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Police haven't ruled out suicide in severed penis case, media report

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Maybe his severed appendage committed the deed, then offed itself amongst the dust bunnies in remorse. That would also explain the lack of footprints.

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But I thought JT readers has all pretty much decided it was some crazy women who did it??

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Ok the plods are onto something here, now all they need to do is establish if he severed his penis before or after he killed himself. :p

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Sounds right to me me - he cut his bits off and then stabbed himself a number of times in chest and stomach. Case closed , J-police record of solving 99% ( or whatever the figure is ) of crimes stands unbroken. Voila.

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My Lordy! They think he might have done this to himself? I mean, having someone do it to him wasn't so great either but...... I can hardly bear to pluck my eyebrows...... The poor man. I hope he is in a better place now.

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That would have been a lot of work to do for a suicide, with the stabbings of the chest and stomach and then slicing off the family jewels just seems like to much work. Now to find the culprit of this crime.

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LOL. That's surely a lot of work for commit suicide. What couldn't he just jump off the platform at Koiwa Station?

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I will let you guys handle the ridicule on this one.

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Suicide a possibility? Well, that DOES sound more like what happened. He was probably trying to do a little at-home sex change, botched it up, and ended up not liking the results. So naturally he killed himself! Genius!!!

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Lemme get this straight:

The guys stabs himself several times, cuts off his best friend, and shoves his best friend and knife under the bed before dying off ...

Case is indeed closed!

SAY WHAT?

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Never mind that. Let me join in. The police might be praised for their attention to subtleties and deduction. They are definitely thinking outside the box to have considered the absence of bloody foot prints. But, what I find more compelling is the absence of the murderer standing right next to the guy. Case closed; the guy obviously just had mad skills.

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Elvensilvan.

Stranger cases do exists. Also fairly easy to identify when a stab-wound was self-inflicted.

A good friend of mine works for CSI and you would be shocked what they can figure out and how little info they make public. And I am not talking the TV-CSI here.

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DIY Brazilian bikini line attempt gone horribly wrong?

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Meth + Missing penis = Suicide + Cops can't be bothered

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The reasoning behind the case for suicide seems pretty weak. How about letting us know if the wounds appeared self-inflicted or not? Lack of bloody footprints or defensive wounds don't really add up to much.

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Harakiri..?

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No reason to live..?

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This story is giving me the willies!

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It could well be suicide.....I wouldn't feel life was worth living if i were hung like a field mouse either!!

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Who's paying the J-cops to come up with that one?

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" Police believe a Japanese man found dead on Monday with multiple stab wounds and his severed genitals under his bed may have committed suicide, "

OMG, just when you think the J-police can not embarrass themselves any more. Un-friggin-believable

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So "reports" says this, but police have declined to confirm the reports. But the reports came from the police? The Sankei daily cites unnamed police sources that the man didn't have any defensive injuries, but says nothing about footprints... And then, the lack of bloody footprints idea came from Nippon Television? Not from the police? I'm confused. Does anyone suspect a drive-by circumcision?

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One of those threads where the comments are even better than the news story!

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No way is this a suicide. According to the news this dude's junk was under the bed and the knife was in the other room. So, he detaches his junk, stabs himself more than once, and throws the knife clear across the room into the other room. JT also failed to mention the heated arguments this male was having with a female sometime prior to the so called suicide. Oh, and the door was open.

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Actually, no, I take that back. You guys are hilarious, but this is simply the best newsline I have EVER read:

Police believe a Japanese man found dead on Monday with multiple stab wounds and his severed genitals under his bed may have committed suicide

Brilliant stuff! Thank you JT! Its been a rough week, but this has totally made my day!

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Yeah right: "I think I will cut my junk off and throw it under the bed before I die, and let them figure that one out."

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Here's another version of what might of happened...

After taking a shower (hence being naked) I think he was planning to trim his bikini line before his super hot date later that evening. He slipped on the wet wooden floor in his room and fell awkwardly. In doing he accidentally sliced of his jewels.

