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Lebanon receives Interpol wanted notice for Ghosn

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By BASSEM MROUE

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It seems like this "crime" can be put to rest if the diplomats take over and the prosecutors exit.

Let him pay some fines and let's move on.

-4 ( +14 / -18 )

Just won’t let it go.

2 ( +22 / -20 )

Lebanon will eventually give in to diplomatic pressure from France. Ghosn's time is running down.

-3 ( +26 / -29 )

Ghosen in the shell

11 ( +19 / -8 )

Useless since Ghosn has already issued him self a Yellow Notice, LOL

0 ( +5 / -5 )

So Ghosn is safe. Good.

-11 ( +12 / -23 )

He is by some of the Ghosn fanbois on this site.

this is the result of a draconian justice system that put forced confessions over actual collecting evidence,

how many Japanese have been indicted over this fiasco!? Japan has lost and has been exposed, just got to suck it up and move on

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I hope they get Ghosn.

I realize that this comment is going to be dislike-bombed by the Ghosn supporters who only see this as a "Japan bad, foreigner good" issue, but evidence strongly indicates Ghosn is in fact guilty of everything he has been accused of in Japan and France.

If you think he is not guilty, then you also admit that he is an idiot for being so oblivious of Japanese law, and that he is incompetent of having held such high-ranking corporate positions in Japan and elsewhere. Even lowly peons would be more aware of the legal reporting standards in Japan that he blatantly ignored.

No, it is not fair that other officials at Nissan and other Japanese corporations constantly get away with what he did, and Nissan pretty much sacrificed him for their own agenda, but Ghosn is as guilty as they come received more illegal remuneration than legal.

His vehement denial and strong desire to flee are a strong psychological indication of his guilt.

-3 ( +22 / -25 )

Most likely not going to result in an extradition but it would be a much better outcome in general, the French justice system is not perfect, but it is much better than the Japanese one, so something approaching a real investigation and fair trial would be expected.

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this is the result of a draconian justice system that put forced confessions over actual collecting evidence,

how many Japanese have been indicted over this fiasco!? Japan has lost and has been exposed, just got to suck it up and move on

Exactly!

-16 ( +8 / -24 )

Greg Kelly will soon demonstrate his innocence and, by extension, Ghosn's innocence.

More evidence is popping up, this is far from over.

I wanna see all the prosecutors with red notices on them.

-18 ( +4 / -22 )

France and Japan should take the carrot and stick approach. Promise $Billions to be given to Lebanese politicians when they hand over Ghosn. If they won't? punish Lebanon by withdrawing all future aid.

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He has protection of his mates in the Lebanese parliament. Lebanon economy is collapsing and these “officials” will need a lot of brown envelopes. If he can’t pay, he will face justice in France, the Nederland and finally Japan.

12 ( +18 / -6 )

Carlos Ghosn is protected by the militarized Hezbollah and President Aoun. Ghosn has been doing a bunch of money laundering for them before getting caught in the France-Japan corporate war.

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Lebanon will not extradite Ghosn for sure.

-3 ( +10 / -13 )

Put out a large enough bounty and he'll be found outside the borders in a box =)

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Funny observation here is that those who insist that Ghosn is a crystal clear businessman are 100% sure that he was able to corrupt Lebanese government to protect him from Interpol.

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Why aren't the exec's at Nissan being prosecuted ? Or is it just that they're all Japanese, and this is a Witch hunt for the Foreigner Ghosn ?

You hit the nail on the head

-9 ( +10 / -19 )

Why aren't the exec's at Nissan being prosecuted ? Or is it just that they're all Japanese, and this is a Witch hunt for the Foreigner Ghosn ?

They're witnesses lol

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 disgraced auto tycoon 

Really?

If ever I had the chance to meet Mr Ghosn, I would shake his hand in an instant!

