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Mother arrested over death of 4-year-old daughter

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Saitama prefectural police have arrested a 42-year-old unemployed woman on suspicion of killing her four-year-old daughter in December. 

According to police, Mami Suzuki, who was arrested on Monday, strangled her daughter Haruha to death at their residence on the evening of Dec 20, Sankei Shimbun reported. When Suzuki’s husband, 40, returned home, he discovered the two collapsed on the floor and contacted the police. 

Police said Suzuki had a knife wound to her neck, which they believe was self-inflicted. She and her daughter were taken to hospital where the child died on Dec 26.

Police said Suzuki has admitted to killing her daughter and then trying to kill herself. She told police she had become distressed over raising Haruha.

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Tragic.

This lady deserves the presumption of innocence.

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Police said Suzuki has admitted to killing her daughter and then trying to kill herself. She told police she had become distressed over raising Haruha.

This lady deserves the presumption of innocence.

Um... what?

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Um... what?

Suzuki hasn’t been adjudicated guilty in a court of law, ergo, the presumption of innocence stills stands. Throw in the fact that police in Japanese force confessions, and Suzuki’s presumption of innocence is that much more important to protect.

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I don’t think you need to presume anything. Unless you’re implying that the husband framed her, it seems pretty clear cut she’s guilty

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Suzuki hasn’t been adjudicated guilty in a court of law, ergo, the presumption of innocence stills stands. Throw in the fact that police in Japanese force confessions, and Suzuki’s presumption of innocence is that much more important to protect.

Of course the presumption of innocence applies to everyone in the criminal law process including her, but what exactly is the point of bringing that up here? The facts as described in the article don't really lend themselves to any realistic alternative theories of the crime.

I don't see how this would be a case of a false confession. She was found collapsed on the floor with a stab wound in her neck. If someone else had done it then she would be a victim and probably either she would have said "I was stabbed by somebody" or there would have been physical evidence to support that. But she said "I did it".

Bear in mind she has only just been arrested, which means she didn't make that confession after days of being subjected to intense interrogation methods without a lawyer present, which is almost always the case when the police are found to have elicited a false conviction. Also the crime itself happened 3 months ago, during which she was not in police custody and does not seem to have said anything about anyone else stabbing her and strangling her 4 year old daughter.

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It takes a pretty callous person to strangle a four-year old with their bare hands.

And another to defend someone who has already confessed to said child killing.

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A few months later we will hear that she got sentenced to 2 years in prison...

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Mental illness.

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Mental illness.

Is it? Because this is happening far too often in Japan compared to other OECD countries. I find the Japanese family life in general pretty barbarian and I find most people in a family setting lacking any and all kind of conflict resolution / social skills. Just like in all other parts of life, Japanese people seem to be only capable to follow guidelines. But I think this is a general education/attitude problem, not necessarily a mental problem.

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It takes a pretty callous person to strangle a four-year old with their bare hands.

And another to defend someone who has already confessed to said child killing.

Oh, so to give someone "presumption of innocence" (with a possibly forced confession - we all know how that works in this country!) is now the same as to "defend" them?

Poor baby, poor mother, poor father -- no matter what the circumstances, it's tragic this ghastly action wasn't averted by getting this family help. Too often, it's much easier to criticize & blame afterwards than reaching out beforehand.

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The facts as described in the article don't really lend themselves to any realistic alternative theories of the crime.

You’re assuming these are the complete set of facts.

Bear in mind she has only just been arrested, which means she didn't make that confession after days of being subjected to intense interrogation methods without a lawyer present, which is almost always the case when the police are found to have elicited a false conviction. 

You’re assuming that you know what tactics the police used to interrogate the accused.

Too many assumption to be using to judge someone quilty.

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It's completely self inflicted pressure though isn't it? How difficult can it be just to sit the child Infront of the TV? Or give it a tablet to pay with? My wife gets so upset when she can't make our daughter do what the internet says she should be able to do.

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You’re assuming these are the complete set of facts.

No, I know that there are more facts and those reported in the article are not complete. What I am saying is that with what facts we do know I have trouble coming up with an alternative theory of what happened, which is what we would need if what you are implying (her confession was false and she didn’t do it) to be true.

You’re assuming that you know what tactics the police used to interrogate the accused.

This is public knowledge. Former prosecutors have detailed these in interviews, and they have also come out in court cases where wrongful convictions have been overturned. Is it possible they have some secret false conviction ray gun they invented that we don’t know about? Yeah, I guess, but that is pretty thin. Again, she could not have been subjected to a lengthy interrogation and she may have even confessed before being arrested (speaking of someone assuming facts, we don’t know from the article when she first confessed).

Logically this really doesn’t seem like a case where a forced confession would be something the police would go after. She was stabbed in the neck for crying out loud. There actually is a wrongful conviction case in which Japanese police did elicit a false conviction from a mother for killing her child, which is a horrifying story (the child died in an accidental fire, not by murder). But the circumstances of this case are massively different from that one.

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Strangling a 4 year old? Insane and obscene. Put the mother away for life.

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