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'Soapland' manager arrested for hiring 13-year-old girl

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Police said Tuesday they have arrested the 44-year-old manager of a "soapland" in Kobe's Fukuhara district for hiring a 13-year-old girl.

According to police, Chikara Kamimura, the manager of the "soapland" -- one of many Japanese euphemisms for sex clubs -- was arrested on a charge of violating anti-prostitution laws, TV Asahi reported.

Police say the girl was put to work in May of last year, when she was a second grader in junior high school. She used identification papers of an acquaintance in her 20s to pass off as her own, police said.

Kamimura has denied the charges, and was quoted by investigators as saying that he didn't think the girl was a minor.

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Kamimura has denied the charges, and was quoted by investigators as saying that he didn’t think the girl was a minor.

Yeah..right

What a pig!

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I am sure we are going to hear from many people about how there is no way a 13 year old doe (my word for a teen female, teen male being a buck) could possibly look 20. I am not going to say its common, but I have seen many.

The best example was while teaching at elementary school. One day some teachers and I were seeing the kids off when a woman in high heels, fashionable clothes and make-up walked by, paying us no notice. We all thought she was a mother come to pick up her kid, but then I realized it was a girl who graduated from elementary school just a few months ago.

That doe had always been rather developed. And don't think it strange that we saw her probably before her school day ended. She skipped a lot of school, and had trouble fitting in for being so advanced.

Then of course we have Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver. She really was 13 in that movie. I first saw the movie from the middle, and had no idea either of the prostitutes standing by the car were so young.

So yes, it is quite possible she looked 20 or more. There are does out there like that.

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Doesn't matter if she 'looks' 20. SHE IS 13. Illegal and of story.

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And clearly the guy knew she was underage as she was "given the identification papers of an acquaintance in her 20s to pass off as her own".

But what really makes me cringe - even more than the slime running the place - is the fact that her parents clearly either had no idea where she was at night and didnt care either way, OR even worse knew exactly where she was and were condoning it.

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Wait...do anti-prostitution laws forbid having prostitutes that are minors or for prostitution as a whole?

Sad for a 13 year old to be "welcomed" into adulthood in such a way...

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He didn't think she was 13. Think that should be enough to close the case with nothing but a warning for the J-cops.

"Come back when you're 15".

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Hardly surprising when the mizu shobai attract women who look young(as in low teen young), so the guy running the place was likely in the know or at best didnt care, either way lock him up I say!

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nicky,

she may have worked there during the day, but clearly the parents are likley not paying attention or just dont give a ........

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Ah, ok GW - didnt think these places were open during the daytime! How innocent am I??! I was stopped on the street in Shinjuku one time and offered a "job" in one - I couldnt stop laughing! I was 6 months pregnant at the time! Lovely jovely!

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I think the girl is just as responsible for this as the man is. She lied about her age and provided fake papers. If he had any sense or instinct he probably new she was lieing though. They both deserve punishment.

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"I think the girl is just as responsible for this as the man is."

jesse: He's 44, she's 13.

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offered a "job" in one - I couldnt stop laughing! I was 6 months pregnant at the time! Lovely jovely!

Thats likely why you were offered the job, its one of the accepted perversions here..........................

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Lolita...

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I think it's more disturbing that a 13-year old tried to get a job at a soap land that the mgr hiring her. Why would someone so young wanna sell herself?! Money?

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Yes, I'm sure the girl had no idea what she was getting involved in....give me a break! Those Gucci handbags won't buy themselves!

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She should be prosecuted for false pretences, fraud, prostitution, idendtity theft. She is a lieing cheating naughty little %^&, slap her with charges now while she has a chance to change her wicked ways.

Maybe just maybe the guy didnt realise she was so young, maybe he did, but either way the girl should be disciplined too.

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This country has some serious soul searching to do. The simple fact that this kid is near a red light district is bad enough. Not sure the infatuation for teenage girls will ever go away. They sell 18 yr old girls right in the conbini in magazines and there is an appetite for it so perhaps all parties should take a hit.

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Blame a 13 year old? You people are way off base here.

-11 ( +7 / -15 )

How did the cops find out?

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I'm forever blowing bubbles...