Mroue should not be so opinionated in his writing…

-13 ( +4 / -17 )

Why is he disgraced? I strongly believe he is not he knew very well that his chance to be free from Japanese Court system is ZERO, 99% he would been convicted I seen the court system in Japan is 99% conviction is funny how the world is in Japan I did not see the same thing done to upper management of TEPCO that led to disaster nightmare because of their negligence and greed did to the good people of Japan, Now they want Interpol to take him to Japan yeah good luck with that.

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Why aren't the exec's at Nissan being prosecuted ? Or is it just that they're all Japanese, and this is a Witch hunt for the Foreigner Ghosn ?

Which Japanese exec's do you think are involved in misappropriation of corporate fund of a French Company through Oman Route? That is what French prosecutors are looking at.

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Ghosn literally took Nissan out a what was a massively failing auto company and restored their brand. He brought the company back with a real determination that few posses and never got a fair shake after he saw the future of the brand long term. Japanese execs that didn’t want the brand to become a primarily foreign owned enterprise after internal talks foreshadowed a move to Renault as the primary shareholder became a plot to overthrow the revitalized car company and keep its blood Japanese.

If the company became a over 50% foreign owned one, Japanese business and national perspective would see it as a failure and sign of the times, that Japan is for sale and foreigners will inevitably take over Japan. It would signify another nail in the coffin to Japan’s growing socio-economic problems and cultural shift.

The implications of the brand not being Japanese anymore would tear at the fabric of Japan’s national identity. That’s why this circus continues and Japan will not stop to try and prosecute him.

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I originally supported him but he showed his true colors. He was being tried for a blue collar crim. He probably would have been let off anyway or a suspended sentence at most. He was a coward, unlike Kelly who stayed the course. He ruined his career and reputation and is essentially imprisoned in Lebanon for life.

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A Red Notice is not an arrest warrant and does not require Lebanon to arrest Ghosn.

I hope they are just doing like Japan usually does and pay lip service but not actually do anything.

-16 ( +3 / -19 )

For Mr. Ghosn to clear his name, which I believe he will, maybe he could voluntarily go to France where he will get a fair trail. (Unlike Japan). Any request from Japan for his return to Japan should be thrown into the wastepaper basket by France. (Or any country for that matter).

Until Japan dramatically reform it's half baked legal system, useless police, obscene prosecutors and imbecile judges and disgusting detention centres, any request for an arrest from Japan, anywhere in the world, should just be thrown in the bin. Japan also needs a good lecture regarding human rights and rule of law, such as bail, lawyers present during questioning etc. etc.

Incidentally, has Japan paid Mr. Ghosn his compensation yet for unlawful detention.

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If ever I had the chance to meet Mr Ghosn, I would shake his hand in an instant!

same! BTW, this is not the first time J INC along with J gov have tried to screw a foreign CEO over. Check out  Michael Woodford and the Olympus Scandal.

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The Carlos Ghosn Saga: What we can learn about Japan’s legal system and corporate governance - YouTube

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Why aren't the exec's at Nissan being prosecuted ? Or is it just that they're all Japanese, and this is a Witch hunt for the Foreigner Ghosn ?

Ping pong!! Tell him what he's won, Bob!

-14 ( +2 / -16 )

Japan knows full well that it's legal system is nothing but third rate. That is why Japans disgusting prosecutors / police instigated a Pearl Harbour tactic to arrest him. They knew full well that the arrest, indictment, of Mr. Ghosn and the attempt to produce him in front of a pathetic kangaroo court in front of imbecile rubber stamping so-called judges, was just pathetic. But on and on the prosecutors went, trying to save their truculent little faces. Shame on Japan.

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It's always amusing with these stories to read the Japanese Prosecutors fanboys on here foaming at the mouth because an innocent man managed to escape from their totally corrupt clutches. What I want to see happen now is that Mr Ghosn sues the Japanese Prosecutors for 2 years of illegal imprisonment based on nothing at all. Ans all the nissan execs locked up for corruption.

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He doesn't seem to be a prosecutor fanboi

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It's always amusing with these stories to read the Japanese Prosecutors fanboys on here foaming at the mouth because an innocent man managed to escape from their totally corrupt clutches.

