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Deport !!!. Deport !!!. Deport !!!..

Not into the entire innocent until proven guilty doctrine, I see.

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HokkaidoBoy: The suspect hasn’t even been tried yet. Jumping the gun a bit.

27 ( +44 / -17 )

Cocaine, rape and covid infections. These olympics are off to a great start.

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Sure hope authorities throw the book at him if he is indeed guilty of rape.

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@girl_in_Tokyo

Women don't suddenly get a hankering to have sex voluntarily with men they only just met hours ago, in a public place, during their work hours. This does not happen.

Yes it definitely does. But maybe not for you.

Who gave you the right to speak for all women?

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If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

Women don't suddenly get a hankering to have sex voluntarily with men they only just met hours ago, in a public place, during their work hours. This does not happen.

I usually always wholheartedly agree with your posts, but to play devil's advocate here: a)women are actually capable of lying, it's not unheard of and b)nymphomaniacs and sex addicts are a thing that actually exists, it's not unheard of either.

I'm not saying any of these apply in this case, but the "women are always right and are angels pure as snow" trope is actually pretty counterproductive.

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He's a foreigner allegedly committing a crime at a high visibility event...they'll throw the book at him for sure regardless.

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JsapcToday 08:08 am JST

Cocaine, rape and covid infections. These olympics are off to a great start.

You forgot composer torturing disabled children (and then laughing about it).

United By Emotions indeed. Is disgust an emotion?

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RAPE???

Let us all remember that just because a person claimed he or she was raped does not mean it really happened. Often times people claim it but in reality it was not.

Let the investigators finish their job.

19 ( +38 / -19 )

This is an optics issue too. Putting aside the issue of innocence vs guilt, which should be determined according to the appropriate laws, just to have the headline "....accused of raping..." in the context of these games - which have had enough PR problems in the last couple of days to last for the entire fortnight - is yet more trouble for the organisers.

Even if the guy is found not guilty, the damage is already done. If he is found guilty, then that's yet another can of worms to be dealt with.

Course the government and IOC are now in full "Charge of the Light Brigade" mode anyway.

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I would like to remind everyone about the woman "did not resist " part. Unfortunately, most Japanese Woman when struck with fear, do not how to react. Do not know how to scream for help. Do not know how to kick, punch, fight for their lives. It happens way too often here, by Japanese Nationals as well!!

Perhaps this man knew he could exploit Japanese women by taking advantage of their silence. Or perhaps he just read the wrong signals Either way, he is doomed

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Olympics causimg all sorts of issues

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the police quoting him as saying the woman did not resist.

In Uzbekistan, that probably means consent.

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Women don't suddenly get a hankering to have sex voluntarily with men they only just met hours ago, in a public place, during their work hours. This does not happen

You should speak only for yourself.

12 ( +25 / -13 )

He probably learnt how to treat women from Borat Sagdiyev.

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> Retaining benefit of the doubt in favor of a rapist and not the victim.

Really?

Nope. 

If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

Toxic femininity at its finest.

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Retaining benefit of the doubt in favor of a rapist and not the victim.

Really?

Nope.

If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

Women don't suddenly get a hankering to have sex voluntarily with men they only just met hours ago, in a public place, during their work hours. This does not happen.

But a man raping a woman wherever and whenever he can get her into a place where she is vulnerable and no one can hear her cry out for help? This happens all the time, including in the workplace.

Guilty.

Yikes.

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If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

Women don't suddenly get a hankering to have sex voluntarily with men they only just met hours ago, in a public place, during their work hours. This does not happen.

You must probably been living or are living in a bubble. May be you don't but you will be surprised at the large number that do, most are too shy to take the initiative but when you give them a little opening they are in as fast as a hot knife inside butter.

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The suspect has denied the allegation, with the police quoting him as saying the woman did not resist. The two had never met before the incident.

Don't rush to be judgmental. Wait to see whether the case will be brought to the prosecutor and the court. Please respect due process.

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....I havent read a SINGLE post that is saying the woman is lying.....

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The guy need to be tried first before coming to any conclusion.

But him be a foreigner and she being a Japanese put that guy already in a big disadvantage.

Because in Japan justice is equal only between them.

One thing that is really worrying that this very unfortunate episode will only increase the gaijin witch hunt and enforce the rampant xenophobic thinking of the country.

But the media of this country should look itself on the mirror because the weirdest rape are committed by their locals but sometimes even get dismissed.