Next he lay on the bed in double agony. Agony one for the pain of the injury and the sight of his jewels not being where they should be. Agony two knowing that his super hot date is over (as are all future hot dates)

Feeling totally depressed, he stabbed himself (several times) as a form of self inflicted punishment.

Bottom line, he had a rough day. RIP...

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Must have been some stimulants to make him able to kill himself like this, apparently in an attempt to make it look like murder. But if that were the case, I suspect his own bloody footprints would be all over the place!

Mind though, that the police have simply not ruled out suicide. They are not saying it was a suicide. I am sure they are aware that there is also a possibility that some very clever SOB was very careful not to make footprints. How? Drug your victim or incapacitate him in some way, lay down plastic sheets, butcher your victim, pack up the plastic and leave.

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miyazawa3:

" Harakiri..? "

That would have to be "Tamakiri" in this case.

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For some reason whenever I read of this case, I can't get this KIng Missile classic song out of my head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4

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Oh I see....maybe he tried to perform Seppuku in the dark and something horribly went wrong.

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There are a lot of facts missing here, so let's not leap to conclusions, for example let's paint a different hypothetical scene with some additional details: " The man was found dead in his locked apartment with the deadbolt in place. His chest and stomach had numerous shallow knife cuts, with numerous scars and half-healed cuts across his torso, predominantly on his left side (the man was right handed). His severed genitalia were found under his bed. On his computer a DIY "extreme body modification" video was paused, and several dozen castration fetish videos were also on the computer."

If there's evidence like this then it's quite plausible for the police to investigate suicide by "misadventure". Of course it doesn't rule out an accomplice, but the sequencing of the wounds (determined by amount of blood loss from the lesser injuries since an arterial wound like castration would result in the person bleeding out very quickly).

I think people are leaping to conclusions here. Let the cops get on with their investigation. At least they're not doing their normal trick of going out, grabbing the first suspect and then ignoring everything else while they interrogate a confession out of him regardless of any evidence or the lack thereof.

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It's fair for people to comment on the news that is released. It's the cops who should keep quiet until they have something concrete. They don't have a good reputation amongst Japanese people and seemingly crazy stuff like this won't help them build respect.

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I have heard about suicide cases when the victim killed himself with multiple stabs in the chest. Not that rare. Also, heard about cases when male victims severed their own genitals, more over, and sorry I am not going to make grisly comment, just be factual, I read about cases where criminals under captivity poked and removed their own eyeballs and ate them. Yes, extraordinary cases might happen. Sorry, for mentioning that, but the practice of self severing is reality and the above examples might be helpful judging a case. But, these cases happened uniquely, one by one.

I have never heard about simultaneously committing both, severing genitals and then stabbing himself this way. Considering the extraordinary physical stress, mind boggling pain and exhaustion and the inevitable instant physical weakening, including the time that this "operation" consumes, it is hard to believe he could do that alone.

Broadcaster Nippon Television reported the lack of bloody footprints at the scene supported a suicide theory.

Also, I have never heard, that the police and the law enforcement in general could ever dare come out with such an idiotic statement. Minimum, they should submit a detailed CSI report, including the analysis of hundreds of samples from the floor, carpet, prints, lost hair, small fallen pieces of dandruff on the floor, DNA test etc.

Even in a hit and run accident a troop of police officers are crawling on their knees searching for small fragments of paint or glass. Now according to this, next time a hit and run accident happens the police will say, as they didn't find any brake marks on the road and they can't rule out the victim hit himself.

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Here's a quote from the original story:

The man’s genitals were discovered under the bed and a blood-covered knife was also found in the room

Suicide, huh? So....in whatever order, he managed to stab himself, sever his genitals, place them under the bed and place the knife in (presumably) another part of the room. This theory is, quite frankly, a load of bollocks. If the cops can't solve it, they need to get a private dick on the case.

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And while I'm at it, these cops should get the sac

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Mon Dieu!!! A man is dead, horribly killed. This is no laughing matter! Did he to this to himself, kill himself this way? That's nearly impossible to believe. I suppose the police haven't ruled out space aliens being involved either.

