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Extradite to France is the solution.

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That's the Japanese system for you. Rife with corruption and dubious connections. Then again, sigh..., what country's government isn't?

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Absolutely shocking news!

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You don't say!

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Japan's probe was limited and had many flaws. Par for the course, same as the sun rising tomorrow....next.

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Geez it's ok for a Japanese to destroy the public trust!

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Takeda, the great-grandson of Emperor Meiji, told Kyodo News through his lawyer that he is "innocent, as I said to the French judge."

"It is true that I signed off the contract with Black Tidings as the final decision-maker, but I was not involved with the selection of all the consultants," he said.

This story with Takeda.Mori, Bach and Dentsu shows how the privledged view almost any public operation as an opportunity to loot the treasury along with their cronies and affiliated companies.

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These Olympic Games are wallowing in poison and deceit. From the outset to it's present pathetic state. Yahwei is punishing Japan for its lies. We're about to lose billions.

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A French judge investigating Tokyo's alleged vote-buying around its bid to host the 2020 Olympics has labeled a Japanese probe into the claims "limited" and having "many flaws,"

Japanese prosecutors "failed to question all the witnesses or seize documents" that had been requested from the French side.

That's all still they are free people charged with no crime.

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limited...flawed...

Its only natural. You can't leave the beneficiary to investigate its own crime where it gained from it. That is a huge conflict of interest. Furthermore, even if an outside investigators are used, it would be hard-pressed to gain proper ground within this system. Especially when roads lead to the government.

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As the French would say "Quelle suprise"

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*In the eyes of the French investigators, their Japanese counterparts' probe was unsatisfactory, with the preliminary judge quoted by the sources as telling Takeda that Japanese prosecutors "failed to question all the witnesses or seize documents" that had been requested from the French side.*

Where are all the people to tell us how the Japanese “justice” system isn’t flawed?

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Japan has lost something that no amount of money in the world can buy. Integrity.

Can Japan be trusted anymore?

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We have a 99% conviction rate. That shows how thorough we are in investigating crimes.

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I'm shocked, shocked, to learn that corruption, vote-rigging, and under-the-counter deals were part of the Japan Olympic Bid.

I haven't been this devastated since I found out that Pope Francis is a secret Catholic.

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Logic has not always been Japan's strong suit. Japan's relies a lot on loyalty, faith, and conformity. Quite often they are all the same thing!

5 ( +7 / -2 )

As above; Japan relies on loyalty, faith, conformity and CORRUPTION.

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We have a 99% conviction rate. That shows how thorough we are in investigating crimes.

Incorrect. Japan has a 99% conviction rate because it relies on forced confessions garnered through relatively indefinite detention and defense lawyers not being allowed to be present during interrogations and interrogations not being routinely recorded.

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Well, karma is biting Japan big time with the postponement and probable cancellation due to the pandemic.Turkey who were the favorites to get, must be thanking their God every day.

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We have a 99% conviction rate. That shows how thorough we are in investigating crimes.

oh dear another gullible one, Japan doesn't count cases that are thrown out and not presented to court. they only count the cases they know they can win and present in court, when youve got judges that are appointed by the ministry of justice that are basically run by the prosecutors, yeah not much conflicting interests hey.

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Black Tidings: discomfort, old boy.

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In the eyes of the French investigators, their Japanese counterparts' probe was unsatisfactory, with the preliminary judge quoted by the sources as telling Takeda that Japanese prosecutors "failed to question all the witnesses or seize documents" that had been requested from the French side.

Where are all the people to tell us how the Japanese “justice” system isn’t flawed?

Not going to say it isn't flawed, but this case really has nothing to do with it. This is an international matter, and if they couldn't prove internationally that the bid was bribed, they are really just grasping at straws.

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Although the Olympics will probably be cancelled, Papa Diack won the gold.

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Not going to say it isn't flawed, but this case really has nothing to do with it. This is an international matter, and if they couldn't prove internationally that the bid was bribed, they are really just grasping at straws.

The article clearly states that the investigation into bribery by Japanese prosecutors was deemed flawed by the body investigating the corruption. This very much means this case has a lot to do with the flaws of the Japanese “justice” system.

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“Under French law, bribery of private citizens and public officials is illegal whereas in Japan such a transaction is always considered mandatory.”

Fixed it!

in any case, no surprise... a nation investigating its own scandal being flawed.

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Wow. Who would have thought . . . .

When Japanese officials 'investigate' their own, the process isn't that thorough.

Are we surprised? No.

