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Another death (of the guilty Aoba) will not bring back any or, all of the 36 people who died because of his crime.

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Great news!

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When society decides that the death penalty is wrong, then it's time to change it. If society doesnt care, or is for it, then leave it to the authorities. But please do it in a timely manner and humanely as possible.

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This is definitely a crime that was brutal and horrific, so I understand why the prosecution would want to delete this person from humanity. However, I think capital punishment is misapplied far too often to be a tool in modern society. Sending him to jail for the rest of his life seems better.

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Nice if this monster could at least express sincere remorse.

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“But please do it in a timely manner and humanely as possible.”

Sounds like an oxymoron to me. Could you suggest some humane ways of executing death-row inmates?

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MeiyouwentiToday 06:10 pm JST

“But please do it in a timely manner and humanely as possible.”

Sounds like an oxymoron to me. Could you suggest some humane ways of executing death-row inmates?

Lethal injection is pretty good. People claim they see wincing with it but I doubt it if it is administered correctly. Same thing is done for euthanizing pets and people as I understand it.

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I am pro with the death penalty to be honest. This by no means is to say that there has been innocent people sent to death, but that is not a fault of the "death penalty" but more of the judicial system (and again, that problem is not endemic of the Japanese judiciary system but to ALL judiciary system around the World).

As for the crime fitting the punishment, I think it does but probably not in the way some people think.

Just an excersice of thought, which do you think will cause you more anciety, waiting for the order for your excecution or the excecution itself.... personally, the waiting is the important part.

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Daniel NeagariToday 06:18 pm JST

Just an excersice of thought, which do you think will cause you more anciety, waiting for the order for your excecution or the excecution itself.... personally, the waiting is the important part.

And that is why the surprise executions Japan practices violate human rights.

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Surprice excecutions???

By that you mean, the order to be excecuted when you are in the death row?

So what, let's take the US for example, they order the excecution a week before the act? so that week is just OK with you? you will be suffering 7 days before the act...

I think, just be death the next day is less anciety and stress than waiting for the day to come.

Also, I have no knowledge for it but other countries with the death penalty how do they give the order? with days, weeks, years of advancement??

As a person that suffers with anciety, knowing that the day will come in my case would cause much more damage.

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If killing by a private person is wrong, then killing by the state is wrong. Capital punishment is a relic of the past and should be replaced by better education and mental health support systems. Killing someone after the crime does not help the victims, much better to prevent the crime in the first place.

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Daniel NeagariToday 06:27 pm JST

Also, I have no knowledge for it but other countries with the death penalty how do they give the order? with days, weeks, years of advancement??

It can be years of advance notice in the US. Probably not good but should be at least weeks. You are right that awaiting your execution is stressful but what's even more stressful is not knowing whether tomorrow is the day. Basically every day is a nightmare in the latter scenario. No one can realistically just pretend that the state isn't getting the gallows ready for them. Even nature gives you a heads up when your health is failing.

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If killing by a private person is wrong, then killing by the state is wrong.

hmmm, I think the thought of State as one individual is wrong. The State as a figure is very different from a person. Specifically, as a person you cannot negotiate treaties, secure boders, create laws and manage those laws, defend the country and declare war.

There are many instanteces that if an idividual do it is wrong, but if the State do it is ok... i.e. create laws... so State sanctioned killing (note that i am using as ugly wording as possible) may not be wrong.

Capital punishment is a relic of the past and should be replaced by better education and mental health support systems. Killing someone after the crime does not help the victims, much better to prevent the crime in the first place.

Yes in an idealize utopia sure. But better education and mental health system does not guarantee a safer /peaceful society. Many horrors have been done by people with good education.

You can be mentally healthy but that does not mean you will not comite a crime.

I suppose is good to try to achieve an utopian society as you say but it will never be achieved.

What is a relic of the past? death penalty? but then imprisonment is also a relic of the past. as well as education, religion, speach. war, agriculture, immigration, lies, reading, those are also "relic of the past", but those are essential for what is our culture as humans... may be violence and killing are so too.

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Basically every day is a nightmare in the latter scenario. No one can realistically just pretend that the state isn't getting the gallows ready for them. Even nature gives you a heads up when your health is failing.

The wating for the excecution order is "inhuman" either way... I understand that "giving" people time to "make peace" with themselves may look as humanitarian.

...But then again just "get over with it quickly" may also be humane.

All depends on each person. Sure there may more views for one stance rather than the other but it is very subjective.

If you are in the death row (wherever country), the end is the same. I suppose, the moment the sentence is given that person should begun to "make peace". The time will come either way.

Just like natural death, just that in the death penalty, it is "controlled"

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No matter what the crime, governments should not have the ability under law to put citizens to death.

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Really good news. This animal killed 36 good and innocent souls and injured many more. He destroyed hundreds of people's lives.

Hanging is what he deserves. He has zero right to be fed, clothed and sheltered at extraordinary expense to the Japanese taxpayer for years. No tears shed for him, anywhere.

Killing someone after the crime does not help the victims, much better to prevent the crime in the first place.

Someone is not living in the real world. The families of these innocent victims would want justice - and that means death to the scum. Japanese strongly support executions.

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Good.