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These sick games are becoming more disgusting by the day. Everything associated with them smells of crime, mismanagement, infection, corruption and bad will.

They are the curse of Japan.

Worst Olympics since Berlin '36.

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Davronbek Rakhmatullaev, 30, a part-time Olympics worker

Is this person a resident of Japan, or was he allowed in just to serve food at the Olympics (without quarantine of course)?

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He probably learnt how to treat women from Borat Sagdiyev.

Yo, don't confuse Uzbeks with Kazakhs.

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Women don't suddenly get a hankering to have sex voluntarily with men they only just met hours ago, in a public place, during their work hours. This does not happen.

Oh yes it does!!

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If.

If he's guilty, then he's probably done similar many times before. Has karma caught up with him at last?

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The dude hasn't been judged, nothing and his nationality, full name has been published, nice ... Wondering the motivation of the disclosure.

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I would like to remind everyone about the woman "did not resist " part. Unfortunately, most Japanese Woman when struck with fear, do not how to react. 

What if they are not struck with fear and really wanted it ? You are assuming all japanese women are struck with fear. Does the word yellow cab ring a bell?

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girl_in_tokyoToday 08:20 am JST

If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

Women don't suddenly get a hankering to have sex voluntarily with men they only just met hours ago, 

Not true, there are many false allegations done by women against innocent men accusing them of sex crimes which never took place - out of various reasons or even out of no reason at all. Just out of bad mood to give police some work to do.

I remember various cases where taxi drivers, police officers and university students were accused by females of sex crimes out of nothing... they were men who these women never met before and those men did nothing wrong.

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I don't know how courtship works in Uzbekistan, but generally people don't skip 1st, 2nd, and 3rd base and go straight to home base with someone you've never met.

You will be surprised, It does happen alot.

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This woman stands to gain nothing here and will probably lose her reputation in the process.

What made you to arrive at the conclusion that she stands to gain nothing. Thank god posters here are not investigators because it is very dangerous for investigators to draw conclusion from assumptions and not facts ir evidence from the ensuing investigtion,

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Can you see the pattern? When a Japanese is accused of something, oh boy, people love to be judgmental."

In your list , you very conveniently forgot the sadistic Olympic music composer who made news over the weekend for making his disabled classmates eat their feaces and other horrible stuff I dont even wanna write about ...oh, he was Japanese, so that would break your "pattern" of evil foreigner narrative, ey?

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Victim blaming should not be happening.

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I don't know how courtship works in Uzbekistan, but generally people don't skip 1st, 2nd, and 3rd base and go straight to home base with someone you've never met.

5 ( +11 / -6 )

Victim blaming should not be happening.

Who is the victim ?

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Why is everyone assuming she’s lying? What is wrong with you people?

Nobody is claiming that the woman is lying, we are saying that the accused has the right of the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

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The suspect has denied the allegation, with the police quoting him as saying the woman did not resist. 

Police quoting him he didn't resist.

It is police quoting him, maybe he said some other stuff that got lost in translation or deliberately left out. It would be naive to base judgement on one sided police quote.

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If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

Claiming guilt by being male, is the literal definition of misandry.

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is there no surveillance video?

why was it just the two of them alone at night?

lot of questionable stuff here.

but then again this is Laff a Lympics 2021.

All kinds of madness is happening.

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OK TKN TV has reported a video footage captured this crime scene. The guy is lying she did not resist

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Scott WareToday 09:51 am JST

Why is everyone assuming she’s lying? What is wrong with you people?

Nobody is assuming that she is lying. However there are many deliberate false allegations concerning sex crimes from women against men and therefore police investigators have to listen to both sides of the story.

Too often these females are reporting non-existing sex-crimes and remain anonymous for life and get away without punishment.

Instead of accusing only men and presume they are guilty as all men are rapists and accusing police investigators for intrusive questioning of the victim, feminists better should accuse such malicious women who fabricate stories about sex crimes which never took place - as such behavior makes any investigation highly complicated.

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If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

Not in Japan. Remember the firefighters who raped a teenager in a karaoke bar? They got away unscathed.

But he's a foreigner, so he's assumed to be guilty. Good luck proving his innocence, which is how justice works here.

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girl_in_tokyoToday  08:20 am JST

If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

This is why there are courts.