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In the eyes of the French investigators, their Japanese counterparts' probe was unsatisfactory, with the preliminary judge quoted by the sources as telling Takeda that Japanese prosecutors "failed to question all the witnesses or seize documents" that had been requested from the French side.

France: Please, inconvenience anyone at our request.

This was due to a difference in the penal code between the two countries, the judge said. Under French law, bribery of private citizens and public officials is illegal whereas in Japan such a transaction is only considered bribery if a public official is a recipient.

France: We recognize what they did may just be legal in their land, but we are going to ignore that and call their investigation flawed.

Is there something missing?

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

There is no public trust, only complete morons trust what officials say...

in Japan such a transaction is only considered bribery if a public official is a recipient.

That is because without bribery nothing will happen...

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Every big project in Japan was/is backed by bribes. Public knows but doesn't care, so they don't even hide it. The bigger construction project, the bigger the bribery is.

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I don't think the word "alleged" is needed in the heading.

The bribery seems to be pretty obvious and nothing new for Olympic bidding.

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Takeda, the great-grandson of Emperor Meiji

These few words explaining his pedigree are a crystal clear indication that nothing would ever by allowed to eventuate as a result of the " probe " by J-authorities. No wrogdoing is the only possible outcome.

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The article clearly states that the investigation into bribery by Japanese prosecutors was deemed flawed by the body investigating the corruption. This very much means this case has a lot to do with the flaws of the Japanese “justice” system.

No, it means they didn't do everything the French requested, which would be illegal in Japan. And even if they did, how does this prove some foreign body accepted bribes and voted for Japan?

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I agree with and quite enjoy all the comments here: there certainly seems to have been rather a lot of “non-conformatative” behavior.

Indeed one wonders if O MO TE NA SHI (I always hated the way she over enunciated) means “There’s a bag of cash under your seat.”.

But I have to ask, how is this under the jurisdiction of France?

“We have a 99% conviction rate. That shows how thorough we are in investigating crimes.“

Selective prosecutions and forced confessions. They let real criminals go unless they are sure they can gain a conviction.

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No, it means they didn't do everything the French requested, which would be illegal in Japan. And even if they did, how does this prove some foreign body accepted bribes and voted for Japan?

No, it isn’t illegal in Japan to question people.

The records may have information indicating that a foreign body accepted bribes and voted for Japan.

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@Kazuaki

France: We recognize what they did may just be legal in their land, but we are going to ignore that and call their investigation flawed.

Is there something missing?

Well, fanatics will see no wrong.

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Is there something missing?

Yes, the evidence requested by France.

Even if what occurred wasn’t illegal in Japan, there is no harm in the Japanese conducting an actual investigation to clear the shadow over how it “won” the Olympic bid.

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"Under French law, bribery of private citizens and public officials is illegal whereas in Japan such a transaction is only considered bribery if a public official is a recipient." What about when a private citizen is entrusted to work on behalf of the goverment or taxpayers - or is that exactly why the Japanese law is silent on that point?

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OMG, do you think Japan is the only country that has bribed the IOC??? This is a given time after time, the IOC is such a corrupt organization and with this pandemic it is really bringing to surface of how corrupt this organization is. The only good thing this pandemic has done is cut off the want for future Olympics and the bidding wars, because of the IOC's greediness in the extreme green color and it really will cost them in the long run. The IOC refusal to cancel the Olympics is all about money, if they do so, they will have to return money to Japan a big "NO THANKS" and they will loose all their tv advertising money. Too be honest, I do not see this virus going away in the near future and I am sure that many countries have pulled away for the near future Olympic bids and I see this happening for years to come.

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OMG, do you think Japan is the only country that has bribed the IOC??? 

No, but that in no way excuses Japan’s bribery.

The IOC refusal to cancel the Olympics is all about money,

What a shocker!

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We have a 99% conviction rate. That shows how thorough we are in investigating 

Japanese Justice Ministers are usually selected from prosecutors. Judges are appointed for a two year tenure by the Justice Ministry. This makes a judge the prosecutors bitch.

This has been been known for quite some time and was first highlighted in the book "The Enigma of Japanese Power".

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Getting the Olympics to come to town is kind of like building skyscrapers in NYC in the '80s... you wouldn't have gotten a dollop of cement poured without one of the 5 Cosa Nostra families getting involved... and in this case, I don't think the flame shows up until the individuals making up the IOC are properly 'bolstered' with some 'incentives'.

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Under French law, bribery of private citizens and public officials is illegal whereas in Japan such a transaction is only considered bribery if a public official is a recipient.

So it is OK to bribe private citizens, there you have it.

Hence the good sales of large brown envelopes in Japan, the chosen delivery method.

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