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Police considering undercover work to fight 'dark job' crime wave

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“considering introducing undercover investigations” Is this a joke? They are considering. Keystone Cops were more switched on!

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Japan's National Police Agency is considering introducing undercover investigations from next year into "dark part-time work" such as thefts and fraud performed by people often recruited online, sources close to the matter said Friday.

NPA and LDP: All of these young people taking up illegal dangerous work couldn't be because it is almost impossible to find work that provides a decent, sustainable living wage , could it?

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All of these young people taking up illegal dangerous work couldn't be because it is almost impossible to find work that provides a decent, sustainable living wage , could it?

In the past, that was the rationale for yakuza recruitment.

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For internet service providers, the committee proposed a system in which illegal or harmful online posts are mandatorily deleted.

This could end up being a Trojan horse to allow more internet censorship. It will be interesting to see how vague the wording is of any proposed legislation.

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It would be the first time Japanese police have employed an undercover operation in their investigation of crimes other than drug trafficking, according to the sources.

Quite unbelievable.

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It's very kind of them to broadcast their plans well in advance.

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Good, fight the yami baito and send them to jail..

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DO SOMETHING, I mean anything, and why NEXT YEAR???

The amount of fraud and scam Phone calls, Email, CM on YouTube, Instagram, WhatsApp, and Facebook that just keeps on coming is almost incomprehensible, Fake mail from Instagram, Western Union, Moneygram, Amazon, Ebay, DoCoMo, NTT Telcom, in both English and Japanese. The tricks scammers use trying to get your data by claiming that your account needs to be verified, you missing data, or your account been hacked, or a reward is waiting collection, or your Phone been hacked, and on, and on and on.

They are mainly after your Credit cards data, and your bank account details. it is written so well it is becoming harder and harder to differentiate between Legit and Scam.

Even direct 0120, 800, 050, and 057, phone calls are coming from scammers now.

Japan is becoming the Prime Target of the scum of the earth due to several factors but mainly little or no Public awareness of the scale the problem and I blame law enforcement for not aggressively raising the general public awareness, and going after the main sources of these scammers here and abroad.

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Unless somehow needing the direct approval of the voting public, by announcing this plan it would only let the criminals prepare that much more to mitigate this in the future (while it also tells them that for the time being now, no such undercover cops are to be worried about).

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really?

let’s announce we’re starting an undercover operation.

:)

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@BigP

“considering introducing undercover investigations” Is this a joke?

In Japan many cases being closed many of them by using coercion technique, the person that being punished not necessarily that real criminal. So solving the actual crime with undercover job, is really new in Japan.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/10/13/japan/crime-legal/japan-retrial-acquittal-confessions-guilt/

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This is the kind of story where I go right to the comments.

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Police considering undercover work

That's definitely something you want to advertise.

Any more "secret" plans to be announced to the public?

Maybe they can post rosters of their undercover officers as well?

It would be the first time Japanese police have employed an undercover operation in their investigation of crimes

No kidding?

It may also be their LAST time doing it.

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introducing undercover investigations from next year

why so soon?

why not just wait till 2030 like the "1500 yen minimum wage" dream?

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Police considering undercover work

I am surprised that it took them so long to get that obvious idea, as it is the only way to get to the yamibaito organizers. So far they have only been catching the low-level, low-IQ thungs who the the orders from somewhere via encrypted app.

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For internet service providers, the committee proposed a system in which illegal or harmful online posts are mandatorily deleted. It says foreign companies must set up a local office to make smooth information sharing possible.

This part of the story troubles me greatly. Illegal posts are deleted already. But once they escalate to an obscure "harmful", they are going down the censorship path of the UK. We do not need 1984, we do not need a Ministry of Truth.

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BE WARE,

Of phone calls or even Direct Post Office Mail claiming they can reduce your Electricity Bill by 20 to 25% by signing up with them, they will collect your bank information claiming they will transfer your saved amount, and the will actually transfer or send you some cash back coupons till you relax.

Then one day your account will be cleaned, and you wont know what hit you until you visit your bank.

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The police haven't even been able to do a thing about the ore ore scams of the decades past. Oh, the scammers became more sophisticated and numerous? Quelle surprise.

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Those who can, do. Those who can’t, consider.

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Waiting for the announcement of when is and the details of implementation

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impossible to find work that provides a decent, sustainable living wage ,

Those who sign up for such jobs are offered as much as 200,000 yen for a few hours' work.

DO SOMETHING, I mean anything,

As of December 6, police have arrested 56 individuals suspected of involvement in 闇バイト。

https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/20241206-OYT1T50032/

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"Police considering undercover work to fight 'dark job' crime wave."

It's about time, please sign me up!!

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considering introducing undercover investigations” Is this a joke? They are considering. Keystone Cops were more switched on!

Japanese law generally prohibits such operations, so launching such investigations is not a simple matter. Japanese police are an easy target for the uninformed.

https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOUA04B010U4A201C2000000/

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police come from “sports universities,” just one step above fishing and agricultural universities. agriculture is far more sophisticated and difficult than most people think.

in the u.s., most police officers made mostly d’s and some c’s in high school.

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police come from “sports universities,” just one step above fishing and agricultural universities. agriculture is far more sophisticated and difficult than most people think.

Relevancy?

Not that easy to become a police officer in Japan.

https://www.o-hara.jp/course/keisatsukan_shobokan/kei_column_1

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Quite unbelievable.

I meant to say quite unbelievable that the police are only considering doing something that is regular, everyday policing in most countries. Obviously the best way to catch those offering "yamibaito" jobs is to respond to the adds. for these jobs.

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Is that not something they should just do, and not announce they are going to do so as not to alert the suspicions of the criminal gangs?

You would have thought so, anyway.

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considering

Almost laughable but sadly it’s so baffling the amount of incompetence the police force is. It’s sadly shocking.

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Fix the moribund Japanese economy with adequate investment to stop these crimes first!

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Good idea, Jonnie Depp style, and make the business of crime riskier!

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I meant to say quite unbelievable that the police are only considering doing something that is regular, everyday policing in most countries

Powers that the police never abuse.

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The police haven't even been able to do a thing about the ore ore scams of the decades past.

As a matter of record, arrests for so-called oreore sagi averaged 2500 annually from Heisei 26 through last year.

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Undercover work can be done by technical means, many nations now have effective departments advising on scams on bringing the big fish to task inc drugs and contraband. haha here we go censorship, big brother blah. blah. v little old ladies protected from fraud. Heh Zapoff, l please read Eric Arthur Blair's works, especially the last few pages where the light is always finally revealed. A renowned factual journalist, self described as a social democrat! Democracy and social justice comes with a price?

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Fix the moribund Japanese economy with adequate investment to stop these crimes first!

Clearly you haven't been paying attention. The kind of money offered for a day's yamibaito 'work' exceeds what even the most naive labor organizer would hope for.

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I meant to say quite unbelievable that the police are only considering doing something that is regular, everyday policing in most countries.

Japanese criminal law generally prohibits undercover operations. See above post, link. Or not, as most posters appear too lazy to inform themselves.

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The cyber crimes unit should have been doing this ever since they got the Luffy crime group.

The LDP's committee also proposed that messaging apps require account owners to provide official identification, and companies that do not comply should be prohibited from operating.

This is impossible.

For internet service providers, the committee proposed a system in which illegal or harmful online posts are mandatorily deleted

This is censorship.

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