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Man arrested for committing lewd acts with 14-year-old girl claims he thought she was older

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Police in Nagareyama, Chiba Prefecture, have arrested a 31-year-old man on suspicion of committing lewd acts with a 14-year-old girl and paying her money at a love hotel in July.

According to police, Kiyoshi Nishiyama, a cram school teacher, has admitted to the charge but said he believed the girl was 18 or older and not a minor.

Broadcaster TBS reported that Nishiyama met the girl on a social network site and arranged to meet her at a hotel in Ibaraki Prefecture. He also promised to pay the girl for her time.

The case came to light when one of the girl’s parents contacted police and said she had been engaging in papakatsu (where a girl is paid money or given gifts to spend time with an older man).

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It seems that some people in society might benefit from an app that links people of confirmed legal age who desire to enter an agreement in which money is exchanged for consensual sexual intercourse of various types. Perhaps such service already exists somewhere.

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It may be easy for a 60something year old to not know a girls age…but a cram school teacher? They teach 14 year olds FGS. Throw the book at him.

her parents should give her pocket money or send her to Australia or somewhere for school outside the world she seems to live in.

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No comment one way or another on his claim. But I cannot wrap my head around how a 14 year old would be engaged in prostitution in Japan unless the parents were negligent. Makes me wonder what kind of environment she grew up in.

4 ( +15 / -11 )

It’s all very Japanese!

-5 ( +17 / -22 )

Good for the parents that had at least the presence of mind to do the right thing and go to the authorities to stop this, It would have been better if they could have acted before it begins, but without knowing the details it is not possible to say they acted irresponsibly before. Other parents may not do the same in this kind of situation and it could lead to very dangerous situations for the girl.

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The case came to light when one of the girl’s parents contacted police and said she had been engaging in papakatsu (where a girl is paid money or given gifts to spend time with an older man).

There is much more going on in this family that the parents had to contact the cops!

14 is around JHS 2nd or 3rd year, and this girl and her family obviously have some issues. They all need help here!

9 ( +13 / -4 )

Thought she was at least 16…

-8 ( +0 / -8 )

He is still guilty, and she was still being exploited.

-9 ( +5 / -14 )

These types of articles always mention social media sites, but never say which ones. It does make a difference. Also, it’s Japan’s fault for not getting a National sexual predator list going.

14 and 18 are significantly different, male or female. Maybe not always physically, but definitely mentally and maturity wise, the guy knew what the deal was, in person.

As for the girl and her family, well, as always, not enough details in the story to make a conclusion there. Readers are always forced to leave their opinions based on poorly written articles.

0 ( +10 / -10 )

That’s Henna’ oji’san, in Old School Terms.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

He thought she was 14 and a half

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

I would expect a cram school teacher to be able to tell that a 14 year old girl is not 18 or over.

And given his interest in young girls, I have a pretty good idea why he's a cram school teacher.

7 ( +13 / -6 )

It’s plausible he thought she was older but it doesn’t sound like he forced the girl. I nearly got arrested for kissing my gf in a park. Someone called the police and told them I was a pedophile. We’re both 33 but they thought she was a minor because she’s tiny less than 5ft tall. It was so embarrassing. At least they apologized to us for the misunderstanding.

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Oh! And he was drunk! That always helps.

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

When you have words like “papakatsu”, there’s not much you can do to prevent this kind of situations. Do not blame the poor girl; she didn’t ask to be born and grow up in Japan – a country where young(!) girls and women are sexualized 24/7.

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Today  07:54 am JST It’s all very Japanese!

my thoughts, when I read the article.

-14 ( +6 / -20 )

According to police, Kiyoshi Nishiyama, a cram school teacher, has admitted to the charge but said he believed the girl was 18 or older and not a minor

Please. Many women in Japan look like they're perpetually stuck in adolescenthood. A Japanese girl would look...like an underage girl. The man is lying through his teeth. And he's a cram school teacher? Another predator being allowed to be around minors. Lock him up n throw away the key.

-15 ( +6 / -21 )

Yet another creepy pervert using the internet to groom underage girls for sex. When will Japan make this a serious criminal offense? This creep would be facing 7-10 years in jail in Australia.

