Ibaraki woman held after slamming 2-yr-old daughter’s head into floor

Unbe-friggin-lievable.

she would not stop crying I wonder why? This woman should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, there is no excuse for this sort of behavior.

Kids taking care of kids. Last time I checked this is torture. A jury would crucify you in the US then off to the booty house for 10. An attempted murder charge but........ things are quite different here in Japan. I hope the girl comes thru.

moreover... children need to cry as their minds are growing. My own son nearly the same age does and we hug him & hold him. I have read a few books about the need to as they have bad dreams and literally need to cry them out (stress too). Kid was more than likely dreaming of her monster mother. This case I will try and follow to see if they throw the book at her and the kid pulls thru. What a peice of human s'&% and my guess thousands of 23 or 13 yr old Moms do this.

This is why Japanese folks need to be taught about birth control. Sounds like dekichatta to me. Unfit mother to say the least.

What the hell is wrong with some people?!?!? The "mom" should be prosecuted for abuse and the "dad" negligence, for letting it happen.

Where's her 37-year old husband? Is he that typical 'mother-kon' J man, translated as 'childish as the 23-year old wife'...

I am really mad about news like this..the woman deserves a severe punishment. The Japanese law must change..!

I hope that poor kiddie recovers. She should be sterilised like all child abusers, peadophiles and child killers.

she may have been knocked up when she was 20 by a 34 year old guy. Nightmare for her if so but it does not say if the guy is the kids father. He may have taken her in for all we know when she was alone with child. Obviously she resents the child for some reason. I hope the child can recover but its doubtful. She should be sent to prison and sterilized.

What the hell is a "de facto" husband? Is that the Japanese way of saying "common law" husband? Or the fact that he is her "real" husband but he is never around?

I also have a 2 year old daughter and reading stories like these definitely bring out some strong emotions. To say the least.

S

I wonder if the mother learned this child modification technique when she was a child.

My god, its like being born in Japan is like a death sentence for some..

hmmm...must make baby stop crying. oh! let's slam her head on the floor! that will make her quiet?

i wonder what their tv remote looks like...

Where's her 37-year old husband?

Probably hiding under the bed, hoping he's not the next one victim of this woman's wrath.

Why can't I ever witness any of this blatant, public abuse? Hell hath no fury - is all I can say. I may end up in jail, but at least it would be at the cost of saving a young child and the satisfaction of seeing the abuser lying on the ground in a puddle of their OWN blood - not the kids.

Friggin' rejects.

I can not hold my tears. I have raised 6 children and they did cry and drove crazy at times. But I did go outside and took a quick break rather than taking it on the kids. Children are to be protected, not harmed.

From what I see, Japanese do not like to father children from other parents when they are in live-in relationships. I guess killing them is their solution.

...one resident of the apartment block telling police that she thought the child had been put outside crying in the middle of the night. Another resident said she was woken up by some thumping sounds which she thought sounded like someone jumping.

Hey, thanks neighbor! No reason to suspect anything. Roll over and go back to sleep.

JapanHusker

Why can't I ever witness any of this blatant, public abuse?

Because the incompetent rejects don't do it when others are watching. -But I agree. I'd also love the chance to intervene.

Serious question: I know Japanese people aren't white, but is there an equivalent word for "white trash" in Japanese?

spidey, "de facto" is the phrase we use to describe a common law marriage in New Zealand as well, and I suspect in a few other English speaking countries. It's a Latin phrase, not a Japanese phrase.

What a totally dreadful story. By the way, I'm British and never heard the expression "de facto husband" before. Thanks Aspara for the explanation.

Sorry for typo - Apsara!

The meaning and origin of the word "de facto" was not the problem. It was the usage of it in the article that I was questioning. And in Canada, "de facto" is never used in this context.

S

Moderator: Readers, please do not get bogged down on the term "de facto." Please focus your comments on the story.

Taking away the baby and sending her to a hard labor camp would be the appropriate thing to do but she's going to get away with it sadly

Here's a suggestion:

Hang her, except not upside-down, and by the neck...and also using a rope. Oh, and don't let her slam into the ground.

like a baby will know that slamming its head against the concrete means stop crying

Why didn`t the neighbor call the cops when the child was put outside in the middle of winter at night? BECAUSE, they are Japanese and do not want to get involved. This whole country is sometimes based on putting your head in a hole.