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Why'd I get a thumbs down?! You think it's OK for a 13-year old to get a job at a soapland?!

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These scummy places are all YAKUZA, Japanese MAFIA run and controlled soaplands, what will the KOBE POLICE do?? Ask for more bribes from their local yakuza to try and sweep this under the rug, or for Japan, under the TATAMI?? Sure, 13 looking like a 20 year old?? Yeah right! Japan is full of LORIKON, the Lolita Complex pervs that get excited my elementary and even younger girls, a country that needs to really, really self reflect and this is happening to a Japanese 13 year old, just imagine what these pigs do when they go to 3rd world countries!

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@my2sense

"This country has some serious soul searching to do. "

Let's not generalize one incident into a whole country, shall we ?

Just because America has many rapists, murderers, child abusers, sex slaves doesn't mean majority of the people over there are bad. It just means that there are always bad apples, in this case irresponsible parents who are not paying attention to their kids.

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I'm playing neutral on this one. I've seen teen and pre-teen stars on TV that definitely look much older then thier real age..not only in Japan, but around the globe.

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The girl is just going to go out and employ herself somewhere else...

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@ Eduardo Gonzales

Lol! Don't be so surprised. The Japanese law even permits the simple possession of child pornography. Which is f@#$%ing disgusting! Shock? Well, welcome to Japan!

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Blame a 13 year old? You people are way off base here.

Care to expound? Don't try to compare Japan's laws, education system, parenting, or anything else either for that matter with the USA when it comes to sex, prostitution, or soaplands, since you are in the USA right?

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... and business in his soapland will double when people get word that he employs underage girls. Ahh, the glory of capitalism and supply and demand.

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Hopefully, the business kept records so the police can track down the clients.

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These are not the sort of places that keep very good records. Unless they used their credit card, it was a cash deal to a customer.

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Namby said "That doe ......." And you teach at an elementary school?

There are does out there like that.

Sensitive views.

Although will point out that the age of consent laws globally are only about 100 yeaqrs old. Pretty recently it was normal for women to marry and conceive in early teens.

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Blame a 13 year old? You people are way off base here.

I understand what your saying paulinusa... but just because you're thirteen doesn't mean you have zero accountability. They need to give her more than just a slap on the wrist. Why wouldn't she just go out and do it again when shes 14? A lesson needs to be learnt.

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And clearly the guy knew she was underage as she was "given the identification papers of an acquaintance in her 20s to pass off as her own".

That's not what it says. It says:

"She used identification papers of an acquaintance in her 20s to pass off as her own, police said. "

She went there with false papers and applied for a job.

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What people comment about this story says far more about them, than it does about the 13 year old, or her 40 year old pimp.

I hope this girl can find her way in life, and doesnt continue down roads which will lead to a hard and lonely life.

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@ Jesse and Himajin - exactly!

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then...who's the whistle-blower?? It wasn't a raid by the police at the site, and mostly likely the girl won't snitch if she is making money... so?

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My understanding is that she got the fake papers. Much like many of us did with fake IDs. She needs to be punished - along with her parents. If she was working during the day, legally she's supposed to be in school. If at night, why are the parents not wondering what she is and why she has so much cash? If this guy didn't know she lied, he shouldn't be charged with anything. Scummy business but legal here.

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So he is being charged under the anti-prostitution law because he hired a 13 year old but not because he was running a soapland?

You gotta love how in a nation as advanced as Japan they so willing fail to enforce the laws they make while said laws are openly flaunted by silly loop-holes that they could easily close, or by changing the name of something. Selling sex here is illegal? HA! The J-cops could throw a stone in even a small town and easily hit a soapland or 'health salon' or what have you. Same with the 'no gambling' laws in Japan; tell that to someone betting on a horse or boat race, or while going to the little window outside a pachinko parlour to 'donate a gift to charity' (and collect their winnings).

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Sad that a 13yr old would want to work there.

What I want to know is if the 20yr old acquaintance willing gave her the ID papers. If so, she is the one who deserves the greatest punishment.

You'd like to think that the owner and customers would want to check up a little more on a girl who looked so young. But I guess neither are that interested until police get involved.

