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Peruvian man sues state over assault while detained in Osaka

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So he resisted and got hurt. I'm not really seeing what the problem is here.

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Wonder if there is any video footage of the incident? Dont these centers have video surveillance systems in place?

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It has been well documented that immigration uses excessive force at times.

On the other hand if it is true the man was violent and then again tried to leave the cell it is possible the officers needed to use some degree of force to restrain the man.

Cameras are ubiquitous now and we are constantly being watched while walking down the street. With that in mind it would make sense that there would be cameras in these facilities to document any abuses going on or outlandish behavior by detainees.

I agree with the above poster...video footage would probably put this to rest quickly (one way or another)

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There doesn't seem to be any disagreement on what he did and from the sound of it, he quite likely inflicted the injury on himself. My original comment may have been a bit smart-assed, but if was really trying to leave, defy officers and bouncing himself off the walls, I really have no sympathy for him. Unless there's video of guards snapping his arm, I think he's not going to have much luck.

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"after he expressed dissatisfaction with his lunch and became violent"

Good on the coppers for teaching him some respect.

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Good on the coppers for teaching him some respect...

Yeah right just break his arm sure that is going to teach him respect...

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You don't violently resist and then claim foul when your very own actions result in serious injury. No sympathies from me either and hope he doesn't get anything.

Why people around the world continue to resist authority violently instead of complying, and then cry about it afterwards, I have no idea.

Japanese immigration may have issues, but this is hardly any example of it. What part of complying don't these people get?

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It has been well documented that immigration uses excessive force at times.

very true.

On the other hand if it is true the man was violent and then again tried to leave the cell it is possible the officers needed to use some degree of force to restrain the man.

agree.

Cameras are ubiquitous now and we are constantly being watched while walking down the street. With that in mind it would make sense that there would be cameras in these facilities to document any abuses going on or outlandish behavior by detainees.

absolutely. if there are cameras on the streets, in stations, trains, etc. SURELY there MUST be some in the detention centers.

I agree with the above poster...video footage would probably put this to rest quickly (one way or another)

Exactly. They should produce it.

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Get rid of these of these immigration centers and deport people already.

1 ( +7 / -6 )

Get rid of these of these immigration centers and deport people already.

Start with the US bases, which have provided our host nation with several rapists, murderers, drunk drivers and anti-social behavior over the years.

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"after he expressed dissatisfaction with his lunch and became violent"

I experience this often myself but I have never become violent over it.

Guy sounds like a complete idiot. Try pulling this nonsense with US Immigration.

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He isn't in the US, and in any event the US no longer permits immigration - but does it treat those immigrants it is holding in custody abusively, and in much worse conditions than Japan does.

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it seems to me he was being a troublemaker and got off pretty lightly.

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To the people who have picked up on:

"after he expressed dissatisfaction with his lunch and became violent"

I'd like to point out that JT is passing on the info they were given by the immigration facility (or those who represent it) and that info is vague, at best.

If you accept their explanation that he didn't like his lunch and went nuts, the man is either:

a) insane (which makes you wonder how he could organize a legal suit) or

b) the victim of far more provocation than has been admitted to by those who had him at their mercy.

You seem to be content to take their word for it. A little naive, perhaps?

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 "It was a necessary means of restraint as he was being violent."

"He hurled himself against the wall multiple times in order to get out of the room, and we are not aware of how (his arm) came to be fractured," it said.

Typical! Unwilling to take blame for their actions! smh

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If he has a fractured arm, I think his claim has merit. I am not sympathetic for the guy, but I don´t think it is necessary to break his arm for restraining him.

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better be dismissed, he tried escaping and should have been roughed up more since it wasnt first time...,i think guards need lessons in roughing up tactics that dont leave scars... waterboarding could be good... just research cia tactics..

Luckily, despite the reputation of the authorities here, Japan hasn't succumbed to the brutalities that are commonplace in the US or Russia.

Shame to see violence being applauded, though.

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@Dr MaybeToday 01:42 pm JST

According to the suit, the man was taken to a solitary cell at the Osaka Regional Immigration Bureau around noon on Dec. 20, 2017, after he expressed dissatisfaction with his lunch and became violent.

The key words are emboldened - this is his version of the events (at least after a lawyer sifted through it and determined how far he might realistically be able to push for). The rest of the article also makes it clear that he is not contesting his own fault in the matter. His argument is one of disproportionality.

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@Kazuaki Shimazaki

True. I've emboldened a few more key words...

However, the Osaka immigration bureau said, "It was a necessary means of restraint as he was being violent."

"He hurled himself against the wall multiple times in order to get out of the room, and we are not aware of how (his arm) came to be fractured," it said.

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if a person is unarmed and in confinement, then this level of force is unprofessional. The disadvantaged is the person confined, not the guards.

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Since it's he said vs she said situation, it comes down to credibilities of those two. And I'll side with the poor gaijin. If he was as rich as Ghosn was, he would've escaped the beating.

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Got stab by his own japanese kind definitley needs compensation and citizenship

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we are not aware of how (his arm) came to be fractured

This excuse again.

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TheLongTermer

if a person is unarmed and in confinement, then this level of force is unprofessional. The disadvantaged is the person confined, not the guards.

My thinking too. It is not like one guard takes him on in a kind of wrestling match. There are always several guards dealing with one prisoner, to make sure they have full control. Breaking an arm is clearly excessive.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Deportation much more easier than keeping them inside

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