Yelants: The expression is; 'Tannin no mondai desu wa. Uchi, kanke nai desuyou'. Such is the nature of this see all, know all, do nothing society.

They only get involved if the perpetrator is a foreigner inflicting injury on a Japanese.

If Martians eat other Martians, they do not really care.

"Why didn`t the neighbor call the cops when the child was put outside in the middle of winter at night?"

Probably because they didn't know! I wonder what some of you would do if you heard a strange sound outside your apartment. Leap out of bed and save whatever the problem is? Or do what most people do which is think it is a bump in the night, roll over and go back to sleep? I pick option B unless I can hear someone screaming. My neighbours have a newborn and I certainly don't call the cops or assume the worst when the kid won't stop crying. Why? Babies/kids cry.

tmarie - perhaps if you read the article before you comment

tmarie at 04:14 PM JST - 3rd February "Why didn`t the neighbor call the cops when the child was put outside in the middle of winter at night?" "Probably because they didn't know! ...Or do what most people do which is think it is a bump in the night, roll over and go back to sleep? I pick option B unless I can hear someone screaming. "

FROM THE ARTICLE:

"Police allege that Sachiko Amagai shook her daughter up and down, hitting her head on the floor several times at around 3 a.m. Monday. "

"with one resident of the apartment block telling police that she thought the child had been put outside crying in the middle of the night."

" Another resident said she was woken up by some thumping sounds which she thought sounded like someone jumping. "

Okay, time for CSI: 3 a.m., child outside screaming at 3 a.m., child outside screaming at 3 a.m. followed by several loud thumps and then silence - and you would roll over and go back to bed.

Sounds like another Japan Apologist here...

it is pathetic but so it is in japan.the mother is a kid ,how can she take of another kid.i think they are old at 30 not 20.The crazy father ,i suppose,looked on helpless.the guys here are nuts maybe newhalf's.

where was dad? this woman was obviously having troubles dealing with her kid, dad should have seen it and made provisions. doesnt matter if he is 'defacto' (love that;) or not. if he moved in, he signed up for the job. this putting all the pressure on mom to be the perfect june cleaver needs to stop.

was walking with my inlaws the other day as they were pushing their kid. she followed him dutifully as he strolled ahead looking so majestic. we hit a patch of gravel and I turned our stroller around to pull but she was not as adept and soon became bogged down. had I not sent him back for her, I am sure he would have waited till she struggled thru on their own.

he is not a bad guy at all, and I think he really wants to be a support to his family but there is something systemic there... all japanese are not the same but there is definitely a bent this way and unless it stops, these kinds of stories are going to continue to sadden us regularly.

I see child abuse here every day, however, a good old slap, punch, push are not considered abuse here. It's just parenting. I saw a woman slap her 8y/o boy across the face on the edge of a train platform the other day. She hit him so hard it knocked him over and nearly onto the track. These wombats act on impulse without any thought of consequence and it's always the kid that gets hurt. It's alright to say, there should be tougher penalties, but is that really the answer?

If anyone out there who used to read the bible, it is believed that crime amongst each other will multiply. What next? A baby slamming mommies head? All this crime against humanities and especially baby killers, the judgement will come soon for you too..lady needs the same thing done to her for punishment.

tie her tubes now, so she cant breed.. absolutely appauling.

damn, I'm 23 and I dont feel like slamming my kid on anything, putting him in a coin locker so me and my wife can eat dinner, or beating him to death for not saying itadakimasu.

When i was a kid, my uncle beat the sh!t out of our neighbor for beating his daughter. I mean, he heard the girl scream like hell, knocked on their front door, and took him out in the middle of the street, and beat the hell out of him. I understand hitting you kid for discipline, but BEATING your kid just means you are a f'ed up parent.

I see child abuse here every day, however, a good old slap, punch, push are not considered abuse here. It's just parenting. I saw a woman slap her 8y/o boy across the face on the edge of a train platform the other day. She hit him so hard it knocked him over and nearly onto the track. These wombats act on impulse without any thought of consequence and it's always the kid that gets hurt. It's alright to say, there should be tougher penalties, but is that really the answer?

