Wakayama police have arrested 26-year-old Masaya Ogawa for the indecent assault of a 23-year-old woman aboard a commuter train. Adding a bizarre twist to the story, Ogawa claims that she was asking for it.
He doesn’t mean that in the lame wearing-a-mini-skirt-is-asking-for-it way that other sex offenders use. Ogawa says that this was a prearranged session of “molester-play” set up online between him and the woman.
The incident occurred on April 30 at around 7 p.m. on a train running from Kokawa Station to Wakayama Station. Ogawa was sitting next to the woman who was in the window seat when his hand began to creep toward her skirt. Eventually his hand began squeezing her stomach and thigh without restraint.
At this point, a second, unidentified man who was standing near the door began groping the woman from behind grabbing her breasts. The woman had said “please stop” and the standing man disembarked at the next stop. However, Ogawa continued to grab at the woman’s body. The entire train ride lasted for about 20 to 30 minutes with the groping ongoing throughout. When the train came to its final stop at Wakayama Station, the pair got up to leave. However, as they got off the train, the woman suddenly grabbed the man by the arm and took him to the station workers. They then delivered Ogawa to police.
After his arrest on May 8, Ogawa made a statement saying, “I was looking on a website for people who want to molest to meet people who want to be molested. I got the time and train car information from a woman on that website.” The woman, however, flatly denies ever using that website. Police investigated the “molester-play” website where Ogawa claimed to have met the woman and found postings such as “is there someone to molest on the Wakayama Line?” along with train times and seat locations. They were also able to find the second man who got off the train partway through the site.
The investigation is still ongoing. The woman had said that she always sat in the same seat during her commute, so police are looking into the possibility that Ogawa was catfished, meaning that someone pretending to be the woman online set him up to “molester-play” her.
Source: Sankei News
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Tamarama
How....strange.
MarkG
Very, very bizarre! Either electronic evidence exists oth the guys are more wacko's.
Yubaru
Not bizzare, Japan! Dude's a fool no doubt!
Gotta be a wimp too if the woman just grabbed his arm and took him to the cops without a fight.
mito
Another OIJ story.
hatsoff
What a thing to say! You truly reveal your morals on this one, don't you?! Anyway, no doubt the man was shocked, believing that he hadn't actually criminally molested this woman. Still, it shouldn't be happening on a train even if it had been arranged with consent. No doubt that's the thrill for these people, though.
papigiulio
So can he pass on that url and the police can book the rest of these sickos wtf
Chin4Sailor
Ogawa was quoted as saying, "She was Clearly Asking for it, she refused to ride in the Women's only car, so how is a normal Japanese guy suppose to interpret that...? They ride with the normal passengers, and they are fair game! Game On!"
LOL...
nath
Well, whatever "floats your boat." However, if it is true that she invited him to that type of activity, he should still have proof on his computer (messages between them).
American Devil
Have the police decided to take down the website, or is it legal to have a "train molester" website? I mean, this would be great for catching molesters if it were a sting operation, but if there are actually women who want to be molested, I am just speechless! Dare I ask if there are other heinous molester websites? Actually, maybe I'm better off not knowing.
gogogo
So weird
Yubaru
Went right over your head. No "man" would ever do what he did in the first place.
He's the one with a "morals" problem, not me! Asking for it or otherwise, in public, is still a crime! Indecency laws apply.
nath
Uhm..... How about a safe word to acknowledge that you are actually molesting the correct person?
And another safe word to allow any party to stop the activity at any time?
Bob Sneider
there was a Law and Order Special Victims unit episode just like this.
Draconalis
I saw this episode. Spoiler alert, it's her crazy stalker ex-boyfriend.
nath
The things people do to get their kicks. Also, he molested her for 30 moinutes and she couldn't stop him but then was able to grab him and deliver him to cops?
Frungy
A little common sense? How about confirming the identity of the person before you start assaulting them in public? It could be as simple as, "Hi, are you Jane from www.gropeme.com?" Yes? Excellent. Let's get started shall we?".
I sincerely hope that the police got the IP address of the person who posted on the woman's behalf, but even if they can't it won't be difficult to find him/her. Just look for whoever sits close enough in the same carriage everyday to see the woman. This is clearly someone who watches the woman everyday and doubtless was fantasizing about doing this, but instead duped someone else into doing it for him. He was almost undoubtedly present and watching during the assault, and may have even recorded footage of the assault (check online police!).
I hope they get him, this guy is sick and manipulative.
ben4short
Creative website. Well done. Nothing wrong here, aside from a few logistical hiccups. Consenting adults. Time for most posters to get off their high human sexuality horses.
afanofjapan
The Japanese news showed the postings on the site. The 'woman' posted up right before it started, stating what she was wearing and what carriage etc. So the person who is posting on her behalf must have been on the train with her to know this.
