I say execute these drug traffickers. Japanese taxpayers shouldn't have to support their free meals in jail.

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The arrests of the Chinese suspects were part of an ongoing investigation into international drug rings and gangster groups following reports of suspicious ships in the Izu area

I also wonder why the (presumably Japanese) distributors were not arrested.

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I also wonder why the (presumably Japanese) distributors were not arrested

Why do we all presume the distributors are Japanese and not the hundreds of chinese in Japan?

Do you think if Japanese drug dealers were arrested in china, the chinese distributors will also be punished?

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It has been reported that the largest importer of opioids into the U.S. are Chinese.

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Stimulants is very vague. Is it coke, meth or ecstasy? Something else?

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DeadforgoodJune 6  11:23 am JST

No that's not true.

Ok sure.

My point was, the Japanese invented it. Whether it was for dieting or keeping soldiers awake is beyond my point made at the original poster who was criticizing the west. Seems you failed to recognize the point I was making as well.

You could have made your point without posting totally erroneous information.

And how does "keep the drugs out of Japan" translate to "the West" when the article says the perpetrators were Chinese?

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I'm confident that no Japanese people were involved because the yak allows Chinese people to freely run illicit operations.

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You could have made your point without posting totally erroneous information.

To be fair, the post was not totally erroneous given it was Japanese chemists who invented meth.

Meth is extremely popular in Japan. If I had to guess why, I'd say it's poor sleep hygiene coupled with needing to look busy at work for 16 hours a day.

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This facetious point makes no sense. As if adding to the number of substances people can abuse would somehow improve the situation.

Removing the black market would not improve the situation?

What a weird stance to talk. I think all of our situations would be improved if there were no black market. Black markets end up in violence, and an underground economy that is not taxed or regulated.

I'm not sure how you qualify 'improving the situation', but I certainly think that getting rid of black markets and the organized crime that crops up around them is most definitely an improvement of the situation. I question what your objectives in life are, if you feel otherwise.

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Meantime another 1.6 tons found in Australia. From Bangkok it says, but the writing on the packages is Chinese. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-48551669

Is this coincidence or part of a worldwide push?

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