Yep. It's always amusing with these stories to read Ghosn fanboys on here foaming at the mouth because

even French justice , your only hope, issued an international arrest warrant for him.

>

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

And It is always amusing to see so many here criticizing Japanese Justice as if they have a sort of guilty conscience or something to hide...

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ennyGToday 07:09 pm JST

And It is always amusing to see so many here criticizing Japanese Justice as if they have a sort of guilty conscience or something to hide...

Makes no sense.

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France and Japan should take the carrot and stick approach. Promise $Billions to be given to Lebanese politicians when they hand over Ghosn. If they won't? punish Lebanon by withdrawing all future aid.

Do you honestly think that Lebanon needs Japans aid (Japans loans)?

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And It is always amusing to see so many here criticizing Japanese Justice as if they have a sort of guilty conscience or something to hide...

Maybe they are well educated well principled people.

-2 ( +5 / -7 )

Maybe they are well educated well principled people.

Well principled... lol, by what? Innocent until proven guilty regardless you escape the process not to be proven.

Right?

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@kennyG

You're massively biased.

A prosecutor - kenji - will never admit that his work neglects people's rights and most international treaties.

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Maybe they are well educated well principled people.

Well principled... lol, by what? Innocent until proven guilty regardless you escape the process not to be proven.

Right?

Japans Human Rights abuses / treatment of prisoner's, Japans undeveloped legal system, poor scared judges etc. etc. has actually been known for some years now. An interesting book "The Enigma of Japanese Power" (Karel Van Wolferen) published in the late 1980's goes into great depth into all the criticism of Japans legal system. Nothing seems to have changed. Incidentally Karel Van Wolferen is a highly acclaimed journalist.

So I would say that the answer to your question (right?) Is "wrong".

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A prosecutor - kenji - will never admit that his work neglects people's rights and most international treaties.

What sort of treaties do you mean Japan's justice is ignoring. Thanks in advance.

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Japans Human Rights abuses / treatment of prisoner's, Japans undeveloped legal system, poor scared judges etc. etc. has actually been known for some years now. An interesting book "The Enigma of Japanese Power" (Karel Van Wolferen) published in the late 1980's goes into great depth into all the criticism of Japans legal system. Nothing seems to have changed. Incidentally Karel Van Wolferen is a highly acclaimed journalist.

Well acclaimed journalist ? So a journalist rules justice in your ideal world. There're so many journalists who're

only interested in blaming on Japan for whatever reason. So the same question, is there any treaties which Japan' had signed on but its justice is still ignoring?

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

Just because a country's justice takes different approach from yours, that neither does nor should make a guilty innocent. The victims of every crimes have equally human rights to be entitled including punish criminals

one way or the other

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

*Well acclaimed journalist ? So a journalist rules justice in your ideal world. *

A journalist reports the facts, and rules nobody. Excellent, factual book, with nothing to hide. (With the exception of Japans Ministries of whom were very critical at the time).

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

What sort of treaties do you mean Japan's justice is ignoring. Thanks in advance.

UN Human Rights Committee (CCPR), UN Committee against Torture (CAT), rules for treatment of prisoners (SMR), International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).

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A journalist reports the facts, and rules nobody. Excellent, factual book, with nothing to hide. (With the exception of Japans Ministries of whom were very critical at the time).

Only if they report the facts only, ...in reality, they add too much flavor of their political/whatever faith, pick only the facts with such flavor ignoring any other facts opposing to such faith, which is why they are called 4th power they acquire without going through any election, public license exams, or any public filtering processes.

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I realize that this comment is going to be dislike-bombed by the Ghosn supporters who only see this as a "Japan bad, foreigner good" issue, but evidence strongly indicates Ghosn is in fact guilty of everything he has been accused of in Japan and France.

I never made any claims about Ghosn's status, but observed that it would be impossible to assess either way whether he was guilty or innocent because he would be found guilty - his guilt was predetermined. It was essentially a political case where the interests of the state and Nissan's executives aligned.