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Recipe for a perfect murder; first dope your victim with stimulants then stabs him many times to the chest and stomach . Then chop off the manhood . Don't leave footprints. Kick the severed organ under the bed. The police will think it is suicide and you get off scott-free. Disclaimer: This recipe only applies in Japan and not any other parts of the world.

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"a stimulant was also detected in his system"

That could have something to do with it.

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@hatsoff:

And while I'm at it, these cops should get the sac

I dunno about getting the sac just yet - but they should definitely grow a pair and stop tooling around.

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Japan doesn't need cops...we got JT posters to solve the cases!!!

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Next thing, they they will announce that he carved "hitori kiri" on himself as a suicide note ? Tell me they mean assisted seppuku, at least...

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no way another victim, wasnt there one like last week? the killer def now has an mo lol old men and with their balls left under the bed

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as_the_crow_fliesJan. 16, 2012 - 02:54PM JST

In a move described by sources familiar with the topic as "unprecendented", a spokeswoman for the Tokyo Metropolitan Police confirmed to AFP that officers have in principle ruled out suicide.

I swear I was just being flippant when I wrote this the other day! Is this a case of Life imitating Art? Anyway, whatever the police say, I still think it's a toss between a yakuza assisted suicide, and an enraged lover/partner/partner's significant Other. And however it happened, what a horrible way to go. RIP

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@as-the-crow-flies - I actually thought you were nuts for saying that originally. But as it turns out - you were probably on the ball.

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Anybody heard of Van Gogh?

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Obviously, this guy had the mother of all wanks, and in the process, he tore his meat and two veg off its moorings, which landed under the bed. Realizing that he had cut off his manhood, and suicide was the only way out, he continued to stab around until he pegged out.

Probaby not a cooking accident.

I agree with the Japanese police. It's an unusual death.

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Police believe a Japanese man found dead on Monday with multiple stab wounds and his severed genitals under his bed may have committed suicide...................

so he stabbed himself multiple times, then cut off his own weanie AND lifted the mattress , put it there AND then laid down and died . WOW

Sounded just like that guy who committed suicide by shooting himself with a machine gun 30+ times in Iraq ( so said Saddam )

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and you think why people make fun of J cops ? LOL

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Hmmm. If it WAS a suicide, I would bet the penis went first, followed by the stabbings in case he didn't bleed to death just from the castration. (Puts on amateur psychologist hat) A rapist trying to repent for his past sin(s)? (Takes off amateur psychologist hat) Just plain crazy.

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Wow... just wow.

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Killing oneself with multiple stab wounds to the chest? I've never heard of such a thing. Gilted lover sounds a lot more reasonable. Or very unhappy Yakuza. That actually happened in NYC once - guy had an affair with the mob boss' wife, ended up dead with his wille stuffed in his mouth.

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Strange how society's mores can play a part. In the UK, suicide is considered "bad form" so the authorities will bend over backwards to say it is not suicide - "The deceased was depressed and told people he was going to hang himself. Was found in a locked room with the key in his pocket, hanging from a rafter by a kicked over chair. However no suicide note was found, so it's death by misadventure".

In Japan...

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It"S MEJan. 20, 2012 - 04:38PM JST Elvensilvan. Also fairly easy to identify when a stab-wound was self-inflicted. A good friend of mine works for CSI and you would be shocked what they can figure out and how little info they make public. And I am not talking the TV-CSI here.

Indeed this would be the case in a Western nation where the police have forensic experts and autopsies are a matter of course in all suspicious deaths.

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Hmm some kind of drug in his system and no defense wounds. I think that means that he was drugged mutilated and stabbed while unconscious...

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wait he cut hit penis off then this balls then he stabbed him self followed dumping his balls under his bed? . something smells fishy

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Wow! Suicide? Took some balls to pull that one off I am sure.

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Bwahahahhaha. Is the justice system so tilted that they no longer go after the women who kill men in this manner?

