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Goodlucktoyou
Extradite to France is the solution.
zatoizugoodo
That's the Japanese system for you. Rife with corruption and dubious connections. Then again, sigh..., what country's government isn't?
Zoroto
Absolutely shocking news!
Cricky
You don't say!
dbsaiya
Japan's probe was limited and had many flaws. Par for the course, same as the sun rising tomorrow....next.
Yubaru
Geez it's ok for a Japanese to destroy the public trust!
dagon
This story with Takeda.Mori, Bach and Dentsu shows how the privledged view almost any public operation as an opportunity to loot the treasury along with their cronies and affiliated companies.
Speed
These Olympic Games are wallowing in poison and deceit. From the outset to it's present pathetic state. Yahwei is punishing Japan for its lies. We're about to lose billions.
sakurasuki
That's all still they are free people charged with no crime.
JJ Jetplane
Its only natural. You can't leave the beneficiary to investigate its own crime where it gained from it. That is a huge conflict of interest. Furthermore, even if an outside investigators are used, it would be hard-pressed to gain proper ground within this system. Especially when roads lead to the government.
Chabbawanga
As the French would say "Quelle suprise"
P. Smith
*In the eyes of the French investigators, their Japanese counterparts' probe was unsatisfactory, with the preliminary judge quoted by the sources as telling Takeda that Japanese prosecutors "failed to question all the witnesses or seize documents" that had been requested from the French side.*
Where are all the people to tell us how the Japanese “justice” system isn’t flawed?
Alan Harrison
Japan has lost something that no amount of money in the world can buy. Integrity.
Can Japan be trusted anymore?
Mocheake
We have a 99% conviction rate. That shows how thorough we are in investigating crimes.
Derek Grebe
I'm shocked, shocked, to learn that corruption, vote-rigging, and under-the-counter deals were part of the Japan Olympic Bid.
I haven't been this devastated since I found out that Pope Francis is a secret Catholic.
Numan
Logic has not always been Japan's strong suit. Japan's relies a lot on loyalty, faith, and conformity. Quite often they are all the same thing!
Dangerousjisan
As above; Japan relies on loyalty, faith, conformity and CORRUPTION.
P. Smith
Incorrect. Japan has a 99% conviction rate because it relies on forced confessions garnered through relatively indefinite detention and defense lawyers not being allowed to be present during interrogations and interrogations not being routinely recorded.
cracaphat
Well, karma is biting Japan big time with the postponement and probable cancellation due to the pandemic.Turkey who were the favorites to get, must be thanking their God every day.
wtfjapan
We have a 99% conviction rate. That shows how thorough we are in investigating crimes.
oh dear another gullible one, Japan doesn't count cases that are thrown out and not presented to court. they only count the cases they know they can win and present in court, when youve got judges that are appointed by the ministry of justice that are basically run by the prosecutors, yeah not much conflicting interests hey.
Mickelicious
Black Tidings: discomfort, old boy.
therougou
Not going to say it isn't flawed, but this case really has nothing to do with it. This is an international matter, and if they couldn't prove internationally that the bid was bribed, they are really just grasping at straws.
Ascissor
Although the Olympics will probably be cancelled, Papa Diack won the gold.
P. Smith
The article clearly states that the investigation into bribery by Japanese prosecutors was deemed flawed by the body investigating the corruption. This very much means this case has a lot to do with the flaws of the Japanese “justice” system.
smithinjapan
“Under French law, bribery of private citizens and public officials is illegal whereas in Japan such a transaction is always considered mandatory.”
Fixed it!
in any case, no surprise... a nation investigating its own scandal being flawed.
InspectorGadget
Wow. Who would have thought . . . .
When Japanese officials 'investigate' their own, the process isn't that thorough.
Are we surprised? No.
Kazuaki Shimazaki
France: Please, inconvenience anyone at our request.
France: We recognize what they did may just be legal in their land, but we are going to ignore that and call their investigation flawed.
Is there something missing?
Paul
There is no public trust, only complete morons trust what officials say...
That is because without bribery nothing will happen...
Robert Cikki
Every big project in Japan was/is backed by bribes. Public knows but doesn't care, so they don't even hide it. The bigger construction project, the bigger the bribery is.
Mr Kipling
I don't think the word "alleged" is needed in the heading.
The bribery seems to be pretty obvious and nothing new for Olympic bidding.
marcelito
Takeda, the great-grandson of Emperor Meiji
These few words explaining his pedigree are a crystal clear indication that nothing would ever by allowed to eventuate as a result of the " probe " by J-authorities. No wrogdoing is the only possible outcome.
therougou
No, it means they didn't do everything the French requested, which would be illegal in Japan. And even if they did, how does this prove some foreign body accepted bribes and voted for Japan?
GdTokyo
I agree with and quite enjoy all the comments here: there certainly seems to have been rather a lot of “non-conformatative” behavior.
Indeed one wonders if O MO TE NA SHI (I always hated the way she over enunciated) means “There’s a bag of cash under your seat.”.
But I have to ask, how is this under the jurisdiction of France?
“We have a 99% conviction rate. That shows how thorough we are in investigating crimes.“
Selective prosecutions and forced confessions. They let real criminals go unless they are sure they can gain a conviction.
P. Smith
No, it isn’t illegal in Japan to question people.
The records may have information indicating that a foreign body accepted bribes and voted for Japan.
justasking
@Kazuaki
Well, fanatics will see no wrong.
P. Smith
Yes, the evidence requested by France.
Even if what occurred wasn’t illegal in Japan, there is no harm in the Japanese conducting an actual investigation to clear the shadow over how it “won” the Olympic bid.
expat
"Under French law, bribery of private citizens and public officials is illegal whereas in Japan such a transaction is only considered bribery if a public official is a recipient." What about when a private citizen is entrusted to work on behalf of the goverment or taxpayers - or is that exactly why the Japanese law is silent on that point?
Ashley Shiba
OMG, do you think Japan is the only country that has bribed the IOC??? This is a given time after time, the IOC is such a corrupt organization and with this pandemic it is really bringing to surface of how corrupt this organization is. The only good thing this pandemic has done is cut off the want for future Olympics and the bidding wars, because of the IOC's greediness in the extreme green color and it really will cost them in the long run. The IOC refusal to cancel the Olympics is all about money, if they do so, they will have to return money to Japan a big "NO THANKS" and they will loose all their tv advertising money. Too be honest, I do not see this virus going away in the near future and I am sure that many countries have pulled away for the near future Olympic bids and I see this happening for years to come.
P. Smith
No, but that in no way excuses Japan’s bribery.
What a shocker!
Alan Harrison
We have a 99% conviction rate. That shows how thorough we are in investigating
Japanese Justice Ministers are usually selected from prosecutors. Judges are appointed for a two year tenure by the Justice Ministry. This makes a judge the prosecutors bitch.
This has been been known for quite some time and was first highlighted in the book "The Enigma of Japanese Power".
CaptDingleheimer
Getting the Olympics to come to town is kind of like building skyscrapers in NYC in the '80s... you wouldn't have gotten a dollop of cement poured without one of the 5 Cosa Nostra families getting involved... and in this case, I don't think the flame shows up until the individuals making up the IOC are properly 'bolstered' with some 'incentives'.
wanderlust
Under French law, bribery of private citizens and public officials is illegal whereas in Japan such a transaction is only considered bribery if a public official is a recipient.
So it is OK to bribe private citizens, there you have it.
Hence the good sales of large brown envelopes in Japan, the chosen delivery method.