Good post. Many Japanese parents/teachers/bosses seem to think discipline and physical violence are the same thing. Granted the article is an extreme case.

Japanese like to punish bad behavior as opposed to reward good behavior.

There are many good single mothers out there, not even in their 20s. If the woman cant cope then she should have seeked help. If that help is not available then the government is to take some of the blame too. Free childcare for any full time working mother is the answer, but Japan doesnt ask the question...

This mother mentioned is a 'Barbarian,' and should be punished with maximum sentence. Child should be given adaption to a good family that is unable to have children. Who knows perhaps next time she would kill poor ked. Yes, kids are crying when they are little. Every mother should be prepared for such situation, not just thinking of having children and all will be like in heaven. But it is not it is more like hell, until they go to school. Many mothers are loosing their marbles over children and even husbands. In marriage you have to taste bad and good. Sure children have to have discipline but not 'Barbaric way.' Love and enjoy your life with your children while they are little. Soon your children will grow up, and if you are good to them while they were little so will they be to you. Remember this: “WE ARE ALL PENCILS IN THE HAND OF GOD.”

“WE ARE ALL PENCILS IN THE HAND OF GOD.”

BBLeo please do not include "me" in this silliness... I am not of the same make as this horrible Japanese person !

child care in and of itself will do nothing to assist an immature mother in assimilating the skills necessary to take care of herself and her baby. to the contrary, there is just as much of a possibility that it will reinforce the selfishness that is the root cause of these kinds of problems. there is virtually no foster care system here so there is virtually no way for child services to enforce abuse cases. this is a deep and convoluted problem that is going to need to be addressed on many levels starting with developing an understanding that foster care and adoption are signs of a mature society that values life. working at ways to make children become responsible for their actions would help as well. why would someone grow up any sooner than they had to if mom n dad paid everything thu college and society told you that you were a child till the age of 20? add to that, instilling a sense in the men that they are partners and responsible for lives that they create but in a society that has the highest abortion rate per capita in the world, that may be difficult. speaking of which, seems I read a bunch of posts the other day that free and on demand abortion stops cases like this by making sure all the kids are wanted. seems that premise has not born out here in japan. hate to bring it up but these are the kinds of things that a christian foundation instills in society and the absence of it and a mentality that the government is responsible for all will assure that things will worsen.

Damn, I guess bashing her head in on the concrete would eventually stop the baby from crying. And, I think "de facto 37-year-old husband" is a nice way to say she was living with a boyfriend who was 14 years older than her.

By the way, expect a suspended sentence because the judge will understand her stressful living situation.

This women would probaby have been shot while resisting arrest...............

Oh you guys are a riot! While I don't approve of what she did, matter of fact I think it's appaling. However, leave your god out of it and stop applying your standards to other people.

What is funny, Squally, is that all these idiots suggest this is a Japan thing...as if "Japanese" are horrible parents... hmmmmmmmmmm you ever been to the middle east? And I suppose letting your child run wild, as they do in the United States, is any better? Bottom line - bad & abusive parents are everywhere...not just in Japan. And I don't care what country you're from, you're country has the same crimes as Japan, if not worse (have yet to hear of a child walking into their school and shooting up the place with dads collection of automated weapons in Japan yet...oh that only happens in better countries like the United States).

Grow up you fools...

What would Darwin have concluded if he observed mothers in the animal world turning on their offspring and doing this kind of abuse to their young? Would their even be a theory of evolution? This social disease, this rot in the human soul, is a result of a wholesale divorce of humanity from the natural world. The promise of the material to bring happiness has come crashing down for millions worldwide. Hopefully, its a chance to examine what the hell we are doing to ourselves and others. Without nature their is no nurture; only meaningless lives devoid of the spiritual, perpetuating the myth of materialism, consumerism and banal urbanity to the next hapless generation.

? English doc.... The problem is simple - parents aren't parents. I was once told that when one decides to have children one decides to give up ones life... That is, you're life is no longer your own - you life is your children's. You give up everything to raise and nurture your child. You no longer have the freedom to do as you wish, but you now have the obligation to raise your children. The problem today is that parents want children but still want freedom to live their own lives... Parents still want to go clubbing, travel the world, out with friends, they want to be free... If you want to be free - DO NOT HAVE KIDS.

