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SimondB
Why were they allowed to fly out?
skaizun
Wondering why 200 customers didn't help stop the fray.
Disillusioned
Why? Because it was a group of a dozen or so tanked up international rugby players, not a group of unruly salarymen. Would you jump in to stop them?
They should facing severe disciplinary action from the world cup comity and from their own rugby team management.
Vince Black
Sore losers
Louie
Letting off some steam. Lolz
Ah_so
A crime for which they deserve punishment.
quercetum
They were drunk. They don’t remember what happened. Case closed.
Sami Shlimon
All should been arrested and fully-fledged prosecuted as anyone who break law in Japan.
Kobe White Bar Owner
Who said rugby was a hooligans game played by gentleman?
nandakandamanda
On TV they showed ruined sound equipment, broken windows and holes punched in walls, adding up to about 4 million JPY in damage.
Ganbare Japan!
Unforgivable. They played badly and were angry, but no need to take it out on a local business in Kumamoto by going on a rampage. Summon the Uruguay Ambassador, make them pay for all damages.
Toshihiro
Rowdy people are rowdy people no matter wherever they may find themselves be. I hate to be the one to say this but when the 2020 Olympics start, you can expect more wild crowds to flood the country and more cases like this would happen a lot more.
sourpuss
Way to ruin your country-men's image. Did they not get the memo about being sports ambassadors?
papigiulio
This is a joke right?
Either way, shame they could leave without repercussions.
alwaysspeakingwisdom
Wondering why 200 customers didn't help stop the fray.
How do you that they didn't?
JohnDigsJapan
Aren’t these the same players who we so touched by playing at Kamaishi Memorial Stadium? So much for being caught up in the moment.
Bugle Boy of Company B
Ask the Uruguay ambassador to pay for damages - or receive a dis-invitation from the Olympics next year.
Disillusioned
"Wondering why 200 customers didn't help stop the fray."
Um, perhaps because the weren't stopped. Just perhaps! (roll eyes)
sakurasuki
Because they have smaller body size than most of rugby player.
sakurasuki
Then local Japanese will start to think foreigners are rude, without have any clue which country they are coming from.
kurisupisu
‘pulled apart a stuffed bear’
Oh , the shame...
BeerDeliveryGuy
Let’s see..
broken wall mirror: 20,000Y each
Drywall panels: 1,000Y each
DJ turntables: 300,000Y
Amp and mixer: 300,000Y
plus cleanup, and hired workers cost, I’d say 4mill is about right.
Toasted Heretic
Yep, it's not cheap fitting and running a venue.
Kumagaijin
This all followed a "drinking session" which happened to follow a "rugby session". So, I'm not all that surprised, but you wouldn't expect this type of behavior from the Japan team or the All Blacks. Much more professional.
BeerDeliveryGuy
I’m reckoning the “stuffed bear” was one of those huge man-sized things ones that easily cost several hundred to several thousand dollars, depending on the brand, and they destroyed it by using it as a tackle dummy. Most likely while being cheered on by drunken patrons.
Kumagaijin
Japan team would have stuck around to clean up the bar after.
Ganbare Japan!
It was a "Kumamon" bear, the world famous mascot of Kumamoto. They are real expensiv, perhaps 200,000 Yen. This is going to be an enormous bill sent to Uruguay Embassy by the nightclub.
robert maes
Typical response from the LOC2019, already avoiding any possible responsibility, which I think they do not have.
But this was certainly NOT in their own time, they were here as part of the national selection of their country, that means, they are part of that selection during the entire stay. Not just on the field.
Remember the Japanese basketball players with the prostitutes in Indonesia ?
The Uruguayan federation should pay for the damage and they can recover it from the players.
Joe Yan
Pro DJ and sound equipment are very expensive so 4mil yen isnt too crazy.
Norman Goodman
Yep. The carnage continues even as we speak!
No. Obviously they did stop at some point but we don't when or why. The police may have been called after they were stopped.
goldorak
I wouldn't 'expect' it from Japan and/or the AB (and most other NT btw) but i wouldnt be 'that' surprised either (look at what happened with the crusaders during their SA tour a few months ago, NH/SR clubs on tours are no stranger to pub fights/ shenanigans either, same with NT remember Tindall, Bastareaud !? ;)
Rowdy 'third-half' / mad Monday celebrations etc may not be as common as they used to be, they're still part of the game especially in the amateur ranks.
The Uruguayan federation should obviously pay for the damage and deal with it internally (fine/ban the players involved, up to them).
Not a good look but we're only human hey! (could have happened to Hanyu or the table tennis blokes, although probably much earlier in the night!)
oldman_13
Punish them fully.
sakurasuki
Since this team are guest, especially to show Japan being nice host for Olympic 2020. So they'll let go this one.
taj
Not a Kumamon, but it was a large bear.
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2019/10/a05a2d5e80a6-rugby-uruguay-players-assault-staff-damage-kumamoto-restaurant.html
Ex_Res
Way to ruin your country-men's image. Did they not get the memo about being sports ambassadors?
I'm sure that the good people of Kumamoto are more intelligent than that.
Marsh Mallow
Bacon egg? ...Okay then
Mike_Oxlong
No kidding!
A friend owns a few bars in town. Damage from drunk patrons occurs regularly. One time he had to track down a group of unruly schoolteachers who had destroyed some property and did a runner. This is simply a case of Chicken Little.
