Police koban door smashed, baton stolen while officer sleeps

Or the officer's partner who was trying to retrieve his baton but couldn't get in cos no-one was answering the door.

Researchers say : While You Sleep, Your Brain Keeps Working. then what about this police officer? brain dead (?)

Is it common for J cops to sleep over during the night at kobans?

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Is it common for J cops to sleep over during the night at kobans?

Some kobans are 24 hrs. He wasn't suppose to be asleep, he's suppose to be on duty just in case there is an emergency call. Can you imaging if someone where trying to report a rape,assault, or murder in progress, and this fool couldn't respond because he was ASLEEP? Tax payer money hard at work.

Next posting: Senkaku sentry duty.

This cop sounds like an idiot!!

Why would anyone want to break into a police station anyway?????

Geez... that's two J-cops foibles in one day. Gun left in toilet and now this. I'm seriously wondering what qualifications are needed to become a police officer here.

Perhaps he wasn't asleep - perhaps he had heard the break-in, was scared, and was calling the police.

Was officer Sleepyhead on duty at this time?

Mirai HayashiJun. 08, 2013 - 06:32PM JST He wasn't suppose to be asleep, he's suppose to be on duty just in case there is an emergency call.

You assume he was the officer on duty. He probably wasn't. This means he had every right to be asleep, and in fact that's why there are futons in most koban.

How do I know he wasn't the officer on duty? Because the standard arrangement is two officers, on off duty sleeping upstairs or watching TV, and one on duty. This means the officer on duty probably just stepped out to respond to a call or patrol the neighbourhood. This would be consistent with the koban being locked.

He probably didn't wake up because he'd just worked a 12 hour shift and was exhausted. I know a lot of people who sleep like the dead. No crime here. No embarassment. No real news.

Frungy:

He probably didn't wake up because he'd just worked a 12 hour shift and was exhausted. I know a lot of people who sleep like the dead. No crime here. No embarassment. No real news.

I hit the "good" button after I finished reading your explanation of how the officer could have been recouping from a long shift and not on duty--before reading the last three sentences, with which I must disagree. There is considerable embarrassment and there was a crime. When somebody breaks into a police station and steals weapons, it is embarrassing, criminal and newsworthy.

"the burglars stole a police baton"

Hee hee!

police who works at koban usually wokrs for 24 hour duty in Japan. I know of some police officers who has to stay awake as much as 48 hours on koban duty.

gaihonjinJun. 08, 2013 - 10:12PM JST I hit the "good" button after I finished reading your explanation of how the officer could have been recouping from a long shift and not on duty--before reading the last three sentences, with which I must disagree. There is considerable embarrassment and there was a crime. When somebody breaks into a police station and steals weapons, it is embarrassing, criminal and newsworthy.

He stole a stick. A plastic stick. If you think it is embarassing for the police that someone risked getting tossed in jail to steal a stick then I think you have the wrong end of the stick. The criminal should be embarassed. Its like breaking into a bank and stealing one of the pens.

If a gun had been stolen then it would have been news. If the cop had been on duty and asleep it would have been news. Someone breaking into a police box and stealing a stick while the exhausted cop upstairs was asleep? Not news.

Considering you can buy those batons at any MA outlet, akiba or shop(Lows, etc) that caters to security guards. Kinda idiotic action.

**Why would anyone want to break into a police station anyway?????

Duh, Morry: 3am, pissed as farts, having a laugh? Taking the piss? It's called "fun"; something to tell your mates about the next day, at junior high school... Rites of passage; growing up. Better this than stabbing people in Akihabara, or shooting people (just about) everywhere in America. I suppose you've never done anything silly like this in your life.

He stole a stick. A plastic stick.

No, a weighted, telescoping, steel stick. It's the police we're talking about, not parking lot pointy-men.

Himajin.

Those are called steel-whips, different from a baton/night stick.

