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Mother, 2 young children found dead in apparent murder-suicide in Nara

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Police in Nara City said a mother and her two young children were found dead at their home on Wednesday in an apparent murder-suicide.

The bodies of the 30-year-old woman and her two daughters, aged 3 and 1, were discovered at around 7 a.m. after the girls’ father returned home from work, Sankei Shimbun reported.

According to police reports, all three were already dead, with the mother collapsed in a hallway on the second floor and the children in the bathroom. Police said there were no signs of external injury on the bodies.

The woman had previously consulted with police in May about her worries concerning child-rearing.  

Police said autopsies will be conducted to determine how the three died.

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were discovered at around 7 a.m. after the girls’ father returned home from work

So the dad worked all night? Mother must have been exhausted, but that is no excuse. Poor children.

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It sounds, sadly, like this woman was thrust into an untenable situation, and even reached out for help at least once.

Another reminder that lifescript isn't and shouldn't be for everyone, if you don't feel like you can have kids or truly want them, don't have them. It's not a choice you can back out of easily, if there is any chance you would regret it.

Honestly unless you are absolutely 100% positive you want kids, you probably shouldn't.

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The woman had previously consulted with police in May about her worries concerning child-rearing.  

Why the police? I wonder what advice she was given, if any?

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Another child murdering Japanese woman, that's two stories from today. Getting out of control.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

Another child murdering Japanese woman, that's two stories from today. Getting out of control.

Heartless

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Heartless

agreed, she was selfish and heartless

5 ( +9 / -4 )

It’s ok because the games are on-news like this should not spoil our day!

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

Another child-murdering mother here. Kind of makes you hope there's a hell.

These people, if they have fallen so far, need to start with themselves in murder-suicide attempts.

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Is it all in the mind and self inflicted?

I mean how can women in developing countries cope with many children, but in developed countries struggle to the point that they need to end it all.

Crazy world.

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The woman had previously consulted with police in May about her worries concerning child-rearing. 

Are Japanese police experts in child rearing? This woman must have been pretty desperate if she went to the police, but sadly, there was likely no follow-up. Perhaps a "social services" division needs to play more of a role in this type of thing.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Cruel, cruel world. Many couples desperately sad as unable to conceive.

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Very sad and very unnecessary for these endings to happen. She needed help.

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Though I chose to stop at one sprog, friends tell me that two is not double but three times the work. This woman already had her hands full and was probably overwhelmed by the second. Unfortunately, in these days of the nuclear family, the “load” is not easily shared.

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I do not understand why go to Police! They are not child rearing cpecialists nor dieticians as there was a case of a mother phonning Police asking them what she should feed her children.

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The mother was probably left with the kids all day and night - just not anywhere near enough help.

I work at home and my wife still gets stressed out most days with a 3 and 5 year old!

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smithinjapanToday  06:44 pm JST

Another child-murdering mother here. Kind of makes you hope there's a hell.

These people, if they have fallen so far, need to start with themselves in murder-suicide attempts.

I'm guessing you have never experienced child-rearing. It's harder than what you may have seen in the movies.

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As I stated many times before, There is a special place in hell for all child killers, poor kids, too young to die, too young to understand, too early to leave, Japan has a problem with young mothers taking their own lives along with the children, it is Selfish, it is cruel and Evil. Can't just depart alone, have to inflect and much pain and suffering on the rest of the family, that is as selfish as they come.

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RIP little ones.

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Why the police? I wonder what advice she was given, if any?

Excellent question. I would hope it was something like, "Here's a list of organisations that can help you more than we can. Would you like me to call one of them for you?" A forlorn hope, most likely.

RIP, kids.

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The bodies of the 30-year-old woman and her two daughters, aged 3 and 1

So sad. The kids did not deserve that.

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"The woman had previously consulted with police in May about her worries concerning child-rearing."

"a list of organisations that can help you more than we can"--such alternatives non existent, both sides are covertly throwing in the towel. Rigid regimented prescribed solutions are only accepted. The U.S. has such "organizations", but the pandemic, is breaking them down, along with their society.

the handwriting is on the wall.... imo

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Police said there were no signs of external injury on the bodies.

The injuries are internal, such as hopelessness. I.E. there is an increase in heart Arrhythmia in people triggered by fear, helplessness, and declining hope for some. (esp. among young)

ref:

https://www.myjournalcourier.com/insider/article/Irregular-heart-rhythm-deaths-may-be-rising-16368044.php

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If you think the solution to your problems is to murder your children...

You are very much mistaken.

No excuses...

