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Man suspected of filming up girl’s skirt jumps to death from 20th-floor apartment

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A 52-year-old man who was suspected of filming up a 15-year-old girl’s skirt last month apparently jumped to his death from the balcony of his 20th-floor apartment in Nakano, Tokyo, on Tuesday.

According to police, the incident occurred at around 6 a.m. Police had arrived at the apartment building to question the man, Sankei Shimbun reported. They spoke to him on the intercom at the entrance and asked him to let them in.

The man asked police to wait while he got dressed. After they didn’t hear from him again, police used a master key to enter the building and went up to the man’s apartment. When they entered his apartment, the man had jumped from the balcony and landed on a third-floor roof covering the courtyard.

He was taken to hospital where he was confirmed dead.

Police said the man surfaced as a suspect when store surveillance camera footage showed him using his smartphone to film up the girl’s skirt in a bookstore in Machida on July 24.

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There are lots of news of people jumping bail or suiciding rather than being detained.

Citizens are really terrorized by LE.

14 ( +21 / -7 )

good riddance

-20 ( +13 / -33 )

Wow! Killing himself instead of taking a suspended sentence. Do the crime do the [deep] time. Pretty sad.

21 ( +22 / -1 )

He'd rather die than facing the responsibility....sad and pathetic

5 ( +20 / -15 )

That's why we have pornhub.

28 ( +32 / -4 )

None of us walked in either's shoes. Judge not...

5 ( +16 / -11 )

This may be counterintuitive, but university students have told me the when they travelled on the train at high school, they used to pull up their skirts. Why, you may well ask. The explanation is that chikan go for the frumpy, quiet looking girls as they are more likely to stay quiet, say nothing. A girl in a short skirt is much more likely to shout, grab the chikan's hand or even hit him.

Girls dress more aggressively for protection. The short skirt discourages rather than encourages chikan. However, that may not be the case with voyeurs.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

Women and girls: "What should I wear today so that I don't get molested?"

Men and boys: "What's clean that Mummy/Wifey has ironed for me?"

-8 ( +16 / -24 )

Actually I read some while ago that girls that dress modestly are at a larger risk of being groped, rather than the sexy ones.

And this is not meant to further encourage the rabid feminists on this site.

5 ( +12 / -7 )

There are people who get their kicks filming up girls' skirts and then there are some who get theirs from getting a rise from _____ people on internet forums.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

To the people who are saying that women who dress provocatively deserve to get molested...

There have been studies done that show that women who do dress provocatively are the least likely to get molested. The ones most likely to be targeted are the ones who are dressed modestly... who look like they won't cause trouble if they're groped.

Makes sense, though. Most of these perverts are cowards who don't want women fighting back or causing a scene. Thus... young girls/teens dressed in conservative uniforms are most at risk, and women who look like they might cause trouble are avoided.

It's not the victim's fault. It is NEVER the victim's fault.

5 ( +11 / -6 )

I feel sorry for him. He must have felt shame deeply but the crime is not on such a level he should have felt committing suicide was the answer.

good riddance

Beyond heartless, this is just evil. While I am happy to see so many down votes for it, too many are on the border of agreeing. There is no sense acting like he raped her, killed her, or brutalized her in any way. He never laid a hand on her and it seems all he got to see was her underwear, something people get an accidental glimpse of every single day. Yet some act like its the crime of the century. Why?

8 ( +15 / -7 )

it seems all he got to see was her underwear, something people get an accidental glimpse of every single day. 

Yeah but at what cost to the girl whose privacy is being violated by an old man?

It’s not what the perpetrator “gets” that should matter, it’s the impact upon their victims.

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I would not blame the poor guy. I would rather blame the girl who wore a skirt. I am sure that it was quite a mini skirt which would make any man eager. Even in the trains the man is blamed for groping(chikan). But I would rather blame the girls who purposely wear mini skirts and skimpy clothes to put the men in trouble

Let me guess, you a member of ISIS or the Taliban?

