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Kabuki actor Ennosuke arrested for alleged role in mother's suicide

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As DJ Khaled said:

"Another one"

5 ( +11 / -6 )

What a circus.

Why the emergency services in this place are so paranoid about hiding the area/subject in question?

2 people to carry a wounded person in a strecher and 10 others to cover it while walking all the way to the ambulance.

2 ( +10 / -8 )

This must come as a huge surprise to absolutely nobody.

1 ( +8 / -7 )

This is just beyond weird.

"It is true I helped my parents commit suicide. I had also intended to follow them by killing myself."

But why?

Why was life so grim and desperate to want to help off your parents and then yourself?

I have to know.

1 ( +7 / -6 )

Societies will likely progress to welcome “planned departures” for members over a certain age and in certain health conditions. It’s so sad to see people being criminally prosecuted in today’s society for exercising “My Body, My Choice” freedoms.

5 ( +10 / -5 )

Depending on health, the parents might have expressed a will to stop living

Npt all elderly people want to end up in a hospital bed with a feeding tube…

8 ( +12 / -4 )

Ennosuke and his parents thought that the younger Kabuki actor would be arrested, indicted and possibly convicted of sexual abuse charges. As a prestigious Kabuki family, they knew they would never have been able to stand the humiliation and disgrace. So they decided to escape from it all by ending their own lives.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

The incident occurred on the same day as a weekly magazine published a report detailing Ennosuke's alleged involvement in bullying and sexual abuse of people, including actors and staff in his theater collective.

Japan's extensive history of turning to suicide when faced with the shame of uncovered wrongdoings would have to be one of the most detestable parts of its culture.

Running away from responsibility -permanently - doesn't absolve someone of something, it simply makes them a coward.

1 ( +11 / -10 )

Why was life so grim and desperate to want to help off your parents and then yourself?

I have to know.

Then I recommend reading the whole article for clues.

2 ( +8 / -6 )

Japan's extensive history of turning to suicide when faced with the shame of uncovered wrongdoings would have to be one of the most detestable parts of its culture.

Running away from responsibility -permanently - doesn't absolve someone of something, it simply makes them a coward.

While I don't see suicide as ever a positive, I don't agree with you either and see this as applying Western views of morality to another culture.

Running away would be literally that - hopping on an aircraft and disappearing to Thailand or somewhere. Japanese tend to see suicide as an admittence of guilt and atonement and the ultimate sacrifice. After all, what responsibility did his mother have? None, as far as I can see, so what responsibility was she cowardly running away from?

While I personally see it as a waste of life, I don't see her actions as cowardly. I wouldn't be brave enough to take my own life.

3 ( +11 / -8 )

until he was taken to the police station Tuesday morning for voluntary questioning, where he was subsequently arrested.

There was nothing "voluntary" about his questioning. He was surrounded by police and forcefully interrogated.

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Meiyouwenti said:

"nnosuke and his parents thought that the younger Kabuki actor would be arrested, indicted and possibly convicted of sexual abuse charges. As a prestigious Kabuki family, they knew they would never have been able to stand the humiliation and disgrace. So they decided to escape from it all by ending their own lives."

> > Only Jn's would know about that.

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2 ( +2 / -0 )

"Magazine published a report detailing Ennosuke's alleged involvement in bullying and sexual abuse of people,"

Be careful to objectively criticize, gets high thumb downs here. Remember to always save their face, or get censored here.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

Why? Why can a son not help his mother to take her life if she is in great pain or suffering a terrible disease ? And why can he not take his own life? Who are we to judge that what he is doing is wrong?

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While I don't see suicide as ever a positive, I don't agree with you either and see this as applying Western views of morality to another culture.

Yes, because that is exactly what needs to be done in this case. Western culture isn't perfect, but it's the best we have in terms of individual freedom, economic prosperity, intellectual advancement, technological progress, the arts and medicine. Most importantly, Western views of morality have provided the blueprint for the ascent of humanity. It's why accepting responsibility for our wrongdoings is widely praised and turning to suicide in order to escape from it is condemned as cowardly.

Simply put, some cultures are better than others.

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Most importantly, Western views of morality have provided the blueprint for the ascent of humanity. It's why accepting responsibility for our wrongdoings is widely praised and turning to suicide in order to escape from it is condemned as cowardly.

To summarise your argument:

Western culture is best. Suicide isn't acceptable in western societies. Therefore, Japan is wrong by not following western cultural norms.

Sorry, the logical fallacy in this argument is too apparent as well as being culturally arrogant. It goes back to notions that suicide is a "sin", which is why you couldn't coherently provide an argument against other than the logically fallacious argument I summarised above.

7 ( +9 / -2 )

 After all, what responsibility did his mother have? None, as far as I can see, so what responsibility was she cowardly running away from?

The fact that they had a family meeting and agreed their kid should kill himself tells me all I need to know about these "parents".

3 ( +4 / -1 )

The fact that they had a family meeting and agreed their kid should kill himself tells me all I need to know about these "parents".x

If you apply your cultural values to them, no doubt that is the conclusion you came to. But I think you are unable to view the scenario except through the cultural lenses that you brought to Japan, and therefore judge Japan and its people through the mentality of a foreign culture.

I admit that I do this too, but at least I recognise that I do it and sometimes need to leave my so-called "judeo-christian" sense of morality behind when encountering new situations in a foreign culture.

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Popular Japanese kabuki actor Ichikawa Ennosuke, 47

Any article that trumps up any Japanese celebrity like this and give a detailed history of their career usually gets no real jail time by getting a suspended sentence because of their fame! Japan and its laws!2

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Such a wild story. given Japans extensive history of giving slaps on the wrist for bullying/sexual harassment… not to mention being from a family of celebrities… basically was guaranteed to get off with nothing but a tainted but not ended career.

as absurd as that is we all know that’s what would have happened.

makes me wonder if this was in the making for a while and the family just was like… it’s time.

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There should be legal assisted suicide for people over 70. What is the point of keeping people breathing when they lose quality of life. If some people want to suicide after getting old, they may have valid reasons. Why shouldn’t government provide help them to their final destination with the least pain.

what is so good about attempting to keep everyone breathing air and suffer until they get 90+ years of age?

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

They had a huge crib too.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

This was a shame killing not assisted death. His cousin(?) was also involved in the alleged rape of a girl and was kicked off the TV.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

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