Male rapper arrested for threatening woman on social media

This is national news?!

That is a pretty rubbish threat.

Seems to be only a harmless virtual rapper. All the real ones I heard so far of communicate directly with fists , knives and handguns.

Such a vague threat. Perhaps threatening to sing to her would have been more effective.

Given how many news stories there have been about the police not acting on threats and someone ends up attacked/dead its always nice to see someone get clapped for this stuff. Police tend to not move unless they can really prove it/I'm sure the persons "image" had a lot to do with it too. Too many incidents in the last few years that police probably want to jump on these sooner to save face as well.

It's Tupac and Biggie all over again.

seems like the appropriate response would have been to haul his behind to the koban and spend a few hours questioning him. Since the message was sent at 4:00am in the morning I'm guessing alcohol had a big role in his decision making and after a few hours of police questioning he would come to his senses, quick!

I would assume this falls under the new Cyber Bullying / Online Abuse laws?

Which could include up to one year jail time?

https://japantoday.com/category/crime/japan-introduces-up-to-one-year-jail-time-for-cyberbullying

He should have told the police he was lost for words and was in the middle of writing her a poem which can be a rhyme but before he finished it he hit send mistakenly! After all he is a Rapper!!

And now he'll use the experience to write a hit rap song.

And knowing Japanese girl groupies, he'll become more popular with the ladies for being a bad boy.

Just checked out some of this guys stuff on YouTube.

The first rapper I've ever heard using a Cher-style auto-tune voice. Hopefully the last!

Dr. Dre he ain't.

I love the way so many men here are downplaying this and making fun of the girl who was afraid. I'm guessing none of you have ever been stalked or threatened before.

Oh wait, I forgot - you're all MEN, which means you wouldn't be worried when another man threatens you, since you are capable of self-defense. I guess that means you can't imagine ever actually being afraid, the way women are afraid, of men.

Male lack of empathy towards women, yeah, par for the course around here. It really is telling when men dismiss womens' fears like this.

girl_in_tokyoToday  07:44 am JST

I love the way so many men here are downplaying this and making fun of the girl who was afraid. I'm guessing none of you have ever been stalked or threatened before.

Oh wait, I forgot - you're all MEN, which means you wouldn't be worried when another man threatens you, since you are capable of self-defense. I guess that means you can't imagine ever actually being afraid, the way women are afraid, of men.

Male lack of empathy towards women, yeah, par for the course around here. It really is telling when men dismiss womens' fears like this.

I, as a man, read through all the comments here prior to yours and noticed NOT 1 of these comments are making fun of, downplaying, targeting, putting to shame or anything a feminist can find to make a valuable point to claim "males downplaying a serious issue and making fun of the female!" The comments are :

Lord_EcksSep. 28  08:19 pm JST

I would assume this falls under the new Cyber Bullying / Online Abuse laws?

Dave FairSep. 28  08:13 pm JST

seems like the appropriate response would have been to haul his behind to the koban and spend a few hours questioning him.

gaijintravellerSep. 28  06:36 pm JST

Such a vague threat.

KaerimashitaSep. 28  05:49 pm JST

That is a pretty rubbish threat.

I fail to see the correlation where someone is "downplaying this and making fun of the girl".

My peaceful advice is to keep your feminist comments to yourself or to sites where it is welcomed. If the tables were turned and a guy were to be bashing ALL WOMEN, nobody would like it.

Male lack of empathy towards women, yeah, par for the course around here. It really is telling when men dismiss womens' fears like this.

What an unplesent thing to say! SMH

I would assume this falls under the new Cyber Bullying / Online Abuse laws?

For all the reservations I had about the new laws when they were reported this can be the case, and from some examples I know about, it has benefited people in indirect ways as well, social media is not the only online place where harassment is present and now it is apparently easier to make the people responsible of toxic sites enforce their own rules to protect people, or face economic consequences.

"Something will happen to you the moment you forget about it, but I hope you’re ready for it since you only have yourself to blame."