So the second half is upstairs off duty and asleep, the first half is off patrolling and the Koban is broken into,. Even if the second was awake - they are upstairs and would probably not make it downstairs in time.

not really any fault to the police really, quite a bit of courage (probably a bit of alcohol behind it ) with the thief though.;

HimajinJun. 08, 2013 - 11:22PM JST No, a weighted, telescoping, steel stick. It's the police we're talking about, not parking lot pointy-men.

Nope, a plastic stick. Look at the J-cops next time they walk past.

A weighted telescoping steel stick is pretty much useless for police work. You can't actually hit civilians with it since it pretty much guarantees a broken limb (or skull). This is a bad idea since major arteries run close to bones and this sort of thing can kill your suspect. It is the wrong shape to use to defend against knives, and it is not strong enough to use as an aid for joint locks.

A plastic stick on the other hand is just padded enough to hit someone and hurt them enough to cause bruising and make them calm down, but not so hard that it cracks their skull. The L shape of many police batons means it can be rested against the forearm to use as a shield against knife attacks, and the shape also makes it pretty handy for a lot of joint locks and holds.

Any police force using expandable batons isn't trying to subdue suspects, it is flat-out trying to kill them.

Kobans must have security cameras, surely. So shouldn't be too tricky to identify these dastardly baton purloiners.

http://www.yachiyo.ed.jp/ekayada/gakusyu/110/page048.html

HimajinJun. 09, 2013 - 09:43AM JST http://www.yachiyo.ed.jp/ekayada/gakusyu/110/page048.html

The picture you provided is not a Chiba police force officer. Hence it is utterly and completely irrelevant. Next time do some research.

Here are some pictures of actual Chiba city police officers...

http://www.police.pref.chiba.jp/police/police_department/yachiyo/images/notice/eastjapan_01.jpg

See that thing on the left side of the left police office in the picture? That's a Chiba City police officer with a ... drumroll plastic baton on his belt!!

And here's another just in case you thought it was a fluke or trick photography or something...

http://blog-imgs-15.fc2.com/z/x/r/zxrbwmg3/DSC01064.jpg

In Chiba city they use the traditional plastic baton. The criminal stole a plastic stick, not some high-tech nuclear-powered death-ray... a plastic stick.

Frungy, Himajin's link is to a picture of an officer from Yachiyo. Yachiyo is in Chiba Prefecture. Click 'top' on that page and it takes you to a picture of a police car with '千葉県警察'(Chiba-ken Keisatsu) printed on the side. Hard to see anything worthy of a drumroll in the tiny picture on your first link. The photo at your second link shows someone wearing a NYPD cap, who also seems to have 'NYPD' printed on his jacket and has hair much longer than they allow in Chiba Kenkei.

Oops.

cleoJun. 09, 2013 - 08:06PM JST Frungy, Himajin's link is to a picture of an officer from Yachiyo. Yachiyo is in Chiba Prefecture. Click 'top' on that page and it takes you to a picture of a police car with '千葉県警察'(Chiba-ken Keisatsu) printed on the side.

... so because the page has one picture of a police car from Chiba-ken then all of the police officers and equipment pictured on the site MUST be from Chiba-ken? I mean does it say ANYWHERE on the site that it is specific to Chiba-ken? Nope. Does it say under the picture that the police office is from Chiba-ken? No again.

Hard to see anything worthy of a drumroll in the tiny picture on your first link.

Try zooming in. Ctrl + mousewheel forward. If that fails copy the image into paint and zoom in. If that fails just lean reeeeeally close to your screen.

The photo at your second link shows someone wearing a NYPD cap, who also seems to have 'NYPD' printed on his jacket and has hair much longer than they allow in Chiba Kenkei. Oops.

Okay, fair cop (haha), I did get the wrong image there. Don't know why that came up when I search for Chiba-ken police.

But the first image I posted is from Chiba police's official website, and shows the cops there use plastic batons. You don't get much more definitive than the police's own official site showing an officer wearing the baton. That you just glanced at the image and didn't bother to zoom in doesn't make me wrong.

Breaking into a koban to steal a rubber stick sounds to me like the most pointless burglary in history. But what do I know...

Frungy -

I mean does it say ANYWHERE on the site that it is specific to Chiba-ken?