Only fanatics could come up with an excuse like this and then feel sorry for the guy too! I sincerely hope you never have any kids who grow up thinking like this.

16 ( +18 / -2 )

The cops at 6:00 am? Following a tip from a bookstore?

It is quite possible that the guy was a middleman, selling images to some shadowy organization. Fear of his family knowing might be one thing, but fear of the Y and what they would do if he spilled the beans under police questioning could have been a larger factor in his decision to jump.

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

The cops at 6:00 am? 

Common police strategy in Japan. They do it regularly. Suspects are usually home and half asleep.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

Looks like he was guilty.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

At least he had the courtesy not to Train Jump.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Cowardly scumbag. Good riddance.

-5 ( +8 / -13 )

Men and boys: "What's clean that Mummy/Wifey has ironed for me?"

and your point is....?

1 ( +10 / -9 )

Wow, a radical decision. He did not consider that apolozing, being embarrassed, and changing his ways might be enough?

7 ( +7 / -0 )

Innocent until proven guilty people. He was a sick individual yes, but did he deserve death for what he did?

0 ( +7 / -7 )

I bet he had stuff in his flat that could incriminate him further. Most sexual offenders are serial offenders.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

Most of these perverts are cowards who don't want women fighting back or causing a scene. Thus... young girls/teens dressed in conservative uniforms are most at risk, and women who look like they might cause trouble are avoided.

It's not the victim's fault. It is NEVER the victim's fault.

No it is NEVER the victim's fault. There is a fetish for girls in short skirts and school uniforms but that still is no excuse. This guy was a sick pervert, simple as that.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

Maybe he was just trying to escape and fell.

0 ( +5 / -5 )

Pukey2 - That's why we have pornhub.

How do you think those upskirt videos show up on that site?

12 ( +12 / -0 )

This guy was a sick pervert, simple as that.

By todays standards maybe. Historically a young woman of 15 would be married and pregnant.

So sick, that is a moral judgement. Perversion is also a moral judgement.

Sad it ended this way, he is also some mother's son.

-7 ( +2 / -9 )

shortcut?one hentai less...

2 ( +3 / -1 )

By todays standards maybe.

No, there is no maybe about it. It's been baked into law that this is an illegal perversion, as society has dictated it's unacceptable. By today's standards, this guy is a sick pervert. Period.

Historically a young woman of 15 would be married and pregnant.

Historically, you may have been raped and murdered by marauders, or even the lord of your own manner, while working in your field one day.

History is not present.

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StrangerlandToday  11:21 am JST

it seems all he got to see was her underwear, something people get an accidental glimpse of every single day. 

Umm...every single day? I have no idea how that could possibly happen. It sounds like a rare occasion to me.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

This is awful ! Poor man .

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

Hmm...the automatic reference was wrong.

@Vanessa Carlisle (11:16 am) would be correct.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

StrangerlandToday  11:21 am JST

it seems all he got to see was her underwear, something people get an accidental glimpse of every single day. 

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Umm...every single day? I have no idea how that could possibly happen. It sounds like a rare occasion to me.

I didn't say that.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

This guy was a sick pervert, simple as that.

Yes, you are probably right. But there's no inherent reason to call people who are e.g. engaged in "non-orthodox" bedroom activities with any other name... Yet due to illogical social dynamics, that kind of thing is accepted as someone's private business.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

It's been baked into law that this is an illegal perversion, as society has dictated it's unacceptable

Sorry for the previous unexpected false reference, but morality actually supersedes law. E.g. some kind of sick tyrannies could have all kinds of deranged laws (as a general comment, not anyhow alluding to that peeping issue), but these laws don't have any authority whatsoever to determine the essence of morality.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

Sorry for the previous unexpected false reference, but morality actually supersedes law.

Well no, they are different things that often overlap, and law is regularly influenced by morality. Deciding for example that we are very intolerant of adults sleeping with our minors, with few exceptions. Statutory rape laws did not always exist, they're a situation where the law was influenced by morality.