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

Statutory Rape legislation where any sex act with an underage person[consensual or not } is deemed to be rape because the victim is underage and cannot therefore give informed consent.

-2 ( +6 / -8 )

The point of “papakatsu” is to meet underaged girls, with the mutual understanding that the girl is pretending to be of legal age.

Unlucky him the parents found out. There surely are thousands more to catch.

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Regardless of how amusing some people may find the expression, this is a fine example why we should avoid the word "papakatsu". Note that it is defined here as "where a girl is paid money or given gifts to spend time with an older man". Oh so nice and sweet and innocent. All too often, this "spending time" is "lewd acts" in a love hotel. When the "girl" is a minor, this is rightfully illegal, and should be heavily punished. Spending time with a young woman in the process of setting her up for lewd acts is grooming, a serious offence we should not belittle by calling the john her "papa".

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When you have words like “papakatsu”, there’s not much you can do to prevent this kind of situations. Do not blame the poor girl; she didn’t ask to be born and grow up in Japan – a country where young(!) girls and women are sexualized24/7.

*And her parents obviously could’ve done a better job protecting her from all the s** (aka creeps) that is out there.

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@wallace

did you miss the post?

Many women in Japan look like they're perpetually stuck in their adolescent hood. 

It’s the body, @wallace. Not the dress.

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So comon in Japan. And sorry, it will carry on happening when all media shows the interest of staying young sweet to gain your life as a woman.

As a parent of two daughters, it is my duty to explain the limits of the system to my girls. It seems so far so good but would make my failure if happening. I don´t see voluntary sex as a criminal activity at that age but as a more or less perverted behaviour. To stand my point, think if it was a 16 year old paying for lewd sex with the girl. No difference...and it happens for sure because the very common reason for this activity is buying luxurious items, not food !

Japan, educate your girls.

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RodneyToday  07:29 am JST

It may be easy for a 60something year old to not know a girls age…but a cram school teacher? They teach 14 year olds FGS. Throw the book at him.

her parents should give her pocket money or send her to Australia or somewhere for school outside the world she seems to live in.

Australia, as though teenagers don't have sex there. WOW! Maybe you should listen to the song by the POLICE, don't stand so close to me. They are becoming adults, while still being children, and "may" not know what is fully appropriate. Even seen 14/15 year old boys do the same. and yet we kinda have that ATTA BOY. attitude, if it was with a female school teacher. Possible male double standard there!

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GuruMickToday  11:58 am JST

Statutory Rape legislation where any sex act with an underage person[consensual or not } is deemed to be rape because the victim is underage and cannot therefore give informed consent.

RIGHT! So lets call a 16/17/ 18 year old having sex with a 15 year old a rapist.NOT!

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“No comment one way or another on his claim. But I cannot wrap my head around how a 14 year old would be engaged in prostitution in Japan unless the parents were negligent. Makes me wonder what kind of environment she grew up in.”

Maybe Shibuya if you wonder

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

Japan, educate your girls.

Not just educate, but monitor. While they are a minor, you have every right to check their phone regularly to make sure they aren't viewing things they shouldn't be, getting bullied, or bullying someone else, etc. There's no point in waiting until after they have gotten into trouble.

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“ And her parents obviously could’ve done a better job protecting her from all the s** (aka creeps) that is out there. “

Should’ve added ”disgusting perverts and pedophiles”.

Today  01:17 pm JST

“ So comon in Japan. And sorry, it will carry on happening when all media shows the interest of staying young sweet to gain your life as a woman.

As a parent of two daughters, it is my duty to explain the limits of the system to my girls. It seems so far so good but would make my failure if happening. I don´t see voluntary sex as a criminal activity at that age but as a more or less perverted behaviour. To stand my point, think if it was a 16 year old paying for lewd sex with the girl. No difference...and it happens for sure because the very common reason for this activity is buying luxurious items, not food !

Japan, educate your girls. “

Today  02:38 pm JST

Japan, educate your girls.

“ Not just educate, but monitor. While they are a minor, you have every right to check their phone regularly to make sure they aren't viewing things they shouldn't be, getting bullied, or bullying someone else, etc. There's no point in waiting until after they have gotten into trouble. “

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(1) Good parenting and a (2) strong education. That’s it.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

I can clearly smell it, you envy him deep inside your mind, and if you’re not extremely busy otherwise during working time, you think in principle of nothing else than also becoming rich, schedule such a date on a papakatsu site and hope for some more luck not being caught. No need to response, admit or complain. We all know our true human nature, don’t we?