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Despicable. Violence against women is among the most disgusting things of the world. Sexualizing violence makes it worse. And violence, in the end, is always despicable. I hope he is handed a sentence, served, and sent back to Uzbekistan upon recovering freedom. And please, provide mental health support to this woman ASAP. Rape, and all kind of sexual violence, leaves terrible scars on people. Terrible case, which somehow throws another stain to the Games.

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As usual the article is so scant on details. Cut and paste journalism at it's finest.

9pm, I guess they weren't the only ones in the stadium, if not approx how many workers were there in the stadium has it gives us anderstanding of the scale of activity or movement in the stadium during the stated time ? The guy was there to deliver food, what was the girl there for ? aisles and seats where there no workers working the seats or movement of people through the aisles? Easy questions that police have asked gotten answers, questions that don't hamper the investigation.

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@drlucifer

Both the alleged victim and perp were working in the stadium.

Yes, I know even the shy, unassuming, "blue stocking" type girls are amenable to a bit of "Friday night rough" with a cheeky chappie, but going at it in a public space with a guy she just met? That's a hard sell for the best of us.

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> The guy might be guilty and he might not be guilty. 

we will have to wait for the verdict. This is the whole point and purpose of the justice system.

this is not misogyny, blaming the victim, calling her a liar nor supporting the alleged criminal. 

Why is this soooooo difficult for people to understand?

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Commodore Perry

"If she said he raped her, then he raped her."

This is why there are courts.

Indeed. Can you imagine in a world where the legal system works like girl-in-tokyo wants it to? Wow.

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No resistance ≠ Consent

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The level of misogyny, is as expected by a certain manner of individuals. The descript of the crime, indicates exactly that: a crime was committed, that crime was rape. The circumstances further that conclusion Guilty/not guilty is hardly applicable. That is for a judge or jury. Assessing the actual situation, a woman was raped within an Olympic venue. The rapist was a worker aka 'providing meals'. The only defense being, 'she didn't resist'.

A crime is alleged to have happened, we don’t know that it did because that’s not how the system works given defendants have the right to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

For all of you who have decided the alleged perpetrator is guilty, don’t worry, we’re in Japan so it’s highly likely a confession will be forced out of the suspect.

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WakarimasenToday  07:26 am JST

Olympics causimg all sorts of issues

As if CoVid-19 wasn't bad enough. This whole shebang is going to make Japan look bad. In fact it already is off to a bad start.

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The guy might be guilty and he might not be guilty.

we will have to wait for the verdict. This is the whole point and purpose of the justice system.

this is not misogyny, blaming the victim, calling her a liar nor supporting the alleged criminal.

*shakes head in disbelief

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girl_in_tokyo

If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

Wish it was so simple. In the real world, we have seen plenty of cases of false accusations of this type.

I do not know what happened in this case (none of does), but the idea that anyone with XX genes can always make an accusation like this is never doubted is extremely dangerous. Anyone should have their claims subjected to reasonable doubt, regardless of DNA.

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Again, the prosecution rate in Japan is 39% and it is not a given that a suspect will be prosecuted.

In some cases, a settlement is reached through discussion with the victim.

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Don't think the man will be charged.

Just deported for breaching the Olympics Playbook.

Thanks to this incident we have learned that the Olympic bubble is not working.

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OK TKN TV has reported a video footage captured this crime scene. The guy is lying she did not resist

Sauce?

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back to this rape, perhaps this man knew he could exploit Japanese women by taking advantage of their silence. Or perhaps he just read the wrong signals Either way, he is doomed

They didn't know each other, and were in a public stadium. Really, there were no signals to be read - it was a flat out rape.

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They didn't know each other, and were in a public stadium. Really, there were no signals to be read - it was a flat out rape.

In the Japanese papers it is stated they met on the 16th but the time wasn't stated, it is possible they met in the morning or afternoon and exchanged numbers or agreed to watch the rehearsal together. For all we know they both might have been acquaintances, it is just assuming since the article is unbelievably lacking in facts, that is why I refrain from drawing conclusions. So strange that the guys name and age is stated but the girls age is stated as being in her 20s as if her age is not known or telling her real age would reveal her identity. There is a big difference between a 20year old and a 29 year old girl. 20s is not an age. Maybe I am asking too much considering journalism died a long time ago.

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To speculate on this case is to be an idiot.

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Cocaine, rape and covid infections. These olympics are off to a great start.