Cos
Then confirm with the other passengers they don't mind being spectators and that train line doesn't charge you an additional fee ? Come on, if they want to play cat and mouse, they take a room somewhere.
Yubaru
A totally different "kink" here, voyeurism. This is scary to think about, and who knows, maybe someone's idea of a way to get back at the creeps that prey on women here in Japan.
It's way too easy to set up, and all too easy to get away with.
Maybe a good thing?
Crazedinjapan
Hope the check every message posted and her computer , wouldn't put it past the young woman to use this as a cash grab ( sorry money ) sounds a lot like entrapment.
She let him go too far if she didn't know him before the other guy jumped in on it. Sounds like she knew what she was into and is playing the police as well.
Other than that typical Hentai stuff out of Japan.
Bhateswar Bhutbhute
now I have heard...rather read everything!!!!
Yubaru
If it was a cash grab sounds to me that she would have made more money by NOT going to the cops. Since this is now gone "official" the $$$$ will go down considerably I do believe.
Let's not forget either that she has to file charges as well for it to go through the system. If she doesn't file, the cops are not going to go through with it.
The Chronic
Forbidden sex has been getting men in trouble since the dawn of time. And they never learn......Like a bull being led to the slaughter.....LOL! My advice: Disregard females, hit da gym, get shredded!
WilliB
Welcome to the wacky world of Japanese hentai otaku...
Sensato
That this woman would endure "20 to 30 minutes" of uninvited groping seems a bit far fetched to me. If I were the victim of this sort of perversion, at the very least I would exit the train at the next stop.
My guess is that the original Japanese article in the Sankei News stemmed from concerns among law enforcement officials that this sort of per-arranged and consensual public molestation has become somewhat too common. By publicizing this sort of scenario, they are hoping to curb this sort of fantasy fulfillment.
ChibaChick
Were the people who had to witness this consenting adults? Or especially the young girls? I wouldnt want my daughter bearing witness to someone getting their sexual kicks right in front of her.
Chin4Sailor
@Frungy
First of all, you're asking an awful lot here in Japan...
ben4short
@ChibaChick
Gropers get their kicks by NOT being seen by others, so your precious daughter will be safe from these foul vagaries of life. Furthermore, if your overprotective neurosis is still in play, get up and change seats.
Magnus Roe
Who writes these articles lately? This one and the one about the 13 yo kid are written in a pretty edgy, unorthodox way. It shouldn't be an issue to find at least a few pointers to confirm these guy's cases though, and with two ganging up on one girl it sounds probable to me that they were thinking she was in on it, so they could have been set up by a third party or she could have arranged it herself for whatever reason.
Disillusioned
Yeah, this is weird, but the thing I find the strangest is, there are actually women using this website to arrange a groping.
ReformedBasher
Well, he can't complain about the realism.
mlg4035
I guess this guy didn't read the fine print about the end of this little escapade: he forgot that part of his role is getting caught! HAHHAHAHAHAH!!!
nath
For what? Suck a website is for legal, and the people posting on it are consenting adults. Are you proposing we legislate morality?
CGB Spender
Nothing beats adult role-play in public! I once met a Japanese woman who said she would do this stuff if she wasn't married.
The Chronic
Strangerland said: Are you proposing we legislate morality?
Well...Yes.....! What CONSENTING ADULTS do in private, hey..go for it. But in Public I don't wanna see that garbage pushed in my face. Pity da fool who does that in front of me! Hammer time!
The Chronic
In fact, we already do legislate it. It's called indecent / lewd behavior in public.
nath
She seems like a drama queen
nath
I agree. But you are speaking to legislate a website for something people are doing offline. Or to put it in other words, you (or whoever it was I quoted) said the site should be shut down - but for what? The people are not doing anything illegal on the website. So the only reason to shut down the website would be to legislate morality.
Sioux Chef
That's a totally different website.
Jimizo
'Catfished', eh? This often happens to me. Last week I was set up to have 6 pints of Guinness poured down my throat.
JeanValJean
" This is clearly someone who watches the woman everyday and doubtless was fantasizing about doing this, but instead duped someone else into doing it for him. He was almost undoubtedly present and watching during the assault, and may have even recorded footage of the assault (check online police!)."
Make that him or her. Voyeurs come in two genders. If this WAS a third-party setup, then it's a new category of online bullying, at least new to me.
The Chronic
Strangeland said: I agree. But you are speaking to legislate a website for something people are doing offline. Or to put it in other words, you (or whoever it was I quoted) said the site should be shut down - but for what? The people are not doing anything illegal on the website. So the only reason to shut down the website would be to legislate morality.
.........
Yes, I strongly support shutting down any website that posts how to commit illegal activity or where to find such.
Just like if someone was passing out flyers on the street asking for girls who want to be molested on the train, please meet at such and such a place and time. He'd be arrested pretty quick.