Wow!! DEEP... If this is an example of his writing ability, I'm sure he will be very successful......LLF

I love the way so many men here are downplaying this and making fun of the girl who was afraid. I'm guessing none of you have ever been stalked or threatened before.

Oh wait, I forgot - you're all MEN, which means you wouldn't be worried when another man threatens you, since you are capable of self-defense. I guess that means you can't imagine ever actually being afraid, the way women are afraid, of men.

Male lack of empathy towards women, yeah, par for the course around here. It really is telling when men dismiss womens' fears like this.

Yes...you are correct. As men we never have to be afraid of being attacked. Another man threatening us is nothing and we often just laugh in his face because we are tough and are capable of self-defence. Men are never afraid and we just go through life with an amazing feeling of lightness and positivity.

What a ridiculous statement....but typical of your comments on here. If you say that men are capable of self defence, that infers that you think women are not.....that's not very feminist of you. This also infers that you feel men most rescue women from other men (since you seem to feel that women are incapable of rescuing themselves)......I didn't realise women's rights activists were now campaigning for a return to the 19th C...not very progressive.

It really is telling when women, who constantly go on about how men don't need to rescue or protect women, when push comes to shove bleat about how men need to do more to rescue and protect women.

Sigh....get off your moral high horse and help fix the problem. YOU are a part of society too, so YOU also propagate the problem.

The male rapper was living in the world of mandom.

woo so scary...

It is not an explicit threat.

He doesnt sound like a nice person, and I have no idea about the relationship between these two.

However arrest for this kind of reason, I cannot support, as it seem rather spurious.

"watch your back"

Menacing perhaps. But arrest?

I love the way so many men here are downplaying this and making fun of the girl who was afraid. I'm guessing none of you have ever been stalked or threatened before.

Your attitude makes me feel afraid - can I get you arrested ?

zulanderToday 11:43 am JST

It is not an explicit threat.

The police seem to think it is.

And since the police don't generally arrest someone for a single Tweet, have you considered that there is more to the story than is written here, and that she may actually have a sound reason to be afraid?

But no, go on ... I'm sure all the women here are more than happy to get your personal hot take on whether they should be afraid or not when men threaten them over social media.

Your attitude makes me feel afraid - can I get you arrested ?

Look out, ladies. Here is a man who doesn't see the difference between a woman pointing out misogyny, and a man using social media to try to scare a woman he is angry with.

Sheikh YerboabyToday 09:48 am JST

Yes...you are correct. As men we never have to be afraid of being attacked. Another man threatening us is nothing and we often just laugh in his face because we are tough and are capable of self-defence. Men are never afraid and we just go through life with an amazing feeling of lightness and positivity.

I said the men who are making fun of this girl have no empathy for her. Then I speculated on why that might be - which is not, as you imply, a statement that I don't think men can ever feel afraid; rather, it is to say that men who have never felt afraid cannot empathize.

Clearly, you trying to avoid addressing the main point - that men here are making fun of a woman who felt threatened. Do you have anything to comment on in that regard ...?

What a ridiculous statement....but typical of your comments on here. If you say that men are capable of self defence, that infers that you think women are not....that's not very feminist of you.

It's not very feminist to point out that men are much larger and stronger than women, and that men can often easily overpower women physically? Um, what?

This also infers that you feel men most rescue women from other men (since you seem to feel that women are incapable of rescuing themselves)......I didn't realise women's rights activists were now campaigning for a return to the 19th C...not very progressive.

I'm confused. You think that the fact that men are bigger and stronger than women means that men must rescue women (this is the police's job) which then implies that women are incapable of rescuing themselves (of beating up men??) which in turn means I am campaigning "for a return to the 19th century" (an era where women had very few human rights as compared to men).

Again, what??

It really is telling when women, who constantly go on about how men don't need to rescue or protect women, when push comes to shove bleat about how men need to do more to rescue and protect women.

Do you really think that when women talk about being independent and fully capable human beings, they are declaring their ability to beat up any man that attacks them?

I think you are very confused.