Now, the problem here is that this freedom includes promiscuity and, well, "accidents" happen....it's up to those people to make that decision - abort, give away or become "un-free" (i.e. parents).

DOn't starting talking Darwin unless you have read at least "2" of his ten books! And don't bring God into this this! I respect both! After all, Darwin was studying to be an Agelican priest.

Now back to the subject... She seems unhappy, and she is married to a 37 year old dude. I repsect the fact she called for an ambulance and owned up to what she did. She did those two things because she cares about her daughter. I hope she gets the help she needs. Her family could also pitch in! (If they haven't)!

JapanHusker, you don't have to be a Japan apologist to point out the obvious. In fact the idea that neighbors ignore seemingly suspicious behavior became clarified in a study originally done in the US in the 1970s.

People living in cities tend to do this more, quite unconsciously. You have to admit Japan is "fairly crowded.

But the most important point, if YOU read the article, ONE person heard the crying, and ANOTHER person heard the thumping. Maybe what we have here is not Japan apologist, but Japan basher. you.

I'm not an apologist here. I think what the woman did was despicable. Having said this though, I think everyone can understand the actions. Babies make so much noise, and that noise can easily get on your last nerve. However even though I understand the pressures of parenthood, it doesn't mitigate the crime. I sincerely hope she is severely punished for this.

"One resident of the apartment block teling police she thught the child had been put outside crying in the middle of the night"

But she didn't feel any need to call the police, the "mother" was the one who called them.

sydenham at 05:52 AM JST - 4th February JapanHusker, you don't have to be a Japan apologist to point out the obvious. In fact the idea that neighbors ignore seemingly suspicious behavior became clarified in a study originally done in the US in the 1970s. People living in cities tend to do this more, quite unconsciously. You have to admit Japan is "fairly crowded. But the most important point, if YOU read the article, ONE person heard the crying, and ANOTHER person heard the thumping. Maybe what we have here is not Japan apologist, but Japan basher. you.

WHATEVER. If YOU would have read the full post to which I was responding, YOU have read that the poster was defending the neighbors saying " "Probably because they didn't know! ...Or do what most people do which is think it is a bump in the night, roll over and go back to sleep? I pick option B unless I can hear someone screaming. "

My point, there WAS screaming and thumping and 2 different people heard it.

Learn to read, or at least comprehend English before pointing fingers a me - cuz they might get broken. APOLOGIST.

JapanHusker, if one person hears one thing and another hears another, how are they supposed to put the two together, ESP? Contrary to some claims, Japanese can't communicate THAT well without speaking.

How would you have reacted if you had been the neighbor? Like this?

"I hear bumping. It must be a child being slammed head-first into the concrete by her mother. I should call the police because if I don't some guy on JT is going to condemn all 126 million Japanese individuals as cold-hearted killing machines that treat their kids worse than animals."

I can read fine, and I can read you like a book. It makes you feel better to write off all Japanese as one and the same. That's called racism.

don't bring God into this this!

You hear that God?... Stay out of it!! Why should YOU care if a mother wopps her baby on the floor, or for that matter, dumps it in a toilet to die? Yup, that's what we need; less God, less humanity, less love, less life...more of the same.

Seems like the general idea of parenting here is ignore babies when they cry, then when they get about 1yr or so do everything possible to make them stop crying, like stuffing baby-senbei in their mouths, getting angry, etc. Sometimes kids cry, you have to find the reason. If it was a bad dream, stress, etc help them deal with it, if they are being brats and crying because they can't get their way, that's when you should ignore them, sit them in a chair facing a corner and tell them to come back when they can be good. And using candy as a rare treat when they are good instead of shoving it in their mouths 24/7.

fusedentropy

I agree with your comments 100%. You have the genius (or common sense) award of the day!

Another to agree with Fusedentropy: If two consenting adults want to have children, they are basically forsaking their single lives to be parents. It's really not optional. It's a requirement.

There are some people who just don't understand this. Now, this young girl (23) made this kid with an extremely older man (14 years counts as extremely), so I'm sure thee was pressure by both of them to basically not be a parent, and live normal "single" lives. And this probably pushed her to the boiling point after repeated abuse.

It would have been better for the child if they would have drive to the baby hatch, and left a note. Poor kid.

Ciao