Police officer arrested over theft of money from changing room at pub

1-) why do you get so many tickets you need to contest them?

Eh? No one was talking about getting ticketed. We were talking about police making demands to see anything other than your zairyuu card.

You're shifting the goalposts mate.

Garthgoyle

Today 01:56 pm JST

Again only if you are Japanese

> Not true. I've contested them a few times and so far I'm not in jail

Well 2 things.

1-) why do you get so many tickets you need to contest them?

( Driving in Japan near daily for 30 years got 2 tickets, one parking one turning lane only on a construction site cops waiting to catch everyone)

2-) if you really did then you are very lucky!

But if you deny (or if your violation was serious), your case will go on to the criminal procedure. There, the prosecutor will think of what to do with your case. If your violation was very small, then the prosecutor may decide not to prosecute. But if not, your case may go to the criminal court (even just for speeding). In that case, you will get a criminal record. If you get a criminal record, it may affect your immigration status when you want to renew your visa.

> For foreigners living in Japan, status of residence (visa) may be much more important than paying some fine. So it is important not to dishonestly deny about your violation.

https://sumikawa.net/legal-services/traffic-violation-in-japan/

There are several other lawyers site pointing out the same thing.

Tough guys.

In this case, just linguistic.

Tough guys.

LOL

Again only if you are Japanese

Not true. I've contested them a few times and so far I'm not in jail.

Garthgoyle

June 27 11:16 pm JST

Then decide the had the right to view all the content of my wallet pockets, car.

> Actually, you can say no. Yes, you need to show them your zairyu card but you don't need to show them anything else. If they say they're a cop, blah blah yada yada, they have no right to check your belongings unless you say yes. Which they will persuade you to say

Again only if you are Japanese.

Please people be careful on this,

Ask a lawyer that deals with non Japanese.

If they choose to push you will end up in police custody and they can hold you 23 days for no reason if they want and where will that get you? Out of work, fired, etc...

Here is the difference between Japanese and non Japanese.

A lawyer's site give this advice.

If you are stopped for a traffic violation and the officer is wrong you can go to court and contest it.

But the results could be very different for a Japanese and non Japanese if you loose.

By going to court the ticket becomes a minor criminal offense if found guilty.

This has no effect on a Japanese national, but on a foreigner it can end your stay in Japan as any "criminal" conviction means voiding your Visa and having to leave the country.

The protections the Japanese have under the constitution do not apply to non Japanese, this have been confirmed multiple times by the courts including the supreme Court.

painkiller

June 27 10:48 pm JST

AntiquesavingToday 09:02 pm JST

> Then decide the had the right to view all the content of my wallet pockets, car.

> This happened recently? They don't have the right to search you in that instance. Call the embassy and complain.

It was yesterday ( the day I wrote it).

Actually they do have the right, if you are Japanese they need a valid reason and if they do anyway a Japanese citizen can file a rights complaint based on constitutional rights.

But the government and courts have repeatedly said the constitution does not apply to non Japanese, (why do you think it is legal to place signs saying no Foreigners? Because it is legal)

So no idea where you get that they cannot search you, be careful with what is online.

You are a foreigner here you must at all time have your Zairiu card on you, you must comply to being search or detained, don't and you risk losing your visa or more.

38,500 yen for loosing of complete career?

well guy simply wanted try something new in his life...?

Wtf! Those employees working hard and this Lil a$$ stole their money? Hope his department they will give him a pubishment?

Many bad cops in Japan

recently many robberies by policeman and even rapes?

Then decide the had the right to view all the content of my wallet pockets, car.

Actually, you can say no. Yes, you need to show them your zairyu card but you don't need to show them anything else. If they say they're a cop, blah blah yada yada, they have no right to check your belongings unless you say yes. Which they will persuade you to say.

AntiquesavingToday  09:02 pm JST

Then decide the had the right to view all the content of my wallet pockets, car.

This happened recently? They don't have the right to search you in that instance. Call the embassy and complain.

AntiquesavingToday  09:02 pm JST

How appropriate.

I wish I had seen this earlier.

I was exiting the bank (ATM) and was getting into my car (bank provided parking) when 3 police stopped me young man old man female.

Ask for my zairiu card and driver's licence.

Then decide the had the right to view all the content of my wallet pockets, car.

Gaijin I have no right to say no.

But I protested.

One cop Said "do you have anything you don't want me to see"

I could have replied " no just don't want you to steal my things!"

Then show them the article.

Missed my chance.

After explaining what happened to you, you still get thumbs down. Wow, some people are allergic to the truth.

How appropriate.

I wish I had seen this earlier.

I was exiting the bank (ATM) and was getting into my car (bank provided parking) when 3 police stopped me young man old man female.

Ask for my zairiu card and driver's licence.

Then decide the had the right to view all the content of my wallet pockets, car.

Gaijin I have no right to say no.

But I protested.

One cop Said "do you have anything you don't want me to see"

I could have replied " no just don't want you to steal my things!"

Then show them the article.

Missed my chance.

Japan is safe as long as there isn't a drunk omari san around, apparently.

That's why no matter where I am, my money, ID cards, etc never leave my pockets unless there's a lockable safe on the premises. People are always trying to tell me these things don't happen in ''Safety Japan."

Same here. I never bought into the safety japan bs. Japan is not all that different than any other country.

Alcohol is I believe an inhibitions suppressor, having got well and truly rat arsed his underlying inclinations came to the fore; good job he will no longer be in the police force!

That's why no matter where I am, my money, ID cards, etc never leave my pockets unless there's a lockable safe on the premises. People are always trying to tell me these things don't happen in ''Safety Japan."

Noguchi was still at the pub and reportedly heavily intoxicated at the time

He remembers and admit it... hahah this is new!

MilesTeg - I didn't know izakaya's were open at 11:00am...

Many of the chain izakayas open at 11am to catch the lunch crowd. Some open earlier.

Hopefully this cop’s career is over it’s likely he has committed similar thefts in the past

I didn't know izakaya's were open at 11:00am........I guess there are some who start drinking before noon.....prison time and a failed career over a piddly 38,500yen.

There goes his life. He'll be trading his badge for handcuffs.