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SDF officer denies shoplifting at drugstore, saying ‘I just forgot to pay’

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Police in Shinto, Gunma Prefecture, have arrested a 43-year-old Japan Ground Self-Defense Force officer on suspicion of shoplifting medicine and other items from a drugstore.

According to police, Nobuhiko Hirano, who is a lieutenant stationed at Camp Somahara, has denied the charge and quoted him as saying, “I just forgot to pay and walked out of the store,” TV Asahi reported.

Police said Hirano is accused of stealing approximately 5,300 yen worth of medicines, food and other items from the drugstore at around 2:30 pm on Saturday.

A store employee saw Hirano walk out without paying and alerted a police officer who just happened to be in the store on another matter. The police officer detained Hirano in the parking lot.

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He could have forgotten to pay. I've done that before but went straight back in to pay.

If he's neurodiverse like me, then his short-term memory might not be as strong as that of neurotypical people.

If it's his first-time 'offence', let him go.

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 store employee saw Hirano walk out without paying

Must be slow day at that drug store, many drug store can be really busy day, no one will have eyes on their run away customer at all.

-12 ( +3 / -15 )

The key thing here is did he conceal these things or was he just carrying them in his hands?

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It certainly could have been an honest mistake. I walked out of a restaurant once without paying. I'd been talking to the staff and the manager, all of whom I knew personally, and just bailed. Went back the next day to pay and the manager was relieved because his books hadn't balanced.

The key thing here is did he conceal these things or was he just carrying them in his hands?

It's a good point, but "medicines, food and other items" suggest, to me at least, that they would have at least had to have been in a basket, if not a bag. Might be a bit much to carry in your hands.

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I once forgotten to pay because I was exhausted and stressful. But the security man was so polite to direct me to the cashier. I apologised profusely.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

He may have put them in his personal eco-bag (or 'My Bag') but this is discouraged with signs.

Have you seen these signs?

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/08/30/national/personal-bags-japan-shoplifting-plastic-bags/

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METATTOKYO,

LOL. I've done that, too. Completely forgot about picking up a basket and walked around a 7/11 stuffing my intended purchases into my opaque bag. It wasn't until the look of utter bewilderment on the clerk's face when I dumped that full bag onto the counter in front of him that I realised what I'd done.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Shoplifters of the World

Unite and take over!

Shoplifters of the World

Hand it over, hand it over.

I walked out of our local home center once with a tape measure I'd put in my pocket (force of habit) after using it to measure another product. I only noticed when I got home. I didn't take it back in case my attempts to return it were met with a jobsworth type who would call the police. Even routine things with the police can take hours. Its also a nicer tape measure than the 100 yen store ones I normally buy.

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METATTOKYO,

Yes, me too. Luckily I wasn’t quite out the door with the single item before I realized.

Having a bunch of meds, hmmm. Seems rather unlikely you could forget a handful

7 ( +7 / -0 )

How could we possibly and truly assess the frame of mind of this SDF officer?

All these comments, as usual in the comment section of JT, are pure speculation.

Humanity thrives on baseless assumptions, speculations, conjectures, and many others, used as a means to fend off the anxiety of not knowing the future, which is a baseless absurdity, a projection of their imagination.

And not only that, they transport and superpose their anxieties and delirious imaginations, to any other topic that is not even related to themselves. A common human tendency to fill gaps in knowledge with speculation and assumption, often without basis or relevance to the subject at hand. See, the effect of this conduct in the news? No? Humanity is like a blind walking in a pitch-dark room.

Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha!

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

I believe him absolutely-same thing happened to me after getting off a bath bus…

3 ( +6 / -3 )

"I just forgot"

"I was drunk (...and I do not remember)"

"I did not know it was illegal".

But to be a JGSDF officer and use that excuse - absolutely brilliant. So what if it implicitly calls into question his competence.

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Old SausageToday  10:26 am JST

How could we possibly and truly assess the frame of mind of this SDF officer?

All these comments, as usual in the comment section of JT, are pure speculation.

Humanity thrives on baseless assumptions, speculations, conjectures, and many others, used as a means to fend off the anxiety of not knowing the future, which is a baseless absurdity, a projection of their imagination.

And not only that, they transport and superpose their anxieties and delirious imaginations, to any other topic that is not even related to themselves. A common human tendency to fill gaps in knowledge with speculation and assumption, often without basis or relevance to the subject at hand. See, the effect of this conduct in the news? No? Humanity is like a blind walking in a pitch-dark room.

Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha!

I agree that it's difficult to know exactly what the SDF officer was thinking. Without more information, speculation is natural. However, sometimes informed guesses based on experience can be helpful. Perhaps if we knew more about the situation, we could make some more educated inferences.

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I've done that before, by accident. I think a lot of people have.

It was likely just a mistake, and unless there's proof to the contrary, there is plenty of reasonable doubt here that an actual crime was committed.

So, drop the charges, cops.

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I too faced similar situation as my short term memory is different from others. I get easily distracted and forget what i am currently doing. But luckily i remember the original task after few mins. It looks like genetic as my father and son has similar issue.

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I have done the opposite a few times. Lined up at the register, paid my things, and then left the shop completely forgetting to take with me what I bought.

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and let him pay for his things.

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If he was seen by cashier, why did he not go and yell at him as his job would require (except if running away) ?

A few years ago, I bought at Uniqlo a few items by putting the items inside the dedicated automated space which counts the price.

The machine did not count one item, without me and my mother in law knowing.

The security devices must have been triggered because we were leaving and a clerk lady ran after us (first time ever I saw that). But she did not call us thieves to start with. And all things explained, it was just a plain mistake surely from the machine.

I even got some % off the price since I was a tourist !

And yes it is easy to forget something for a moment if you are stressed.

It is so a pity that Japantoday could report the verbal statement but not the video one showing what happened...

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japanguyToday  11:37 am JST

I too faced similar situation as my short term memory is different from others. I get easily distracted and forget what i am currently doing. But luckily i remember the original task after few mins. It looks like genetic as my father and son has similar issue.

Have you sought a diagnosis? It might be worth checking out.

https://screening.mhanational.org/screening-tools/adhd/

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Happened to me once at the self checkout lane at the local Aeon.

Scanned and bagged my items, forgot to insert my credit card, walked out with a full bag of groceries when the self checkout lane attendant ran after me and politely informed me that I forgot to pay.

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alerted a police officer who just happened to be in the store on another matter

all kinds of problems happening at this drug store.

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If he didn't pay and walked out the door, it was shoplifting. Ban him from the store/chain and make him pay 10x the cost of the items in restitution. Regardless of the "why", it isn't up to the store or the law to determine any extenuating circumstances. If he has a medical condition, then it is his responsibility to figure out techniques to prevent himself from theft.

We've all left stuff that we paid for in a store. That doesn't violate a law.

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