Yup. except you forgot the details:

1 )Tokyo police arrest foreign workers for suspected cocaine use

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/tokyo-police-arrests-4-olympics-workers-cocaine-usage-2021-07-13/

2) Police arrested a university student from Uzbekistan on Sunday on suspicion of raping a Japanese woman 

3) *Ugandan** Olympic Athlete Who Vanished in Tokyo Left a Note*

https://www.thedailybeast.com/missing-ugandan-weightlifter-julius-ssekitoleko-left-note-saying-he-wants-to-live-in-tokyo

4) Two athletes test positive for COVID-19 in Tokyo Olympic Village

Olympic organisers confirmed the positive tests on Sunday, saying the two athletes were from the same country but were not Japanese, without revealing their names or other details.

Can you see the pattern?

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Retaining benefit of the doubt in favor of a rapist and not the victim.

Retaining benefit of the doubt in favor of the woman and not the man? Sounds rather sexist to me.

Why don't we let the police do their job, and save our scorn until a verdict has been made?

If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

Actually, if she said he raped her, that is an accusation - and nothing more.

Women don't suddenly get a hankering to have sex voluntarily with men they only just met hours ago, in a public place, during their work hours. This does not happen.

It certainly sounds odd. But it's a wide world. There's a lot of weird everywhere.

But a man raping a woman wherever and whenever he can get her into a place where she is vulnerable and no one can hear her cry out for help?

Raping is bad. Nobody here is denying that. But why would you think she is somewhere no one can hear her cry out? You're assuming she cried out. You're assuming something happened.

This happens all the time, including in the workplace.

No. It doesn't happen "all the time."

Guilty.

Yes. You are guilty - of prejudice

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A lot of strong opinions based on just 5 short paragraphs.

A lot of people bringing too much of their personal bias and quick to judge despite with such little information.

I think the usual process is to not declare guilt or innocence at this stage, let the justice system do it's work (and yes it's slow here), listen to all sides of the story, then make the judgement.

If this was in or even near the stadium, there is a high chance of security camera footage (it's a high security area) from various parts of the day. Also there will be DNA evidence and potential witnesses.

Let's not jump to conclusions.

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kennyGToday 10:26 am JST

OK TKN TV has reported a video footage captured this crime scene. The guy is lying she did not resist

If there is really video evidence available about what happened this would help a lot.

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They didn't know each other, and were in a public stadium. Really, there were no signals to be read - it was a flat out rape.

Alleged rape.

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"entered Japan in 2014"

There's such a thing as 7-year student visas?

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So either he is lying or she is, either way it doesn't sound like the security vetting for the staff at the venue was particularly good. Lots of VIPs, poor vetting, and a lot of angry people, what could possibly go wrong ?

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Because of the notion that Japanese are victims, and foriegners have to prove their innocence, it is imperitive that this man (and in my opinion should not have been named until at least charged) should remain silent during questioning until he has a lawyer present. Under no circumstances answer any "off the record" questions to a trsnslator.

Always remember, Japan has a three tier legal system. A law for the rich, a law for the poor, and a law for non-Japanese. (In the case of non-Japanese, Japanese victims sometimed play Japan's biased legal system to extort money).

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Yeah, it kind of does. It means either there wasn't enough evidence to hold a trial, or the victim dropped the charges without recourse to a trial later. If you believe in the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty, then it follows that you do not have to be found not guilty to be exonerated. There is a presumption of innocence. You are talking about the court of public opinion, not a legal proceeding.

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letsberealisticToday 01:19 pm JST

Quantify 'many'. Sounds like a subjective view you hold than anything based on fact.

Did you know the estimated percentage of those women who report rape is way lower than the actual number in any country but especially in Japan?

Quantify 'many' - (from wikipedia - False accusation of rape) I cannot say, false rape allegations are only a few or rare. - The average seems to be around 10 percent...

Ministry of Justice, UK (2008–2009)

The UK Ministry of Justice in their Research Series published a report describing the analysis of 1,149 case files of violent crimes recorded April 2008 to March 2009. They noted that 12% of rape allegations fell into a broader definition of false accusations (victim was intoxicated, there was a delay in reporting the crime, victim retracted the complaint after the fact, or no evidence of bodily harm was recorded).

Cambridge Law Journal, Rumney (2006) - findings of the prevalence of false rape allegations ranged from 1.5% to 90%, with an average of 10% to 11% 

Be careful about your 'estimated percentages' which serves to no other purpose except to present 'women as victims'

I could do the same for men - reverse the gender - for example to ask:

Did you know the estimated percentage of those men who report domestic violence is way lower than the actual number...

