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Mother-son pair cost hotels over ¥100 mil in no-shows

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Vince, do you refer to the designers of the Ikyu.com business model that made this hack possible?

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n some cases when a hotel forgets to notify the booking site of a cancellation, customers still receive points even in cases of a no-show.

Surprising how much of this happens in the hotel industry especially in Japan where the systems are outdated, information is not shared properly an industry is held to ransom by a few ancient systems..

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Take credit card details.... if no show, first night is charged.

Works in Europe pretty well.

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Good, more thank likely many of us tried to get reservations made but sold out and could not accommodate a room so more than likely ended up getting a higher cost room or change travel dates which is very inconvenient at times.

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Hotels will now begin asking guests to provide a credit card number when they book, something they should have done from the jump.

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This sounds like a civil matter (lawsuit), not a crime. Swearing is also a crime in some areas. Maybe we should enforce that too.

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Ulysses, et al:

The onus should be on the companies that do the booking and assigning points. They did not steal the points, they were given them - they were taking advantage of a loophole that the company left open. We've all had to cancel reservations before, this shouldn't be a crime. Civil matter (lawsuit by the company) at the most. This invites private companies with strong pulls of govt to entice prosecutors to arrest former customers.

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The onus should be on the companies that do the booking and assigning points. 

Wrong. The onus is on the thieves. Don't blame the victims.

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Tom young:

I respectfully disagree. Jeff Bezos of amazon, for example, is not a criminal, despite him also using a loophole in tax law to pay essentially 0 in taxes. By your definition, he is a thief too. I believe the onus is on the govts to eliminate loopholes in such a case. Its not fraud, its exploiting a legal loophole.

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Jumin Rhee, “Its not fraud, its exploiting a legal loophole”

Making accounts in fake names, making reservations for hotel rooms that they had no intention of using thereby obstructing the business operations of said hotels, and reaping profits from these activities would seem to go beyond exploiting a legal loophole. I certainly wouldn’t want to have any dealings with people of such low morals, nor those who make excuses for them.

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Jumin Rhee, “We've all had to cancel reservations before, this shouldn't be a crime.”

It isn’t a crime, and nobody has said it should be.

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Is it illegal to book a hotel? Is it illegal to cancel a booking? Is it illegal to acquire the points that's part of the booking?

We can have the same argument about eat-all-you-can and drink-all-you-can restaurants. What if I ate all of the food and drink all of the drinks? I abused the system, sure, but was it illegal?

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justasking,

“Is it illegal to book a hotel? Is it illegal to cancel a booking? Is it illegal to acquire the points that's part of the booking?”

Obstructing business is illegal.

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Thanks for the idea!

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If it wasn’t illegal, then why the need to use fake names.

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That's a lot of work just for some crummy points.

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I don't think they should be arrested, we need to stop always siding with the businesses. The business had a problem, they can fix it and suck up the costs.

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