Ex_Res
It was a "Kumamon" bear, the world famous mascot of Kumamoto. They are real expensiv, perhaps 200,000 Yen. This is going to be an enormous bill sent to Uruguay Embassy by the nightclub.
World famous? Well this is the first time I have ever heard of this "world famous bear".
Paddington Bear obviously has competition.
Still, one should always behave in public. I believe that they have apologised.
starpunk
Ain't no joke. 4M yen is big money, These idiots did some serious trashing here.
To say the least, and grossly immature at that.
Whether it's a Kumamon or even a teddy bear, these sulking drunken losers took out their frustration on a poor defensive stuffed bear. No class at all, man. No class!
PerformingMonkey
What does that even mean?
Laguna
Lucky for them it wasn't a Kumamon. We're relatively tolerant here in Kumamoto, but we would have mauled them back.
Ex_Res
For some peculiar reason, I find this extremely funny!!!
Actually, I have to laugh too. (even though it's not funny)
So a bit of camaraderie gets a little out of hand, it is seen in Japan as crime of the century.
They have apologised, and I am sure that the correct recompense will be given to the bar. When I say correct recompense, that which would be the norm in Japan and not the Foreign Inflationary Recompense.
Then local Japanese will start to think foreigners are rude, without have any clue which country they are coming from.
Hardly, as I say, I think that most Japanese are more intelligent than that.
WilliB
skyzun:
You want to mess with a rowdy drunk rugby team? OK fine. You go first, I have your back...
WilliB
Beerdeliveryguy:
You forgot the stuffed bear!
BeerDeliveryGuy
Right. I also forgot to mention that those prices could easily go 3 to 5 times higher depending on the grade and quality of the items.
Ex_Res
Right. I also forgot to mention that those prices could easily go 3 to 5 times higher depending on the grade and quality of the items.
Prices in Japan usually go up depending on how affluent the Japanese perceive the offending foreigners country is.
BeerDeliveryGuy
If the club decides to press charges for damages, the court will determine the amount to be compensated based on an insurance company’s assessment and the sale price of the item/s damaged. Rich or poor, foreign or not, the prices are generally the same.
WA4TKG
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2019/10/a05a2d5e80a6-rugby-uruguay-players-assault-staff-damage-kumamoto-restaurant.html
Looks like they knifed the bear from behind. Sounds about right.
Mike_Oxlong
Video of the incident is circulating on social media. There was no tackle. There was a shove. The incident has been blown out of proportion. Stupid crap like this happens nightly with locals in cities around the country. This is a stunt to squeeze Uruguay to fork over whatever money is asked for real fast.
commanteer
Oh, right. Japan just decided to shake down some rugby players as they were hosting the world cup.
In civilized countries, when this happens, the people are generally arrested and made to pay for damages. If it happens nightly where you are from, I wonder how any of the bars stay in business.
commanteer
Evidence of this? If somebody smashes up my business, I am under no obligation to find the cheapest possible replacements and repairs to save some idiot's money. I wouldn't be wasting my time on it at all if the guys hadn't smashed things up.
The place had to close for a couple nights and lost that business, the owner and the staff had to take their time to deal with it, there was the general trouble caused... all this on top of repair costs.
4 million yen sounds pretty light to me. They should be grateful.
Ex_Res
Evidence of this? If somebody smashes up my business, I am under no obligation to find the cheapest possible replacements and repairs to save some idiot's money. I wouldn't be wasting my time on it at all if the guys hadn't
Evidence is hard to find. Most foreigners are arrested and make an out of court settlement to avoid prison, and get a suspended sentence. Judges rubber stamp the plaintiffs (often inflationary) demands.
commanteer
In case like this, that's fine with me. If the guy smashing the bar is worried about costs, he should have asked the price before he started smashing.
Sceptical
Exact opposite of the Canada's rugby team help cleanup efforts in Kamaishi after game canceled by typhoon.
Mauro Mdns
Who's Paddington Bear? some famous bear from Australia? NZ? kind of the aussie Ted...
Chip Star
You do realize the world is larger than Japan, correct? This means that just because Kumamon is famous throughout Japan does not make it world famous.
Chip Star
Easily the best post here.
BeerDeliveryGuy
Which is exactly what Kiefer Sutherland did when drunk at a London hotel and destroyed a Christmas tree. He asked, “how much is that tree? I don’t like it, it needs to go.” When the hotel staff informed him of the price, he dive-tackled the tree while yelling, “I love this place.”
You can see the video all over YouTube.
kurisupisu
A bar near me is known for violence and assaults on both men and women but it never makes the news due to the victims and assailants being natives...
oldman_13
What person in their right mind would even think to minimize what these players did, or disagree they should be harshly punished. Alcohol is absolutely no excuse for bad actions anywhere
commanteer
The team were welcomed home as heroes. Nothing in the media or their official Twitter feed even mentions this, though there are some locals posting replies criticizing them for their behavior within the feed.
Worse than the incident itself, it's rather shameful how the Uruguay team has failed to even apologize, offer to pay for damages or express any contrition or even acknowledge the incident. Drunkenness cold be an excuse for the damage, but what is their excuse for walking away from any responsibility for their actions?
starpunk
Paddington Bear is the main character in a children's book series. I remember them fondly as a kid. A couple movies based on him were made, and the second one (came out a year or two ago) is really really GOOD.
Jalapeno
"I was drunk and don't remember" should have been the stock response.
The most heinous of the offenses: destroying the stuffed bear.
If the bear was Kumamon, then they should answer to the wrath of all those who worship Kumamon.