Or generally:

Did you know the estimated percentage of theft and burglary reported is way lower than the actual number...

etc. etc.

If you ask me to define MANY, I will ask you in return to define 'estimated percentage' of women who report (or do not report) rape...

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Hiroshi13Today 02:14 pm JST

"entered Japan in 2014"

There's such a thing as 7-year student visas?

Good question, but I think it is not impossible to apply for visa extension if you are able to study different subjects one by one in different departments in any university and do some legal part-time job 20 hours a week to finance your stay in Japan.

It seems he has a proper visa and is legally in Japan.

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I would give him the benefit of the doubt. I would be unfair to jump into conclusions before a trial.

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The standard in California now, is that you must actually give specific consent that you are agreeing to sex.

"Affirmative Consent". That is to protect people who might be intoxicated, sleeping, or simply just afraid.

The concept is definitely a bit odd for many couples, but it is a good way to protect potential victims. They don't need to say no. They can just "lay flat" and not say anything when they feel under too much pressure.

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The standard in California now, is that you must actually give specific consent that you are agreeing to sex.

"Affirmative Consent". That is to protect people who might be intoxicated, sleeping, or simply just afraid.

I know a couple who have an explicit agreement of consent on sex with each other while they are sleeping.

In California, they'd be criminals. Both of them.

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Foreigners usually make the headlines above the Japanese who have committed similar crimes.

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In the stadium?

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Just wondering but when did Kyodo move away from sexual assault and started using rape? Does this mean that they will call the crime for what it is now instead of just using sexual assault like they did before?

Anyway, I hope we'll get a follow up on this case. Since at least part has apparently been caught on video we should get more information rather sooner than later.

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Davronbek Rakhmatullaev, 30, a part-time Olympics worker who had entered the stadium to provide meals to the press, is suspected of sexually assaulting the woman in her 20s at seats and in an aisle at the venue around 9 p.m. Friday, the police said.

At seats then left and continued in an aisle. Wondering whether she was held at gun point and in an environment without people and she couldn't shout for help. The story raises a whole lot of questions.

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Wondering whether she was held at gun point

In Japan?!

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If he is guilty he shall pay. Things are bad enough without clods like him doing crimes like this.

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Uni student from Uzbekistan? All he needs is a good scholarship for 5 years in the best Japanese jail and then a deportation with honors to his country for his PhD.

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Whenever the suspect of a crime is Japanese, there is an automatic presumption of guilt on the part of many posters here.

Incorrect. You sure love your blanket statements.

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If she was consent, what's her motive to report to the police? What could possibly she want from this stranger? They have never met each other before the incident right? It is totally different context from Black Swan. Was it her fault to watch  a rehearsal with this guy she met on the day, doing possibly the same part-time jobs

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No resistance ≠ Consent

{No resistance ≠ Consent} ≠ {resistance ≠ nonconsent}

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Thank you kennyG for the article link (and for those sweet tunes in the 90's)

According to the article, the police reported that the suspect said「嫌がっていなかった」but this can be taken a few different ways. In other words, if the police ask, "Did she fight back?" and there actually was no incident at all, of course the answer will be "No." So I can't judge simply off this comment.

However, the article DOES mention that part of the assault was captured on security camera. Generally security cameras do not have an agenda, so I would guess that the captured video will (should) decide the case if it incriminates the man.

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See? It should long have been canceled for a many more reasons. Now, keep the damage low and cancel it now, or are you still not satisfied what already has happened even before the official opening?

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> YohanToday  11:46 am JST

Scott WareToday 09:51 am JST

Why is everyone assuming she’s lying? What is wrong with you people?

Nobody is assuming that she is lying. However there are many deliberate false allegations concerning sex crimes from women against men and therefore police investigators have to listen to both sides of the story.

Quantify 'many'. Sounds like a subjective view you hold than anything based on fact.

Did you know the estimated percentage of those women who report rape is way lower than the actual number in any country but especially in Japan?

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Lots of heat, lots of smoke, and no light. How typical.

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> Sven AsaiToday  12:36 pm JST

See? It should long have been canceled for a many more reasons. Now, keep the damage low and cancel it now, or are you still not satisfied what already has happened even before the official opening?

Wait - this incident is also the fault of the IOC?

