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Macron expected to raise Carlos Ghosn case with Abe at G7

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Please don't take orders from this French goblin who thinks he is Europese new commander in chief.

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Regardless of the circumstances of Mr Ghosn's bail conditions surely any representation by Mr Macron could be seen as interfering in Japan's Internal affairs.

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Quite true, Japan’s conditions for the accused are harsher than other G7 nations, and is set up for the accuser not the accused.

But to think that a request will change things here is ridiculous.

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Some type of G7 agreement on basic conditions and time frames for questioning and indicting of crime suspects might be a worthwhile move. Would also put pressure on China and Russia.

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Regardless of the circumstances of Mr Ghosn's bail conditions surely any representation by Mr Macron could be seen as interfering in Japan's Internal affairs.

Japan's Internal affairs?

Just give a bow from all execs than all problem will gone, of course you need to be Japanese to be able to get away like that.

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It is routine in Japan for preparations for trials to take months.

In Ghosn's case the preparations are taking years, despite the Japanese persecutors claiming they already have plenty of evidence. It's almost as if the persecutors are dragging their feet on purpose.

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Not permitting family contact should be outlawed by international convention.  Japan needs to be pulled into the 20th century.

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Well, we must admit that the system isn't precisely fair...I mean why should anyone be arrested while awaiting trial? A friend of mine (a Japanese national by the way) got arrested for a month, he lost his job and his friends and was unable to communicate for a while and in the end he turned out to be innocent and got released, yet he didn't get his job back or his time or money or anything. How can we commoners protect ourselves from being arrested under "suspicion" of something we didn't do which has not been proven yet? There should be at least some compensation or restitution to the previous workplace in the end if the person turns out to be innocent, however they offer nothing...oops sorry we arrested by mistake you and you turned out to be innocent...go and try to make up your life again from scratch poor loser...

Ghosn is just a rich powerful man whose voice is being heard for the first time (assuming that he is really innocent, which we do not know yet) but there are many who have suffered the same in silence...I hope this leads to some changes...

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Carole Ghosn says she has not been allowed any contact with her husband, including phone calls or emails.

This is the main problem with the terms of his bail. Keeping a family apart of someone accused (not convicted) of a crime is a humanitarian crime in a country that calls itself a democracy.

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The way the Japanese prosecution system works in the 21st century is appalling at best. I would think China or Saudi Arabia would have a fairer way of carrying out the due process for the accused. No contact with family? Come on Japan!

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It's long past time he get involved.

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"It's almost as if the persecutors are dragging their feet on purpose."

They don't have a case, and it takes time to manufacture one. Endless meetings with the LDP, MoJ, the media...

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A pathetic blatant desperate last hour move to save a more than lost case..

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 @Spectral

A friend of mine (a Japanese national by the way) got arrested for a month, he lost his job and his friends and was unable to communicate for a while and in the end he turned out to be innocent and got released, yet he didn't get his job back or his time or money or anything. 

Too bad for your friend, what was the charge? Can't imagine if someone gone from workplace from one month, even less one week without any news to your workplace can ruin your job. One month will lost job.

In case they don't get it they will try to get your confession in one way or another. Ghosn he is pretty strong for this matter.

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It is a bad system and works on guilty till proven innocent Japan doesn't like change and prefer to leave things as they are and let somebody else deal with it later.

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It's a "hostage justice" system, plain and simple.

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I'm just glad Nissan is going down. Clearly, the oyaji's can't run a global company like Nissan without Ghosn.

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@sakurasuki Apparently he was held because an acquaintance of his (apparently a business associate) was involved in some fraud. I do not know the details very well but my friend did not have to do with it, however he was held prisoner while being investigated and thanks to that his life was torn apart.

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I am just afraid now, because anyone can be accused of anything and then they just take you away to investigate you and your life falls apart in the meantime...someone please tell me I am wrong and it is not as grim and simple as that...

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I am just afraid now, because anyone can be accused of anything and then they just take you away to investigate you and your life falls apart in the meantime...someone please tell me I am wrong and it is not as grim and simple as that…

It is not as grim and simple as that, what you are saying is extreme hyperbole nothing more.

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Macron: What's up with Carlos Ghosn being held in detention unable to even talk with his wife on the phone over some alleged white collar crimes?

Abe: Ya, he's being treated well and due process is commencing.

Macron: OK.

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With all the grave matters on the plate for this G7,Amazonian forest in flame,agressive China,Brexit

don't really think that President Marcon and PM Abe will have time to discuss about Goshn.

The G7 must focus on the large picture not such minor issues.

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SerranoAug. 23  08:13 pm JST

“Macron: What's up with Carlos Ghosn being held in detention unable to even talk with his wife on the phone over some alleged white collar crimes?”

Ghosn isn’t in detention. He’s been out on bail for months.

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Regardless of the circumstances of Mr Ghosn's bail conditions surely any representation by Mr Macron could be seen as interfering in Japan's Internal affairs.

A human rights issue goes beyond Japans intetnal affairs.

At least now it is becomming common knowledge that Japans method of interrogation is subtle isolation.

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Quite true, Japan’s conditions for the accused are harsher than other G7 nations, and is set up for the accuser not the accused.

Have you actually looked at the legal systems in G7 countries. I have. Two examples.

In Italy the police can detain you up to two yours without bringing charges.

In France foreign nationals typically spend an average of 18 months in detention awaiting trial. Foreign nationals are almost never released on bail.

I find it very tedious to read comments by people who clearly have not looked at how the US system works in practice to say nothing of the various European systems.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/nyregion/kalief-browder-settlement-lawsuit.html

Criticism of Japan/Japanese should be based on knowledge, not prejudice.

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