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Will the dangling lifeless body of Shinji Aoba, at the end of a hangman's rope bring justice and solace, comfort and consolation to the bereaved.

Enough to be able to move past such grief?

No doubt some or all the families deceased loved ones would like to see, witness Shinji Aoba suffer in eternal damnation.

If there is a hell on earth Shinji Aoba needs to be up to his neck in the same baptism of fire he inflicted on the victims.

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I didn't think so many people would die and now I think I went too far

Well, whoops, I guess. Mr. Aoba could die 36 times over and it wouldn't be enough to atone for what he did; unfortunately, he only has his one miserable life to offer for all those lives he took. Naturally, if the death penalty isn't given, he should spend the rest of his days in a little cell, ideally with only copies of his novels as toilet paper.

Aoba himself nearly died in the fire, suffering 90-percent burns and reportedly needing 12 operations.

He regained consciousness weeks later and was said to have sobbed with relief after undergoing a procedure that restored his ability to speak.

That he was significantly nursed back to some semblance of health from burns self-inflicted as he was murdering 36 people is already more than enough kindness for him.

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Nope, it will save the taxpayers a lot of money however

Will the dangling lifeless body of Shinji Aoba, at the end of a hangman's rope bring justice and solace, comfort and consolation to the bereaved.

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Interesting everyone here is talking about for or against the death penalty I personally think that Shinji Aoba wish that on himself. I personally think that because "Aoba himself nearly died in the fire, suffering 90-percent burns and reportedly needing 12 operations". "He regained consciousness weeks later and was said to have sobbed with relief after undergoing a procedure that restored his ability to speak". One would think why keep this guy alive to only kill him later? Tax payers paid for him to have 12 operations and he cried after restoring his ability to speak" I wonder during his speechless ordeal did he experience hell on earth, is it he cried because they kept him alive and he wanted to die. Perhaps he will live long enough to endure his deadly past and witness the darkness below and feel the pain once the bottom falls from under him and he is left hanging like unwanted fruit on a tree.

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Have to agree with the comments about humane manner. It's not the method, it's the timing.

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Alternatively, they could just let him go, as is. His daily life has got to be terrible with all those burns. You could deny him of medical coverage, which would likely drive him to kill himself considering the physical pain he is probably in.

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The usual sympathy for the murderer, "death sentence is barbaric" nonsense. After burning alive 36 people, nothing is to cruel. Hanging is almost instant death. And no he won't get very long notice, but neither did the 36 who died screaming in agony in the fire.

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Because of the burns on his body, he may have to be short-drop-hanged or risk the chance of being beheaded. He will kick with his eyes and tongue bulged out before swinging both legs forward and backward and will also have bowel waste staining his underpants. It takes 15 minutes of agony in this manner and his body will jerk around on the noose from post-partum nerve reactions.

He deserve this and I hope Abe killer get the same method as well.

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Those people, at least most of them, did not die of smoke inhalation. They felt all the pain of burning alive; feeling their bodies felling all the pain of dying by fire itself. I can't imagine the pain.

I'm against the death penalty on principle. The state killing just one innocent person puts blood on the hands of every one in the county. BUT

Put the onus on me. Make me alone carry the burden of putting him to death. I would do it. I would do it without remorse and I would not lose sleep over it. If by some unlikely chance he is innocent, punish me (alone). Some crimes are intolerable. Life in prison would be hell for me every day, but this guy deserves to wait in his cell until the day of the execution. That would be double hell for him: and then let me kill him.

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At the end of the day they skirted the fraud allegations and the fact that their building was inadequate to handle any kind of fire. Those people died because of management not just because he set the place on fire. They should have had an exist strategy and training. Corporations don't get hung.

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I think he’s a beast but I’m against the death sentence for multiple moral reasons you see.

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Many who are against the death penalty for "moral reasons" fail to actually elaborate what that means. Do explain to us why should my taxmoney be wasted on keeping this animal alive for the rest of his misebable life, instead of paying the 100$ for the rope?

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Ebisen

If only life were as simple as you make out, however it isn't. It costs more on average to the tax payer to have a person executed than serve life in prison. Many reasons for this, can easily be in online.

Moral objections are of course valid, wrongful convictions are common for death sentence cases. Allowing the state to kill is objectionable as they can abuse their power.

We also see severely retarded people executed, some with the mental capabilities of a small child not to mention those with mental illnesses wrongly diagnosed.

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It costs more on average to the tax payer to have a person executed than serve life in prison. Many reasons for this, can easily be in online.

It actually doesn't, except in the US (but there a bag of saline water also costs 2500-3000 USD, so yeah...) Online? Please do share one link about the execution cost analysis in Japan, if it's so freely available online.

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TaiwanIsNotChinaJan. 23 06:14 pm JST

Lethal injection is pretty good. People claim they see wincing with it but I doubt it if it is administered correctly. Same thing is done for euthanizing pets and people as I understand it.

The problem is it's often NOT administered correctly. Doctors sign the Hippocratic oath, so they are not allowed to take part in the execution of people. Instead, unqualified/un(der)trained personnel are left to administer the lethal injection, and they often botch it, leading to hours of immense suffering. It's pretty horrible, really.

I reckon the guillotine is still probably the fastest way to bite it.

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Hang ‘em High

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