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Why are you assuming that he is guilty because he is a foreigner when you don't even know if he will be prosecuted yet?

The prosecution rate in Japan is 39%, and not all arrestees are prosecuted.

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Alan HarrisonToday  03:04 pm JST

Because of the notion that Japanese are victims, and foriegners have to prove their innocence, it is imperitive that this man (and in my opinion should not have been named until at least charged) should remain silent during questioning until he has a lawyer present. Under no circumstances answer any "off the record" questions to a trsnslator.

How come we often watch and know, the name, nationality, sex, even the face, image of the suspects for the serious crimes happened through Western Media even before proper legal process has not started ? Shall I line up the examples?

Always remember, Japan has a three tier legal system. A law for the rich, a law for the poor, and a law for non-Japanese. (In the case of non-Japanese, Japanese victims sometimed play Japan's biased legal system to extort money).

Would you please elaborate on such 3-tier system a bit further? I am maybe not the only one interested in it.

Don't always shuffle the cards to show this innocent until proven guilty doctrine joker, too heavily chorusing human rights of the suspects, unless you don't want to expose yourself in public ignoring those of the victims including dead ones  

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Those who want him deported right away or rot in jail, what will you do if same thing happened to u? So think before u utter a word.

If he is really guilty, then 40 years in jail is more than enough. When released, he will be 70. So by that time and age, don't think he will be able to do it again, due to erectile dysfunction.

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Just because the women didn't say anything doesn't mean she agreed or disagreed. The only person that knows in this case is the women. This is very much cultural, this is because Japan is a male dominated society and women just don't speak their minds when it comes to answering to men. If she wanted it to happen she wouldn't have reported this to the police as with many rapes in Japan go unreported. In this case reporting it means she didn't agree. I am thinking this because she did not know the guy. The suspect has denied the allegation, with the police quoting him as saying the woman did not resist. The two had never met before the incident. The question is do you violate someone and take advantage of someone because they didn't communicate a yes or no answer. The best thing he should have did was do nothing, and he wouldn't have to worry about whether or not she agreed or disagree. You just don't force a situation, its not the lack of communication on her part, it is the rapist thought process of what he knew he was going to do, and that was to satisfy his need based on what he thought whether she agreed or disagreed.

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oldman_13: "Whenever the suspect of a crime is Japanese, there is an automatic presumption of guilt on the part of many posters here.

However, whenever the suspect of a crime particularly a violent or sexual one is non-Japanese, as is the case here, these same people then suddenly become the model of judicial fairness (innocent until proven guilty, trumped up charges against a foreigner, etc.). 

Some things will never change."

Not true at all. In fact, in the case of crimes, especially ones based on hearsay, many if not most say as they are saying -- wait for more information. YOU, on the other hand, if it were the reverse, most certainly fit the bill of your description, and as such I think your post is simply projection and misdirected anger. I'm just surprised yours wasn't the first post on the thread.

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Cocaine, rape and covid infections. These olympics are off to a great start.

Minus the Covid infections, this is business as usual for the Olympics.

In reality, this will probably go down as one of the least infected Olympics by these things.

If only all past Olympics were under such a microscope…

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He should be booked. Maybe she was afraid to resist.

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OK TKN TV has reported a video footage captured this crime scene. The guy is lying she did not resist

Sauce?

kennyGToday 10:26 am JST

OK TKN TV has reported a video footage captured this crime scene. The guy is lying she did not resist

If there is really video evidence available about what happened this would help a lot.

I always watch lots of news on Youtube and it was TXN TV but it seems now gone(and I ususally donot keep video history) Instead I found another one which states ”security camera captured a part of the assault scenes 暴行の様子の一部が防犯カメラに映っていたという."

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/636f9e4cfc5f3f246613f6419067ead25f875abc

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Did you know the estimated percentage of those women who report rape is way lower than the actual number in any country but especially in Japan?

It's hard because it's such a subjective experience. I had a relationship with a girl in the back of my car that afterward I wondered if I had gone too far (pushed for what I wanted without listening to her enough) but she met me several times after and repeated the same thing, so I stopped worrying about it. But the point is, that it could have easily have been interpreted differently by someone else. In my case, she DID say "no" but not "NO!" And in case you're wondering what I mean by that, it's explained very well here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ3QHTpMZgQ

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So as usual all the big self claimed advocates of innocent proven guilty which are nowhere to be seen for alleged murder, robery, scam, dangerous driving, kidnapping, child assault, bribery, ... got out in full force.