E.g. some kind of sick tyrannies could have all kinds of deranged laws (as a general comment, not anyhow alluding to that peeping issue), but these laws don't have any authority whatsoever to determine the essence of morality.

These laws are born of morality.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Well no, they are different things that often overlap, and law is regularly influenced by morality.

In an ideal context, for sure. But at least for a religious person, the (Western) society is actually full of legally acceptable perversions, because in the end, it's pretty much just a subjective classification (unless it's directly derived from a supernatural authority, such as God).

In addition, there are countries around the world, where the legal age is actually 21, while some others allow more "adult" privileges already since the age of 16. This threshold has a scientific basis only to a certain degree.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

(Western) society is actually full of legally acceptable perversions

We’re not talking about legally accepted perversions, we’re taking about explicitly illegal perversions, that were made illegal in like with the morality of society. Remember, we didn’t used to have these laws, because at the time we didn’t consider it to be immoral. They are laws that were born of the changing morality of our species.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

there are countries around the world, where the legal age is actually 21, while some others allow more "adult" privileges already since the age of 16. This threshold has a scientific basis only to a certain degree.

These laws follow morality as much as science.

If we were going purely by science, the age would be 25, when the logic centres of the brain are fully developed.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

His crime sounds small compared to his demise . . . . He should have been referred to counseling.

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StrangerlandToday  11:21 am JST

it seems all he got to see was her underwear, something people get an accidental glimpse of every single day. 

Er.... seriously, every single day? I wonder where you hang out.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

52 yo filming 15 years old girls, how do they know the girls ages? at his age someone would think he must be sick and in need of some serious mental help .

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

The shame must have been unbearable. It’s easy to criticize a guy and what he did was definitely wrong and sick, but it’s nothing worth losing your life over and nothing worth putting your family and love ones to do that, it would’ve been better for him to take the suspended sentence and pay a fine and not do that again, but as outsiders it is easy for us to judge, but we don’t know what was in his head. As away I just don’t think he needed to have jumped to his death.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

StrangerlandToday  11:21 am JST

it seems all he got to see was her underwear, something people get an accidental glimpse of every single day. 

Er.... seriously, every single day? I wonder where you hang out.

This is the second time someone has quoted me for this statement that was not made by me.

That said, I do see girls panties almost every day, having a wife and a daughter. The former being obsessed with doing laundry.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

By that benchmark homosexual sex is a perversion?

Actually, I'm not going to get into what's a perversion or not. I personally have some "perversions". A perversion is just something that someone less kinky than you is surprised at. And there are some extremely vanilla people out there.

Or did the perversion suddenly become moral? I bet you watch porn.

I really have no idea what you're on about. In Japan, there are no laws explicitly outlawing homosexuality. Neither do your points have any relevance whatsoever to the fact that law is often crafted to follow evolving social morals.

Which is why we see that some countries have backed homosexuality into their laws, due to those countries adjusting their moral compass, and adjusting the law to follow in line.

But really, I have no idea why you think this has anything to do with the fact that society has deemed statutory rape to be rape.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Innocent until proven guilty people. He was a sick individual yes, but did he deserve death for what he did?

Seems to me, he played, judge, jury, and executioner ALL on his own!

He made the choice, so what do you suggest, try him anyway after the fact?

4 ( +4 / -0 )

He was a sick individual yes, but did he deserve death for what he did?

I'm not sure how this question is relevant, as he wasn't murdered, he decided he was ready to die, and killed himself.

So I guess he deserved to be able to do what he wanted to do.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

ZaphodAug. 5  09:26 pm JST

StrangerlandToday  11:21 am JST

it seems all he got to see was her underwear, something people get an accidental glimpse of every single day. 

Er.... seriously, every single day? I wonder where you hang out.