Sigh....get off your moral high horse and help fix the problem. YOU are a part of society too, so YOU also propagate the problem.

Let me get this straight. By calling out men for making fun of a woman for feeling scared when she was threatened on social media, I am somehow "propagating the problem" of men not taking threats to women seriously. Um, okay?

That's some genius-level logic. I take my hat off to you, sir.

sir_bentley28Today 08:31 am JST

I, as a man, read through all the comments here prior to yours and noticed NOT 1 of these comments are making fun of, downplaying, targeting, putting to shame or anything a feminist can find to make a valuable point to claim "males downplaying a serious issue and making fun of the female!"

Well, thank goodness we ladies have the opinion of A MAN to let us know when we should or should not be alarmed. You ought to let all the women in your life know that you are the one to come to when they are wondering whether they should feel afraid.

Huh. I wonder if you really want that responsibility, though. Because if you are wrong ...

My peaceful advice is to keep your feminist comments to yourself or to sites where it is welcomed. If the tables were turned and a guy were to be bashing ALL WOMEN, nobody would like it.

Ah, here we go: women aren't allowed to comment if they have a feminist take (censorship?).

And if a woman calls out a particular man or men for doing a specific thing, it really means that she thinks ALL men are doing that thing. I thought that old #notallmen trope was dead, but apparently not.

girl_in_tokyo

Well, thank goodness we ladies have the opinion of A MAN to let us know when we should or should not be alarmed. You ought to let all the women in your life know that you are the one to come to when they are wondering whether they should feel afraid.

WTH are you on about? Can you point out where in my post did I say or imply that women need a man's opinion on weather they should be alarmed or scared? I debunked your claim that the males commenting (I don't know which of them are women or men and quite frankly, I DON'T CARE) are downplaying the threat by showing you their comments. Nothing of that hinted on "mens power over women" as you hinted. Such rubbish, I say!

And if a woman calls out a particular man or men for doing a specific thing, it really means that she thinks ALL men are doing that thing.

Ok, according to your EXTREME FEMINIST and non-sensical logic, if one man on the train smokes or does drugs, does that mean I am doing it too? Or do you think your father or grandfather too? They are/were men, right? A man always beats his wife, does that mean you think your father, brother, uncle or grandfather does it too? Or is that different because it involves someone you know? Many men do drugs, regardless of what type. I guess I must be doing it too according to your gormless assumption.

Mwn also have many problems and issues that when brought to light. If this situation were to have the roles reversed, do you think it would be news worthy?

Headline'

"Female rapper arrested for threating man on social media"

What would you say to this? Nobody would bat an eye at it.

Mwn - Men

“ According to police, Shun Yamamoto, a rapper from Kawasaki City who performs under the name “SHuN-BOX,” sent a threatening message to the woman in her 20s at around 4 a.m. on Sept 22.

Local media reported that the message stated, “Something will happen to you the moment you forget about it, but I hope you’re ready for it since you only have yourself to blame.” “

What a tough guy huh, so many “ gangstas “ out there;

smh

who knows what could’ve happened next (?)

a man who even thinks about hurting a woman or child is pure garbage.

sir_bentley28Today 02:41 pm JST

I debunked your claim that the males commenting (I don't know which of them are women or men and quite frankly, I DON'T CARE) are downplaying the threat by showing you their comments. Nothing of that hinted on "mens power over women" as you hinted. Such rubbish, I say!

No, you did not "debunk" anything. You gave an opinion that those posts were not downplaying the threat to this woman. That lead to my comment that "thank god we have a man's opinon on whether women should be alarmed" because you apparently think that you and the other men are best people judge whether that woman should feel threatened or not.

Ok, according to your EXTREME FEMINIST and non-sensical logic, if one man on the train smokes or does drugs, does that mean I am doing it too?

Why would you think that feminism is about accusing ALL men of doing something that one, two, or a few, men have done?

Mwn also have many problems and issues that when brought to light. If this situation were to have the roles reversed, do you think it would be news worthy?

Why wouldn't I?