The case also highlighted the backwards nature of the Japanese justice system. Most people would expect Japan to have a mature justice system, whereas it is still stuck in the 19th century.

Ghosn should go to France and face trial on the condition that he is not subsequently extradited to Japan.

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UN Human Rights Committee (CCPR), UN Committee against Torture (CAT), rules for treatment of prisoners (SMR), International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).

Skip SMR if you wanna focus on Ghosn's case as he was not a prisoner YET.

Skip CAT as he was never tortured. If you don't agree, let me know how CAT define torture.

So for remaining two, How exactly you think Japan justice violated. Thanks again in advance.

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An interesting book "The Enigma of Japanese Power" (Karel Van Wolferen) published in the late 1980's goes into great depth into all the criticism of Japans legal system. Nothing seems to have changed. Incidentally Karel Van Wolferen is a highly acclaimed journalist.

I read this book over 20 years ago and while critical of Japan, it is the best book by far I've ever read on how Japan works. It covers everything from education to advertising and the intimate relationship between business and government.

Throughout the whole Ghosn saga I've seen it through the perspective lent to me by this book.

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Only if they report the facts only, ...in reality, they add too much flavor of their political/whatever faith, pick only the facts with such flavor ignoring any other facts opposing to such faith, which is why they are called 4th power they acquire without going through any election, public license exams, or any public filtering processes.

Fourth rate journalists, maybe. (And I agree, there are many of those around). Karel Van Wolferen never added flavour and was very unbiased. Nothing to hide. That's what made him a first rate journalist.

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I read this book over 20 years ago and while critical of Japan, it is the best book by far I've ever read on how Japan works. It covers everything from education to advertising and the intimate relationship between business and government.

Throughout the whole Ghosn saga I've seen it through the perspective lent to me by this book.

This book was years ahead of it's time. I would strongly recommend this book to foreigners, foreign residents in Japan, newbees in Japan and Japanaphiles.

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

UN Human Rights Committee (CCPR), UN Committee against Torture (CAT), rules for treatment of prisoners (SMR), International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).

Every one of these organisations are reporting that Japanese Justice System is breaking routinely the signed agreement.

Cannot really skip or ignore anyone of them, just because.

If you keep ignoring the international community, Japan might have an unpleasant surprise.

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

Every one of these organisations are reporting that Japanese Justice System is breaking routinely the signed agreement.

Are you willing to answer to my question or care to provide the link to such reports? . Thanks once again

in advance.

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If the company became a over 50% foreign owned one, Japanese business and national perspective would see it as a failure and sign of the times, that Japan is for sale and foreigners will inevitably take over Japan. It would signify another nail in the coffin to Japan’s growing socio-economic problems and cultural shift.

For some reason, Japan still allows Chinese investors to take over Japan's real estate assets. Foreigners have already taken over Japan but the fiasco with Renault is a larger scheme in the conflict between France and USA.

The US doesn't like the fact that France has been a thorn to them in the EU for decades. Charles De Gaulle started the whole tradition of hating the US within the European elite's circle. Ruining Renault's chance of taking over Nissan and Mitsubishi Motors is the best trick in the book for the US to show France who is the real boss!

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Different approach? Victims rights equally? Japan??? Oh yea, I get it now, being sarcastic arent ya. Punish criminals like, you mean the Looters, do "whatever they like", paradise, Pinstripe pant-leg parade, tax stashing, buyin, selling votes for my friends and family, censorship rules… type victims? That "one way" or the other way around?

Jus because a cuountry's justice takes different approach from yours— The victims of every crimes have equally human rights to be entitled including punish criminals

one way or the other

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Different approach? Victims rights equally? Japan??? Oh yea, I get it now, being sarcastic arent ya. Punish criminals like, you mean the Looters, do "whatever they like", paradise, Pinstripe pant-leg parade, tax stashing, buyin, selling votes for my friends and family, censorship rules… type victims? That "one way" or the other way around?

An absolute shambles

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Don't be a victim

An absolute shambles

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The whole world wants Ghosn, but somehow this is all Nissan's fault.

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