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Man shot in Kobe in apparent gang feud

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This is between them. At least this guys don’t kill anyone randomly because they wake up one morning with the need to kill a stranger on the street.

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what’s still surprising is that all major politicians, PM included, are also big on Yakuza’s payroll. Otherwise the Japanese Mafia would have been eradicated decades ago.

And your proof for this is? You clearly don't know much about the Yakuza if you think that's how things came to be. Japanese police realized that it's better to have a group that can control the petty thieves and stop foreign crime syndicates influence than not. Its a mutual toleration. Try and wipe out the Yakuza and watch the triads gallantly stride into Japan. The only people who can control criminals are criminals. The Yakuza provides this balance and the police leave them alone. That is, until it becomes something that affects normal citizens.

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Otherwise the Japanese Mafia would have been eradicated decades ago.

Everywhere has mafia no matter what they do except maybe tiny authoritarian states such as Singapore. You got to be living in a dreamland to think the mafia can simply be eradicated. Japan has chosen a more tolerant path toward its mafia sure. It beats the hell out of creating a never ending war zone like some countries have. One yak shooting another yak every few years is a hell of a lot better than what a lot of countries have for thinking if they just squeeze a bit harder all problems will be solved.

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Police or Federal Police (or equivalent) are more than capable of taking out any Yakuza, Triads or other Mafia groups if they would really wanted too.

Not without killing a lot of innocent people in the process. And there a lot of people who simply don't care about that I know. And also no concept of the fact that others will rise up to take the place of the fallen gangs, or perhaps, a sincere hope they do so the shooting can start again.

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Perhaps what you mean is that, "Everywhere has Mafia, except those places where the authoritarian State is the Mafia"?

Putin's Russia is perhaps another example. I read he's been emptying the Russian jails and allowing or "encouraging" them all to get out and go to Israel and the US.

Another example of how Japan is largely blessed by having a homogenous and not diverse society, limiting the possibility of more such foreign criminal networks to free move and operate within.

Better the devil you know and has an office building with a plaque on the outside ...

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the suspected gunman opened fire and fled on a moped.

WOW! That must have been some moped. Suzuki and Honda should look into what he had, it was clearly a very fast moped.

I can see it now, the all new 2020 Honda Yakuza! Now you can commit drive by shootings without problem!

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The Yakuza is where we send our unruly youth, where they are subject to a very severe discipline.

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As long as the yakuza keep it quiet and don't interfere too much with the population, the police will let them be. For example, in case of a crime the yazuka bosses will typically send the culprit to the police. Once they step out of line, the police will act. For example, kudo-kai, the strongest gang in Kita-Kyushu became too aggressive, many shootings, grenades, even a racket launcher. That city was becoming some little Chicago. Last year if I remember correctly, the police got pissed, and now all top 10 bosses are in prison. The kudo-kai guys now drive Priuses!

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Same as last time a unmarked police car is parked outside the perps office with the lights flashing and two armed and wearing body armor police men standing with arms crossed looking sternly at the office. Purely for public consumption nothing will change just get told to tone it down.

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Andreea quote: “This is between them. At least this guys don’t kill anyone randomly because they wake up one morning with the need to kill a stranger on the street.”

When I lived there forty years ago the people in that area lived in palpable fear that their house/family would one day get hit by a stray bullet.

It sure sounds as if nothing at all has changed.

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So, a Shin-Yamaguchi Gumi member shot the Yamaguchi-gumi member, or was it the shin-shin-shin Yamaguchi Gumi? The names are so original you kind of lose track.

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They got some Kobe beef going on there.

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No skin off my nose as long as the mobsters shoot each other.

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Smithinjapan

The Japanese gangs lack originality in their names. Yes, I think you finally have a valid complaint regarding Japan.

Being an bitter old English teacher isn’t a good one.

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This is between them. At least this guys don’t kill anyone randomly because they wake up one morning with the need to kill a stranger on the street.

Yes, they perpetrate drugs, sexual slavery, extortion, and shoot bullets in the street for profit (no skin off your nose if you're lucky enough not to have it ricochet in the direction of your sniffer), but at least you ain't no yankee!

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Is true that the yakuza does keep Japan underword in line. You would always have crime groups no matter which country you are in. But the yakuza and the police came to understanding for decades. This is how the police keep control of drugs and weapons from flooding the markets. Also the yakuza usually can catch those that goes out of line faster for the police. Especially criminals who are in the run from the police and are hiding. Yakuza might not be what we want, but they make sure other crime groups doesn’t come to japan. Problem is that the yakuza members are in the thousands and most are everyday workers. So is not exactly easy to solve them even if the police want too. Most of them try to go legit now these days anyway. Trust me, is better to have a familar group under observation then removing them and getting a whole new group who you know nothing about and is unpredicatable.

This thing is literally done in all countries but only Japan does it openly like this. If you think other countries the police and criminal groups doesn’t come to some agreements then you are just being naive and living in a dream world.

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Hiro

The notion that Yakuza are also keeping stuff civil and “catching criminals the cops can’t” is also a bit ludicris.

Criminal groups and authorities of course intersect, thats human nature.

It doesn’t mean though, that you need gangsters out keeping the peace.

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