The police seem to think it is.

Whether a threat is explicit or not isnt really an opinion, it is a fact. Its either stated or not.

Implicit threat, is subjective. And being arrested for a subjectively interpreted non-explicit threat, is not something we should cheer for.

Look out, ladies. Here is a man who doesn't see the difference between a woman pointing out misogyny, and a man using social media to try to scare a woman he is angry with.

I feel afraid by your implicit threat. And your subsequent mocking tone of my fear and lived experience.

"a man using social media to try and scare a woman" -so not really a threat then, by your own admission.

zulanderToday 05:05 pm JST

Whether a threat is explicit or not isnt really an opinion, it is a fact. Its either stated or not.

When we talk about it, here, among ourselves, it is an opinion. But it is the police who determine whether it is a threat according to the law.

It is my opinion that it is a veiled threat, and in my experience as a woman, women should take any kind of threat, whether direct or indirect, seriously - because we can never really know if a guy is going to decide to carry it out.

I feel afraid by your implicit threat. And your subsequent mocking tone of my fear and lived experience.

Again, you don't seem to know the difference between a woman calling out a man for misogyny and a threat to harm.

This entire conversation is just silly, because it's clear you're just trolling. I should probably just ignore you, but then again, I'm also super curious to see what other silly arguments you come up with. It's rather amusing, in a "how dumb will his comments get" way. :)

Arresting a cyber stalker is good! Calling him a rapper......not so good.

girl_in_tokyo

*Let me get this straight. By calling out men for making fun of a woman for feeling scared when she was threatened on social media, I am somehow "propagating the problem" of men not taking threats to women seriously. Um, okay?*

Also, where does it say that she was scared because she was threatened?

Why would you think that feminism is about accusing ALL men of doing something that one, two, or a few, men have done?

Um.....I'm not sure.......I think somewhere along the lines of your own comment:

And if a woman calls out a particular man or men for doing a specific thing, it really means that she thinks ALL men are doing that thing. I thought that old #notallmen trope was dead, but apparently not.

I did debunk it by showing you that none of the comments were making fun of or downplaying the woman's cause for filing the police report against a wannabe rapper. I as well as everyone else here commend her for doing so. What the comments were pointing out was his weak and vague attempt at "making a threat". So everyone was making fun of the...ahem...."rapper"

It is my opinion that it is a veiled threat

ie, not an EXPLICIT threat.

(definition adjective

stated clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt.)

I don't care about your gender war.

Arresting someone for a vague subjectively implicit threat is not something the state should be doing.

Again, you don't seem to know the difference between a woman calling out a man for misogyny and a threat to harm.

Again, she, you and the police dont seem to know the difference between some jilted man posting mean things online, and an actual threat.

We don't know the background story, maybe he was harassing her, maybe she had felt threatened by other things he had done - that is indeed a very bad situation, however as a society we need due process and arresting for the reason of an online mean or vaguely menacing post, is not the thing to do. Yes get him arrest him and hold him responsible for things he has done, but this is not a technicality that we should be arresting people for.

sir_bentley28Today 08:30 am JST

I said:

Let me get this straight. By calling out men for making fun of a woman for feeling scared when she was threatened on social media, I am somehow "propagating the problem" of men not taking threats to women seriously. Um, okay?

Then you said:

Also, where does it say that she was scared because she was threatened?

This is not a response to the clarification I requested. It's a red herring, meant to throw the discussion off track, so you can avoid the original question. So maybe you can explain exactly how I am "propagating the problem" because I really don't see the logic in that.

Um.....I'm not sure.......I think somewhere along the lines of your own comment:

I said "a particular man" doing a "specific thing" - I did not say "all men". As I made clear, the oft-repeated trope of #notallmen should be dead and buried by now, and I'm not sure why it continues to be a point used to accuse feminists of being unfair or extremists.

I did debunk it by showing you that none of the comments were making fun of or downplaying the woman's cause

No, you disagreed with my opinion - which is fine; people disagree.

