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Police suspect Vietnamese group stole hundreds of pigs, fruit

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Well done NPA. Go get them.!!!!

-14 ( +15 / -29 )

Let me guess the excuse: Poverty

-19 ( +10 / -29 )

It's depicable how kisha club medias emphasize the nationality of the criminals when foreigners to highlight it.

Don't forget japanese mobs often use foreigners to do their dirty work !

15 ( +25 / -10 )

"I purchased pigs by social media," the police quoted one of the four suspects as saying.

Buying things in social media is not a crime but these poor people just will end up confessing things that they didn't commit. Those things that they bought on social media were not illegal item at all. If it's illegal item then they should be punished.

Lot of them just lost their job in their former workplace during pandemic so they just looking cheaper items to buy or other way just to survive.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2020/07/16/general/tokyo-temple-pandemic-vietnamese-workers/

3 ( +14 / -11 )

Putting aside the issue of nationality, stealing animals and then selling the ill-gotten meat on social media is pretty much the stupidest crime I can think of.

17 ( +20 / -3 )

I bought a pig for 15,000 yen on social media and then slaughtered it with a knife and a burner, cut it into pieces and ate them with my roommate," 

Adding the roommate probably spoiled the flavor....

24 ( +25 / -1 )

I bought a pig for 15,000 yen on social media and then slaughtered it with a knife and a burner, cut it into pieces and ate them with my roommate,

I imagine driving the hapless pig into the apartment must have been quite a caper!

14 ( +16 / -2 )

They were brought over here by Japanese farms and corporations to labor at dirt-cheap wages to serve the interests of the Japanese economy and keep Japanese people fed. Then their employers fired them due to coronavirus, and so now they have no money and can't go home.

What do you expect them to do? Live without food and money?

A suspect told NHK he needed money to live. The Japanese govt needs to give them welfare assistance now. They don't have family or other support infrastructure that laid-off Japanese laborers can fall back on. A previous story says some were being assisted by volunteers at a temple. Sorry, that's pathetic in a "developed" economy.

When it comes to immigration, Japan wants all the benefits while taking none of the responsibility. And then blaming foreigners when things don't go its way.

27 ( +32 / -5 )

When it comes to immigration, Japan wants all the benefits while taking none of the responsibility. And then blaming foreigners when things don't go its way.

Humanity Japan. Consider how these laborers you've invited have fallen into such circumstances.

11 ( +15 / -4 )

can't go home.

Why not?

2 ( +11 / -9 )

Does this mean that people who hunt or live on farms and kill and dress animals for the table are commiting a crime?

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

No doubt Covid layoffs and the ketchiness of the authorities here has played a part, but where I come from people of this same ethnicity were once implicated in their disappearance whenever a canine went missing. Never assume that those from afar share the same cultural assumptions and understanding about what’s acceptable and what’s not.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

Lot's of foreigners who lost their jobs due to corvid had no families to go back to unlike the Japanese nationals who had.They also had little to no support and there were no flights.

And Japan still wants to attract foreign workers.

4 ( +8 / -4 )

This is a good example of countries bringing in foreigners and exploiting them. When they can't survive they do what ever they can do to survive in the environment they were brought into. If the government doesn't give them help. I could believe that perhaps some of those who say they bought the pigs on the internet was true. Its a community forum where they share ideas and perhaps sold things and this is how they purchased the pigs

5 ( +9 / -4 )

This is what happens when you leave Illegal Aliens unchecked in your country.

-1 ( +6 / -7 )

@kaimycahl

"This is a good example of countries bringing in foreigners and exploiting them. When they can't survive they do what ever they can do to survive in the environment they were brought into. If the government doesn't give them help."

a couple thoughts...

Clever attempt to blame someone else for their actions... Not taking responsibility ... The "infant" syndrome.

2-

"Survive in the environment they were brought into"....

Last time I checked Japan Inc wasn't carrying out abductions on foreign soil... Nobody forced them to board a plane

3 - You are a mid 20s female ( or male raised mostly by females)

Domo

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

So they didnt nab them on theft (unproven) but rather the illegal slaughter and then BBQing of the pigs.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

@oyattosa

Not taking responsibility ... The "infant" syndrome.

You're clearly referring to the Japanese employers and the govt. Where is the unemployment insurance for these unemployed workers? Where can they sign on for welfare income assistance? Why has a public-sector assistance organization not yet been formed, many years AFTER this program was set up? why must a temple and its volunteers provide support like meals and not the govt and employers? Where is the responsibility?