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@therougou

When I meant educating, it implied monitoring indeed.

Never think the world is sweet and made of nice people only.

At the same time, I am not to see standard sex as a demeaning activity. It is life !

It seems taboos and prejudice are strong for many.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

Cammanteer,how in the hell can you blame somebody for somebody abusing their child

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I dont know if there is any sex education in Japanese schools, if so to what level and how far indepth do they go, if they do, does it cover sexualy trasmitted infections, and what they do to a persons body if not treated, do they teach kids all about what a meaningful relationship is about, not just swapping bodies for sex, and money. Did she meet him just for the money? there needs to some sort of education on both sides here, but well done to her parents for spotting what had happened and how well they reacted, and lets not forget the police here, as the J police do get a lot of critisiumn for not thinking or doing anything.

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A better excuse would have been they were meeting for after school and cram school tutoring.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Faults on both sides here. He would have known her age but she also knew why she was going there and agreed to payment.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

This is probably NOT his first and it won't be his last.

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@Alongfortheride I TOTALLY AGREE. The parents can't be angry at the man they should be angry at the daughter. The man regardless of what people are saying what you see and hear are totally different from what you get. She was on the website and she knew what she wanted he was on the website looking for what ever he could get it just so happened he got in trouble and the daughter she got paid. He went to jail!!

Faults on both sides here. He would have known her age but she also knew why she was going there and agreed to payment.

The case came to light when one of the girl’s parents contacted police and said she had been engaging in papakatsu (where a girl is paid money or given gifts to spend time with an older man).

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Faults on both sides here. He would have known her age but she also knew why she was going there and agreed to payment.

She's 14. The very fact that she was prostituting herself shows that the logic centers of her brain are not fully developed, and that she is still not thinking like an adult. This is because children literally lack the capacity to think like adults. This is why they cannot consent by law, because we (society) have determined they lack the capability to be able to consent.

As children literally cannot consent to sex with adults, it's always 100% the fault of the adult.

And let's be real, some of y'all think we don't notice your defense that 'she knew' was because some of y'all want a defense if/when you sleep with minors.

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The amount of downvotes to certain comments is unbelievable; honestly, I don’t understand; or maybe I do, but it wouldn’t be appropriate to say it here.

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Aug. 29  11:56 pm JST

Faults on both sides here. He would have known her age but she also knew why she was going there and agreed to payment.

“ She's 14. The very fact that she was prostituting herself shows that the logic centers of her brain are not fully developed, and that she is still not thinking like an adult. This is because children literally lack the capacity to think like adults. This is why they cannot consent by law, because we (society) have determined they lack the capability to be able to consent.

As children literally cannot consent to sex with adults, it's always 100% the fault of the adult.

And let's be real, some of y'all think we don't notice your defense that 'she knew' was because some of y'all want a defense if/when you sleep with minors. “

– Great post/Well said, Strangerland.

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The very fact that she was prostituting herself shows that the logic centers of her brain are not fully developed, and that she is still not thinking like an adult.

Are the logic centres of adult prostitutes' brains not fully developed?

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Raw BeerAug. 29  09:54 am JST

I would expect a cram school teacher to be able to tell that a 14 year old girl is not 18 or over.

And given his interest in young girls, I have a pretty good idea why he's a cram school teacher.

He ought to know better than that, since he teaches them on the job as much as he does.

StrangerlandAug. 29  11:56 pm JST

Faults on both sides here. He would have known her age but she also knew why she was going there and agreed to payment.

She's 14. The very fact that she was prostituting herself shows that the logic centers of her brain are not fully developed, and that she is still not thinking like an adult. This is because children literally lack the capacity to think like adults. This is why they cannot consent by law, because we (society) have determined they lack the capability to be able to consent.

As children literally cannot consent to sex with adults, it's always 100% the fault of the adult.

And let's be real, some of y'all think we don't notice your defense that 'she knew' was because some of y'all want a defense if/when you sleep with minors.