Is this the way J-Cops mask incompetence these days? We can't find foot prints from her high heels so we better call it a suicide. This is Japan people...they jump in front of trains. They don't cut off their huevos then toss them under the bed and immediately start stabbing themselves to death.

I know the ladies don't believe this rubbish. The women know exactly what happened. Every time I try to vision a man in his room with a knife trying to cut off his jewels it stops right there. Seriously, the vision doesn't get past the knife actually next to my botox smooth huevos.

Sad this is the best the J-Cops can do.

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Just trying to keep the murder rate down by not classifying it as one for as long as they can.

But still I ask who's apartment was he in?

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Just trying to keep the murder rate down by not classifying it as one

You'd think there was a greater need to keep the goggawful suicide rate down.

At least they aren't calling it an accident. Yet.

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What about the woman from the 30s who killed her lover and carried his member with her?

What happened to her?

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as a ex police officer I can say this is a bullshit. this is 2000% not suicide, I met alot of mental people yet nobody that mental that tried to remove their penis. if it was 1 stab in the body could be suicide yet stabing your self several times close to impossible. pain would prevent from you to do that. if it si several stabs 100% homecide. (for J-cops knowledgement)

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Drug your victim or incapacitate him in some way, lay down plastic sheets, butcher your victim, pack up the plastic and leave

.Somebody's been watching too much "DEXTER" - but that could very well have been the case !

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Wonder if this story will stick.

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So many "experts" here confident that autocastration is impossible. sigh, including one person who is:

avimazaltoJan. 21, 2012 - 01:08PM JST as a ex police officer I can say this is a bullshit. this is 2000% not suicide, I met alot of mental people yet nobody that mental that tried to remove their penis. if it was 1 stab in the body could be suicide yet stabing your self several times close to impossible. pain would prevent from you to do that. if it si several stabs 100% homecide. (for J-cops knowledgement)

This is rare, and normally associated with the acute phase of schizophrenia. There is perhaps a case per year worldwide, but it does happen and isn't as painful as people believe. Here's a case study: " On the fateful day, the voices commanded him to chop off his genitalia to get respite from the above problem. At midnight, he went to the kitchen and slashed his penis from its root. He threw the severed penis at the back of his house. He did not complain of pain. His brother found his dress soaked in blood and on enquiry, the patient told the sequence of events to him." (http://www.gjpsy.uni-goettingen.de/gjp-article-chand2-selfmutilation.pdf)

The killer of John Wilkes Booth, Boston Corbett, is also reputed to have performed autocastration and not sought medical treatment for a protracted period or complained about the pain, although I'm uncertain of the veracity of this claim.

It looks like the J-cops are less stupid than the foreign cops (like the ex-cop above who believes he knows it all). Yes, this would be a very, very rare case, but it wouldn't be impossible, and they're quite right not to completely rule out the possibility of suicide without investigating.

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why cut your penis ?

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I can solve this case from 5000 miles away!!... it is not SUICIDE... it is a woman... or a jealous man of a woman... One way or another, a woman is involved... attacking the penis and cutting it off is two things... he has assaulted a woman and she got revenge or a man caught him with his woman and got revenge.

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Hmm some kind of drug in his system and no defense wounds. I think that means that he was drugged mutilated and stabbed while unconscious...

Mark, the drug was a STIMULANT, not a narcotic.

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Hardcore!

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The police couldn't find footprints because whoever cut off his dingaling was a vampire who could fly out the window.

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Obvously, they extracted a confession after consulting with the local priests, who questioned his ghost. Japanese methods, which foreigners can't understand. That's how the Japanese legal system works.

It is an important question, however, whether he first killed himself and then removed his parts, or removed them before killing himself. The second version would mean a molestation case for the world of the living, while the first would be a case for final judgement, which doesn't enter Japanese crime statistics.

Nevertheless, such a cruel suicide certainly requires balls to begin with.

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And, what stimulants were the detectives taking that came up with fabulous idea!?

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No man would cut off his own sword! A man would rather commit suicide before slicing his sword!

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