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I mean how can women in developing countries cope with many children, but in developed countries struggle to the point that they need to end it all.

Too much pressure, too many expectations, too many comparisons. There are different parameters, it is just the result of our modern society. Nothing else.

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Why in these articles people always give excuses for the woman? And then give her sympathy and not the actual victims. I'm a father and can't imagine such an act.

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And I’ll add:

Forget women of the past raising 5 to 10 kids.... 

No they didn’t. They either had extended family help with the childcare or mothers “deputised” their elder daughters who would take care of the younger siblings. My maternal grandmother took care of TWELVE siblings (her mother spend most of her time on her back), and carried her resentment with her to the grave.

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For those that dont understand why she went to the police: I have also told my wife if she ever needed any sort of help of any kind (and if i wasnt around), to go to the police and ask for help. (she looked at me like i was insane) I mistakenly assumed the koban would have contact numbers at hand for all of the issues that might arise while on duty. I totally misjudged the lack of common sense/training/thinking outside of the box/taking initiative of the police. Im pretty sure they gave that poor mother the same advice as the "old lady" that came to my house for the one month check-up after having a baby. The 70 year old asked my wife if she's been feeling down or run-down, to which my wife replied, "yes, it gets hard sometimes" Old lady told her to "brush it off/suck it up" and that it is normal to feel that way. My wife shut down after that and couldnt wait for her to leave. She is thinking about complaining to city hall. My wife was able to handle her lack of sympathy/giving good advice, but worries about the other mothers who might be having a much harder time dealing with postpartum depression. We dont have any family members or friends living in our city or close to us. Back in the days when that old lady was a young mother, she most likely had her mother/husband's mother and other family members helping her out, just like in those developing countries one poster was wondering about.

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Honestly unless you are absolutely 100% positive you want kids, you probably shouldn't.

Having children is one of the few choices are can never undo. You can sell your house, you can quit your job, you can get a divorce, you can move to the other side of the planet. But once you have kid, you can’t just decide you can’t handle it.

It.is.relentless. In all likelihood, all this woman wanted was her sleep back. And yes, if she feels like she is about to go under, it really is up to other family members to take up the slack while she seeks help.

The crying, the special meals, the sleepless nights, the huge expense, the physical and emotional toll - these are all things you sign up for and consent to when you bring another human into this world. Not understanding the hardships when you get pregnant is no excuse for failing to endure them. Ultimately, I don’t know this woman’s mental state. I don’t know if she had some pre-existing issues that led to this. I feel bad for all involved, but I reserve most of my compassion for the children and the father.

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Don’t report this! This is not news. It’s just planting seeds for other people who have the same ideation. It’s not worth commenting on, nobody needs to hear your RIPs etc. It’s irresponsible’journalism’ at best.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

If hell exists, I hope she's burning there right now! Crimes against children are unforgivable.

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It depends what kind of profession the father was in. If he was, say, an engineer at a bank he would have to work all night.

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"The only Japanese women who have any ambition and goals in life are the privileged who spent extensive time abroad."

Of course.

All women abroad have ambition and goals.

Only them!

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Do Japanese mens support their wife emotionally,i guess not ,this woman obvious has some mental issues,since lots of Japanese find it hard to confide too close friends or strangers,it not usually for people to confide to totally strangers,if something is burden them

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It is so sad that this mother had no one (friends, family, husband) she felt she could talk to, and I see this as a society (a cultural) issue. There is usually is a family welfare section in the local city hall that can help with counselling. It takes a lot of courage for mothers to seek help because seeking help is seen as an admission of failure. In my home country, failure is respected and encouraged because it is the best way to learn.

Introducing protective factors that encourage people's resilience can make a world of difference and can help people to develop it. A simple "hello" from the neighbours shows people care and can make a world of difference to someone feeling overwhelmed by life. We can all learn from this news and reach out today to someone by being kind and saying hello.

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In all the above comments, I only saw two that offered some thought for the hell of the father; for what he came home to after working all night. RIP to the little ones. Much sympathy to the father, who will have to live with what his wife has done, forever.

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The Japanese news has different information and it is more confusing. According to that news, the husband returned home at 7:00pm but didn't have his key. The door was locked, he knocked but got no answer so he left and slept somewhere else. Then he returned the next morning broke in and found the dead bodies. I wonder if there was more domestic problems going on here. Why upon returning home did the husband assume they were out and just go elsewhere if he had no message or information? Why return the next morning and break in? I find the husbands actions a bit suspicious.

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This 3-year-old child could probably understand what her mom tried to do. Poor girl.

Unforgivable. No excuse.

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