I'm sick of seeing this chikan sh*t (wanted or un-wanted like said article) almost daily on the train. I've intervened several times but most of us don't have the time or the patience to be every woman''s guardian angel..we have our own life's to live.
J-cops need to seriously start cracking these guys heads if they want the problem to go away...lessened substantially.
Again: disregard females, hit da gym, get shredded!
ADK99
It's quite possible that the perpetrators made all of the postings on the site in order to give themselves an "out" in the event of being caught.
nath
I personally believe in freedom of speech, whereby people should only be persecuted for things they do, not things they say. Not everyone is into freedom of speech though.
Nessie
I bet your two to one the website's hit count is way up since this news broke.
nath
I understand it fully. What I don't understand is how we should break freedom of speech because of something that is discussed on a website, but not executed in real life. To be clear, there is a law here in Japan about public indecency, and if someone breaks that law, then they should be prosecuted. There is no a law against discussing such things on an internet board. That is called freedom of speech - ie. the freedom to speak of such things. This allows for the organization of civil disobedience, among other things. It means not getting arrested for saying something like 'I ran a red light this morning because no one was coming', or 'I like to run red lights if there is no one there'. You people are proposing shutting down this website for things that are said, not things that are done. And that is known as legislating morality.
If you really think there is an argument here for stifling freedom of speech, I want to hear it.
cramp
come on...its concensual role play, no?
Mirai Hayashi
get a room!
Lowly
I did see a Law and Order episode exactly like this a couple mos ago.
Nothing wrong with this fantasy fulfillment. But you need safe words/ passwords to confirm before you begin and to get out without muss if not working. Otherwise it would be too easy to just bully somebody you see on the train by setting them up like this.
But, seriously, her taking it for 30 minutes- and some of that time from 2 guys at once, and not getting up/ changing seats? That's just weird/ stupid.
Victor Kyprios
Japan -- So many questions, so few answers
nath
Yes, executed in real life, not on the site. So they should be prosecuted for public indecency. But the website itself was not used to do anything illegal - it's not illegal to talk about a crime, only to act upon it. Or maybe to prepare for it as well, depending on the crime.
ChibaChick
What a surprise. So you attack and insult ME because I dont like the idea of a child being witness to this kind of behaviour in public. And you think if this does happen, the parent of the child who doesnt want them to witness a woman being molested is neurotic and should change seats??!!! How about th adults who really dont want to see this? Should they all get up and change seats too?
You really have a problem with being disagreed with, dont you Ben4short? Pathetic.
Pukey2
Why on earth would she endure 20-30 minutes of groping before taking action? If she had the courage (or anger) to grab him and march him to the station office then she should have done that as soon as she was fondled. The man should count himself lucky he wasn't in China - the other week, a man was grabbed in the balls by an irate woman and he ended dying from a heart attack.
DudeDeuce
Maybe there is a website as well to set up gropers by pretending to want to be groped. A website within a website on some old inception type of stuff.
The Chronic
Strangerland said: You people are proposing shutting down this website for things that are said, not things that are done. And that is known as legislating morality.
Things that are said??? On the contrary...The site seems to be a place to arrange meetings to conduct illegal activities. On the other hand....Just talking about their feelings towards it groping....not my cup of tea but knock yourself out.
So the guy giving instructions on how to build bombs out of pressure cookers can continue that on his website since he is just talking about it??
Or a website that talks about how nice it would be to assassinate the president of the USA is fine so long as they are just talking about it???
Freedom of speech has it's limits.
therougou
Much like the article yesterday, whether she liked it or not she was dumb for letting him do it. She is helpless in letting the guy grope her for 20 to 30 minutes but then has the power to grab him and take him to the station workers?
mrmalice
i see, the sub-genre of japanese porn has its own live roleplay community and some people got confused then ? Now now, don't blush, every culture has its subs outside broad daylight. Weird story to complete outsiders
nath
It sure does. But you are talking about shutting down a site for discussions of public indecency. Gestapo anyone?
nath
This site is screwed up and cannot accept multiple quotes, so I'll split that last post up:
So you are claiming that every conversation on the site led to an illegal activity? Because other wise:
"On the other hand....Just talking about their feelings towards it groping....not my cup of tea but knock yourself out."
Exactly.
nath
Can you not see the difference between someone talking about performing an act of public indecency, and an act of terrorism? Because you seem to be trying to explain to me how an apple is an orange.
nath
It sure does. But you are talking about shutting down a site for discussions of public indecency. Gestapo anyone?
The Chronic
Final point: There is apparently illegal activity happening on that website even though not all activity is illegal. Shut it down. Last words: Disregard females, hit da gym, get shredded!
Alex Einz
He probably didnt perform well enough and she got upset....
602miko
@ 30 mins molesting wow thats pretty much longer ! enjoyed ! >>>> both!
Richard bHard
30 mins of groping ???? sounds like a date and he was going for 3rd bass!