A few years ago I went to a Heart and Joan Jett show and my group was next to a family, and I just happened to be seated next to a 10 or 11 y/o girl excited to be at her first concert. When JJ was playing I heard this cheering and lo and behold that girl was standing on the armrests! I saw her shoes on the seat arms, she had on a white minidress but I sure as hell didn't gaze up there. I ain't that type of guy. Her dad told her to sit back back down and thankfully she did so, w/o assistance, by herself w/o getting hurt. I'm glad for her sake she did.

'Accidental glimpse'? When I saw that overenthusiastic little girl standing like that, sure it could be an 'accidental' situation but I was more concerned for her safety. I made sure I didn't a glimpse 'up there'. And this 52 y/o joker ain't nothing but a pervert. His behavior is just inexcusable.

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And there are some extremely vanilla people out there.

Yep, you can be sure about that. Haters gonna hate (as my few previous downvotes probably suggest) but there ARE definitely people around (especially in Japan), who deliberately refrain from intimate relations, in order to stay emotionally pure and to protect their conscience from all the deranged kinks of the moral hypocrites.

A truly respectable person stays at least reasonably respectable also in the bedroom, otherwise he/she is just a brazen con artist (in case he/she pretends to be a dignified person in public). But if that person is upfront about those kinks, then it's an extenuating circumstance.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

Yes, you are probably right. But there's no inherent reason to call people who are e.g. engaged in "non-orthodox" bedroom activities with any other name... Yet due to illogical social dynamics, that kind of thing is accepted as someone's private business.

Shouldn't have to state the obvious, but if the act involves two consenting adults and is done in private, then yes it is private business. If the act involves taking advantage of a minor in public, it is clearly not private business.

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A truly respectable person stays at least reasonably respectable also in the bedroom, otherwise he/she is just a brazen con artist (in case he/she pretends to be a dignified person in public).

That’s a very vanilla outlook.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

bass4funk: "The shame must have been unbearable. It’s easy to criticize a guy and what he did was definitely wrong and sick, but it’s nothing worth losing your life over"

It's not like he was sentenced to death, bass, or like he was shot and killed by police in an everyday American-style "arrest", HE decided to take his own life. There are too many people in this world to actually care about than to have any pity for this scumbag.

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Actually I read some while ago that girls that dress modestly are at a larger risk of being groped, rather than the sexy ones.

Was his victim "sexy"? Does it really matter what victims wear?

And this is not meant to further encourage the rabid feminists on this site.

Ditto the incels and misogynists.

I'd rather see him in jail, but in the end, it was his choice to end his life.

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Shouldn't have to state the obvious, but if the act involves two consenting adults and is done in private, then yes it is private business.

I was actually talking about the essence of the term "perversion", which doesn't have any inherent connection with illegality or public displays.

In other words, there are just legal P's and illegal P's, but the acts of those legal P's are pushed under the rug by using that bogus phrase of "private business", to muddy the waters.

Yet a non-public setting doesn't make those sexual acts any less perverse. (I'm trying not to be too explicit, to keep it as family-friendly as possible).

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

That’s a very vanilla outlook.

Aka it's the actual meaning of dignity and personal integrity, which the (modern) society has pretty much collectively decided to eradicate, given that it would make the majority of people feel ashamed and guilty about their personal weaknesses.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Girls' skirts are so short, just film legally

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

The trash took itself out, good riddance. I wish more sexual predators would do the same rather than continue to torture innocent women and children like a bunch of disgusting animals.

I'm also shocked at the amount of people who have sympathy for this pedophile, especially other women trying to downplay his actions. This country is already rampant with sex offenders; I consider one less a good thing. One less predator that women and children have to wake up every day and worry about being violated and abused by. And I say children because the victim here was 15- that's MIDDLE SCHOOL in Japan. He sexually violated a CHILD and people here are trying to make excuses for him.

If he was tried in court should he have been given the death penalty? Of course not. But a lengthy sentence, mandatory therapy, registered as a sex offender and required to stay 100m away from all schools would be a good start. He chose to take his own life though and I'm sure his victims and other women can breath a sigh of relief that we have one less predator in this horribly misogynistic society that continues to excuse rape and sexual assault on its women and children.

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