But what you should consider is that men really have no business telling women when or if they should be alarmed - our instincts on whether a man is a danger to us tend to be right, and if you try to undermine women's instincts, that is, to tell women they should not be afraid, and not trust their instincts, that is very very dangerous.

Our instincts can save our lives. And even if we are wrong, and overreact, that is far better than being hurt or killed because we did not want to make a fuss.

So if you love the women in your life, tell them to make a fuss. Scream. Run. Call the police. Don't worry if you might be wrong. Trust your instincts. It can save a life.

Are we clear now? I honestly do hope you get something from this convo.

zulanderToday 12:01 pm JS

Arresting someone for a vague subjectively implicit threat is not something the state should be doing.

Then address this to the police, not me. I didn't make the law, and I didn't arrest him.

Again, she, you and the police dont seem to know the difference between some jilted man posting mean things online, and an actual threat.

Here is where you have it wrong. Women get threatened and harassed by men a lot, and throughout our lives we have to make judgments on whether those threats are real or whether the guy is just blustering.

And just as I said to the other poster, this largely depends on instinct: we tend to know when a man is serious and is a danger, and when he is not.

Don't dismiss or discount womens' instincts. It's a dangerous precedent to set, as more than likely it will get women killed.

If Lindsey Hawker had trusted her instincts, she would be alive today.

And before you say again "that was JUST A TWEET" please remember that men have been known to follow though on less explicit threats than that one was.

It is not an explicit threat.

No, but in a way, it's even worse. A direct threat might just be a drunken rant, but this suggests patience and planning. It's quite creepy - I would be very concerned. It is likely that the police considered other factors to determine whether to arrest the guy.

Don't dismiss or discount womens' instincts. It's a dangerous precedent to set, as more than likely it will get women killed

I dont disagree with your sentiment, I am pointing out that the ends dont justify the means. ie arresting someone for a non-explicit threat, or arresting people on "womens instinct" or even anyones "instinct" is a dystopia we should not embrace.

She might be right, he might be a creep. He is a "rapper", chances are high. The offense however, is not the reason he should be arrested.

No, but in a way, it's even worse.

Subjectively yes - but its not something concrete to arrest someone on.

You have seen Minority Report right?

zulanderToday 05:53 pm JS

I dont disagree with your sentiment, I am pointing out that the ends dont justify the means. ie arresting someone for a non-explicit threat, or arresting people on "womens instinct" or even anyones "instinct" is a dystopia we should not embrace.

I'm not sure why you don't understand that the police are in charge of enforcing the law as it is written, and that I'm not here to argue whether the law is just or right. I'm here to point out that the guys in this thread who are making light of this and attempting to paint this woman as histrionic need to remember that women have historically been told to shut up and tolerate such harassment, and that has resulted in women being murdered.

Did you know that even ten years ago the police in Japan wouldn't even react if a woman was being followed and verbally harassed face to face? What prompted change was a high school girl who was murdered by her boyfriend after she had begged the police to speak to him and make him leave her alone. They basically dismissed it as not a real threat and did nothing - and she died. Since then there have been several other high-profile cases where women asked for help, the police did nothing, and they died.

I myself was stalked for nearly a year, and the police did nothing - they said "call us if this person comes to your house or attacks you." This person sent emails with vaguely implied threats similar to the one this girl received. It scared the HELL out of me even though nothing happened in the end, and the person gave up.

I really don't think you guys are capable of understanding the fear that women live with when this happens to us. We have NO idea if the guy is hiding around the next corner with a knife, or if he is at home reading a book.

I'm not arguing any longer with you. I just hope that if a woman in your life comes to you with something like this, you will support her in calling the police and getting the guy away from her instead of starting a stupid debate with her over whether the law is "fair" or whether the text/email/call/tweet she received was "really" a threat. Think about it.

I'm not sure why you don't understand that the police are in charge of enforcing the law as it is written, and that I'm not here to argue whether the law is just or right

That is the point - whether or not it is a potential overreach by police - your assumption is that the police are always right to the letter of the law?