That's the excuse, 'she wants to' but when their children get into situations like this, they're the ones howling for blood in court.

LamillyAug. 29  10:25 pm JST

There is only one guilty party here, Nishiyama. Not the girl, not her parents. It's Nishiyama.

Kiyoshi Nishiyama is around minors on his job all the time. He can tell a minor from an adult. He's a perv.

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The fact that he's a cram school teacher really says it all. You work with young people who look the same age as this girl you are meeting for sex (and who are the same age as this girl you are meeting for sex). I swear, I'm glad I didn't go to school in Japan. Between the bullying and the plethora of pedophile teachers, that is one giant "hell no."

Also, agreed with the posts about the need to educate children here much more. But it shouldn't just be girls getting that education. Men are the ones sleeping with underage girls in all of these stories - boys should be being educated, too - even if for being on the opposite side of the issue.

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“ Are the logic centres of adult prostitutes' brains not fully developed? “

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If you wanna talk about an adult prostitute (–consensual sex with other adults), we’ll need to talk about possible childhood traumas/molestations, family issues and the environment she grew up in. If you wanna talk about a 14 year old having sex with older men for money, we’ll (yes,) talk about her brain AND the predator/pedophile/rapist.

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rcch,

Fair enough. I was only asking.

If you wanna talk about an adult prostitute (–consensual sex with other adults), we’ll need to talk about possible childhood traumas/molestations, family issues and the environment she grew up in. 

Yes. Possible childhood traumas etc. There may not be any, which is what I am trying to say.

And males can be prostitutes, too.

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Sorry, and loads of people with the above in their childhoods don't turn to sex work. Also, some people are forced into it (trafficked) and it likely has nothing to do with their brain development.

I just think the part of Strangerland's comment that I responded to was a bit judgemental, and an over generalisation.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

*“ Yes.  Possible childhood traumas etc. There may not be any, which is what I am trying to say. Also, some people are forced into it (trafficked) and it likely has nothing to do with their brain development. “*

There are cases where the reason the woman becomes a prostitute is desperation (–a last resort); examples: health problems; an expensive surgery; debts, etcetera. Still different from a 14 year old (whose family is waiting for her at home) wanting to buy luxury items, clothes, candies, toys and Disneyland tickets. Sex trafficking is a completely different situation (I don’t know why you brought that up).

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There are cases where the reason the woman becomes a prostitute is desperation (–a last resort); examples: health problems; an expensive surgery; debts, etcetera. 

Yes. Also because it's a good way to make good money while working from home, for example. Or because you enjoy sex, can choose your clients, and get paid well for it. There are many reasons some people become prostitutes, that aren't because their brains are under developed.

Still different from a 14 year old (whose family is waiting for her at homewanting to buy luxury items, clothes, candies, toys and Disneyland tickets. 

Absolutely. Which is why my question was about adults.

Sex trafficking is a completely different situation (I don’t know why you brought that up).

I explained how that was related but here's some detail. The Palermo Protocol of 2000 defines those forced into prostitution as trafficked. (Although some countries have narrower definitions)

"(a) "Trafficking in persons" shall mean the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation.

"Exploitation shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, servitude or the removal of organs;"

It was unfair of the poster to say that every adult who is trafficked have underdeveloped brains.

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Are the logic centres of adult prostitutes' brains not fully developed?

No, but they don't have parents/guardians taking care of their needs. They are adults making adult decisions. Not children making adult decisions.

Some of y'all working really hard to minimize sleeping with a minor.

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Some of y'all working really hard to minimize sleeping with a minor.

Not me, I just thought you were overgeneralising about adult sex workers. I met a lot while I was working in hospitality in Europe (not how it sounds) and sure, some of them were mad as grass helmets but many of them were mature, intelligent and decent people with all sorts of reasons for working in the sex industry. One of them was studying at the London School of Economics.

In no way do I condone this 31-year-old's behaviour.

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It’s plausible he thought she was older but it doesn’t sound like he forced the girl. I nearly got arrested for kissing my gf in a park. Someone called the police and told them I was a pedophile. We’re both 33 but they thought she was a minor because she’s tiny less than 5ft tall. It was so embarrassing. At least they apologized to us for the misunderstanding.

haha....jesus, that must have been mega embarrassing!!

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