If the site is about Yachiyo police, which it is, and Yachiyo is in Chiba-ken, which it is, then yes everything on that site is specific to Chiba-ken. There's even a link in the menu to 千葉県警察本部の主なのりもの (transportation used by Chiba-ken keisatsu) and to a picture of the Chiba-ken Communications Centre where 110 calls are directed to.

Try zooming in.

Tried that, all I get is a grainy photo of the back view of a policeman with something straight hanging down by his left side. No indication of whether it's made of plastic or steel or anything else.

cleoJun. 09, 2013 - 10:42PM JST If the site is about Yachiyo police, which it is, and Yachiyo is in Chiba-ken, which it is, then yes everything on that site is specific to Chiba-ken. There's even a link in the menu to 千葉県警察本部の主なのりもの (transportation used by Chiba-ken keisatsu) and to a picture of the Chiba-ken Communications Centre where 110 calls are directed to.

Who is the site made by? Umm, also, the point at issue here is whether the batons used are regular plastic police batons or telescoping metal batons, not what transport the police use. I'm not quibbling about the make of car they drive. There is nothing on the page showing the baton on that website to indicate that it is used by the Chiba-ken police force, or is standard issue equipment for police anywhere in Japan.

Tried that, all I get is a grainy photo of the back view of a policeman with something straight hanging down by his left side. No indication of whether it's made of plastic or steel or anything else.

Actually that's all you need to see. The telescoping metal batons collapse down to a small package about the size of an ammo clip. They are only expanded when in use, and even if this was one it would be obvious since they taper sharply and normally have a large head on them. That clearly isn't a telescoping metal baton.

The regular police batons made of plastic (sometimes with a metal frame underneath) do not collapse. Ergo it is the regular police baton type. Ergo it is a plastic stick. There's nothing else it could be since the only other piece of equipment that the Japanese police carry that is that shape is the flashing baton they use for directing traffice, and those are bright orange plastic with a light inside.

Therefore we have photographic evidence from the Chiba-ken police force's official site that the Chiba-ken police force carry standard plastic non-collapsible batons, and that this was in all likelihood the type of baton stolen from the police station. These batons can be bought from any of a dozen stores, including martial arts stores, in Japan. I doubt there would be the same sort of hysteria if the headline read, "Koban broken into, kendo shinai stolen".

Thank you for acknowledging that you saw what I saw, and that I was correct. Have a nice night.

... but if you want to continue arguing that a site by some random person with a photograph of some random person't belt with a baton on it outweighs an official photograph from the official Chiba-ken website... well, have fun.

Here are some pictures of actual Chiba city police officers...

Where is Yachiyo then? Hmmmm...

By the way, can't you disagree in a pleasant manner, Frungy? No need for all the sarcasm. Your first link is coming up with a 404 message btw. Here's Chiba Police's site-

http://www.police.pref.chiba.jp/

What I posted above was a link to the official maker of "keibou' 警棒. I researched the object first and foremost. You can look on YouTube for 'keiboujustsu' （警棒術）and see how one works. The maker's site says they are metal. Guess they don't know what they are manufacturing....

＞Who is the site made by?

Looks like it could be the Yachiyo Board of Education?

the point at issue here is whether the batons used are regular plastic police batons or telescoping metal batons

I was replying to your claim that Himajin's link had nothing to do with Chiba Kenkei. The make of car isn't important. Wはt is important is that all the cars (and bikes, and boats) have 'Chiba Police' written on the side. Dead giveaway that the site is about Chiba Police.

it's not a crime to sleep because they work in shifts so i don't see what are some of you guys on about.

megosaaJun. 10, 2013 - 09:12AM JST it's not a crime to sleep because they work in shifts so i don't see what are some of you guys on about.

You'd think they'd keep a guy awake at the desk though, although of course they rarely do outside the city core. There are many koban outside stations around Saitama in which the lights are on but nobody is home. Not very convenient if you're trying to report something but have to run around the neighbourhood chasing down a cop on a bicycle.

I would say some other policemen or the Yakuza knew the policeman was taking a nap and decided to punish with embarassment.

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