The Japanese side surely does suffer from "infant syndrome," as it did during Brazilian-Japanese immigration fiasco before.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Man, I bet cops in Ota must be super excited. Since nothing ever happens in that middle of nowhere place.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

They were brought over here by Japanese farms and corporations to labor at dirt-cheap wages to serve the interests of the Japanese economy and keep Japanese people fed. Then their employers fired them due to coronavirus, and so now they have no money and can't go home.

What do you expect them to do? Live without food and money?

A suspect told NHK he needed money to live. The Japanese govt needs to give them welfare assistance now. They don't have family or other support infrastructure that laid-off Japanese laborers can fall back on. A previous story says some were being assisted by volunteers at a temple. Sorry, that's pathetic in a "developed" economy.

When it comes to immigration, Japan wants all the benefits while taking none of the responsibility. And then blaming foreigners when things don't go its way.

Also their trainee and tokutei ginou visa is tied with their employer and particular field, it's not that easy for them to switch job even there are jobs in their area.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

Yeah blame the farmers, or Japan, not the crims, until it happens to you; worst types there are.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

@oyattosa!!!

Clever attempt to blame someone else for their actions... Not taking responsibility ... The "infant" syndrome.

ast time I checked Japan Inc wasn't carrying out abductions on foreign soil... Nobody forced them to board a plane

For those people to get into Japan is not that cheap for them, most of them have debt back their home just to get into program that can bring them to Japan.

Once in Japan they won't get same social net that most of Japanese would get. Also they won't have that flexibility in switching between.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

@sakurasuki

"Once in Japan they won't get same social net that most of Japanese would get."

And rightly so

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

@Oyattosa

One question: If they are here legally (on a Japanese Government approved visa) and pay taxes why should they not have access to the social net?

4 ( +4 / -0 )

I'm one with some posters who think that crimes like this doesn't represent the whole foreignerdom esp Asians. But to say it's because of poverty is quite assuming. I'm one of those whose job contract wasn't extended because the company prioritize some Japanese language students cum contract workers. And hard to say but they're Vietnamese. They do it out of poverty? Come on. They looked well fed, well dressed and have leisure money to spend. Those who looked poor are those who are newly arrived and it won't last for long even. They've been raking a lot. For one, they're not even paying the right dues to the govt. Hence people like me would be receiving unemployment insurance depleting govt funds while they don't add up to the fund. One reason probably why the retirement age kept changing. I admire them for being young and doing everything to reach their dreams. I see myself in them. If only they pay their dues and don't harm the economy in the long run.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

@trinklets

Sorry about your situation.

I agree with you that they should be paying the correct withholding tax for the safety net items such as health insurance etc. and the employer should may the required unemployment insurance.

In the case if these men who committed the crimes they should have a trial and if found guilty they should be deported.

Unfortunately some racist xenophobic people are on this site who extrapolate this to all foreigners.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

Clever attempt to blame someone else for their actions... Not taking responsibility ... The "infant" syndrome.

Japan still struggles with this by not taking responsibility for these workers whom they need. Use them then abuse them will come back to bite Japan.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

@TokyoEngineer, most of them work 2 jobs and have more than 48workhrs per week yet they don't contribute to Shakai Hoken. They've been enjoying too much privileges. Imagine receiving some discounts even in travel and in leisure just by showing their students ID's yet they're earning more than 15 man. There was even a time many yrs ago when I was earning around 13 man and how much do you think was the take home pay after the social insurance and the taxes were deducted? So they're claiming poverty but they're not paying the right dues. Iam the one living in poverty yet I don't steal pigs, cows, fruits and veggies. It's time the police make a surveillance on some of those ethnic mini marts perhaps or your door to door or online food sellers.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

"I purchased pigs by social media"

I think the dude's telling porkies.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Yesterday on the Japanese TV news there was a report of a farmer who had 1000 ducks stolen. While they were actually bred to eat bugs from crop areas (rather than for food), I am sure they are now in freezers or on dinner tables.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

@Tokyo-Engr

I don't think new comers should get the same social net that lifetime paying citizens have.

That being said, i think they should qualify for some kind of help..Based on human decency...but that's not my fight...It s THEIR responsibility to work out a deal with the state... When you're a guest you're a guest... Sure i ll feed ya a couple days , i lll pour ya wine... but you're not going to re-paint the living room to your taste on my dime.

Also, the racist xenophobic card is shredding every time you pull it out... It' s becoming the mantra of the moron ... No arguments? Racist!!!

Anyway, gotta rip... i hope it was clear enough.

Onwards!!!

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Casting aspersions on the Vietnamese is wrong, without proof!

It is a simple matter for the J-cops to check their local Kibana for Vietnamese living in a 50km radius.

Also, if they hired a truck, then again the same thing.

I have heard the police blame burglary on the Chinese’ without a shred of evidence.

It is the same rubbish again!

1 ( +1 / -0 )

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