Wonder why the cases where the alleged perpetrator was a man, the alleged crime sex related and the alleged victim a women past the age of consent are so special, that they need so much implication of the self claimed innocent until proven guilty team. Alleged robbed, child molester, politician briber, scam artist, mass murder, arsonist, dangerous driver... need you too. Dozo, go defend their right to innocent until proven guilty against all the throw a book at them if not hang them people. I mean it is innocent until proven guilty right ? Or some are more innocent until proven guilty than other ?

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When released, he will be 70. So by that time and age, don't think he will be able to do it again, due to erectile dysfunction

Erectile function is not required to sexually assault someone, but yeah.

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The suspect has denied the allegation, with the police quoting him as saying the woman did not resist. The two had never met before the incident.

So she did not resist, it is OK sign for this beast? Is it she got frightened and couldn't resist or she just looked non-resisting to his eyes? How could this be proven innocent or guilty anyway?

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One thing that needs mention here is that the act occurred around 9pm on the 16th and the matter was reported to the police the next day 17th which raises the question why it wasn't reported the same day considering 9pm is still early and I will assume since it was a rehearsal there were many people in the stadium. I have not seen the video and if the video shows her resisting then that will help us make an informed guess of who is not speaking the truth.

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kaimycahl

Just because the women didn't say anything doesn't mean she agreed or disagreed. The only person that knows in this case is the women. This is very much cultural, this is because Japan is a male dominated society and women just don't speak their minds when it comes to answering to men.

I don´t know where you get that idea from. The women I know are quite opinionated, although of course in Japan everything is coached in politeness.

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Why is everyone assuming she’s lying? What is wrong with you people?

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I assume the suspect will stay in custody until his trial, because he didn't deny committing sex only deny using force. To my way of thinking , He is staying at a nice hotel or have this sex where he admits the poor survivor claims. This trial could take years to get to court. I say within day a confession will be issued follow by a very quick deportation. Could this man be Borak's younger brother???

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It’s extremely frightening how many people on this thread don’t care one wit for the doctrine of innocent until proven guilty.

mainly ultranationalists and apologists.

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In the the seats and in the aisle? Have my doubts on this one.

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How did I know that it would be a non-Japanese person that is the suspect?

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The level of misogyny, is as expected by a certain manner of individuals. The descript of the crime, indicates exactly that: a crime was committed, that crime was rape. The circumstances further that conclusion Guilty/not guilty is hardly applicable. That is for a judge or jury. Assessing the actual situation, a woman was raped within an Olympic venue. The rapist was a worker aka 'providing meals'. The only defense being, 'she didn't resist'.

The individual, the perpetrator, is a 30 year old student, on leave from the university. He arrived in Japan 2014. Has been here for seven years. Presently, he is a part-time service worker in the food industry. That's an interesting resume.

As for a woman reporting a rape. That is difficult itself. Let alone the trauma on myriad levels.

How many of you big bad boys would want to hoof it on down to the police station, after some hulking dude had their way with you, non-consensual (a quaint term) of course. In broad daylight. Then the assailant, dismisses his own behavior with, the bizarre defense: he didn't resist. Are you then going to express the sentiment, well, he is innocent until proven guilty, let's wait & see? Sure.

Rape is a heinous crime. Oft not reported. Do some reading.

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Since the perpetrator was a foreigner, the comment section is full of slander against the victim woman.

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Forget deportation. He would probably commit crimes back home too. instead throw him in prison. 1-2 decades might do him good.

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Deport !!!. Deport !!!. Deport !!!..

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Retaining benefit of the doubt in favor of a rapist and not the victim.

Really?

Nope.

If she said he raped her, then he raped her.

Women don't suddenly get a hankering to have sex voluntarily with men they only just met hours ago, in a public place, during their work hours. This does not happen.

But a man raping a woman wherever and whenever he can get her into a place where she is vulnerable and no one can hear her cry out for help? This happens all the time, including in the workplace.

Guilty.

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Whenever the suspect of a crime is Japanese, there is an automatic presumption of guilt on the part of many posters here.

However, whenever the suspect of a crime particularly a violent or sexual one is non-Japanese, as is the case here, these same people then suddenly become the model of judicial fairness (innocent until proven guilty, trumped up charges against a foreigner, etc.).

Some things will never change.

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