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Why was he arrested....? Questioned to make sure he knew or not - maybe but not arrest.

He runs a business, she gave fake papers, why would he know how old she was...

Nature of his business is absolutely irrelevant here, it aint his job to check beyond the papers for low paying baito job. Its about the same as girl working bartender selling alcohol....or any other job supposedly requiring legal age.

Her parents HAVE to know what she does at this age and she should be questioned and maybe taken away for child neglect if it is even a crime to do that in that age...?

And yes.. 13years girls aint innocent, it used to be a proper marriage age, and she knew exactly what was she doing hence the fake papers.

Btw, those things are rarely forced today, it aint some yakuza western in 2012 especially if she is Japanese and if it was , they have better ways of making you pay than a measly soapland really..

( btw soapland aint really prostitution too )

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I dont really get this whole trend of under age meaning innocent... why would a law book decide who is responsible or not for their actions.

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It is possible some religious freaks went to her door, and she then saw the light and turned herself in. I have seen others suddenly become religious, so why no this young lady?

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Throw the book at the scumbag who hired her, nick the older girl who provided the false information, name and shame the girl !

While at it .... destroy the media that brainwashes youth to feel incomplete without technological fads and designer tags.

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Yasukuni, I'm thinking find fault in the parents. What kind of patent raises a child to think that selling her body or "services" is okay?! She could have easily stolen the papers. Not hard here when nothing like ID papers are not hooked up to a main database. Hanko are easily copied.

Having cat penetration sex is illegal. Everything else is a go when it comes to soap land laws. If the woman doesn't charge for vag penetration but is a free service, nothing illegal. Pay for one thing, she gives you a free present... Easy to get around the law.

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Vag, not cat though iinagine that is illegal too!!! Haha!

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a 13 year old doe (my word for a teen female, teen male being a buck)

You could have just written 'a 13 year old female' and you would have not only saved typing more words, but also would not have been condescending.

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" She used identification papers of an acquaintance in her 20s to pass off as her own, police said. "

So why did thy arrest the manager? He asked for ID, and the ID said she was over 20. Is he supposed to hire a detective to check if her ID is her ID??

I don´t get it.

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Hide Suzuki: "It just means that there are always bad apples, in this case irresponsible parents who are not paying attention to their kids."

I'd say it's not just the parents to blame on this issue, Hide, but I think they DO share some of it for sure, even if the kid managed to hide it from them completely (in which case it's a kind of neglect on their part, perhaps). There are some societal issues to question as well, such as the problem with over-sexing little girls and how that appeals to many adults here ("lolita" is just a fashion trend here, not a crime), to the existence of such places and the goings on there-in when they have anti-prostitution laws in place. Yeah, I know, there are all sorts of loop-holes in the law allowing for 'Sumata', but the laws are so obviously abused that it may be time to crack down a little.

Which brings me to my next point:

WilliB: "So why arrest the manager?"

I suspect it was simply because he rocked the boat. I mean, seriously, they're charging the guy with violating anti-prostitution laws, not for employing someone underage, or for allowing statutory rape in his establishment. If they were serious about cracking down on anti-prostitution laws they could just go to any pink district in any town or city and start arresting all the owners; in this case, I think it was just something they could not simply ignore so they arrested and had to charge him with something. He'll probably just get a fine.

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Teens are a class of their own, neither boy nor girl, nor man nor woman.

So why not call them teens?

I say does and bucks. It recognizes teens for what they are

Easy prey? Phrases like 'deer in the headlights' come to mind.

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I think it has been edited? I could have sworn earlier it said she was given papers?

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"Come back when you're 15"

Oh my...

"How did the cops find out?"

Someone told 'em.

"manager of a soapland"

If it's a guy, and he loses the job, does he actually put that on his resume?

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I am sure we are going to hear from many people about how there is no way a 13 year old doe (my word for a teen female, teen male being a buck) could possibly look 20.

Doe and buck? Why not girl and boy?

Anyway, this isn't just a Japanese problem, it's global. Dirty old buggers the world over have always perved after young girls. I don't know how to prevent this sort of thing happening, but stiffer penalties against people who groom and use underage girls need to brought in.

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Then sorry for posting the correction, then, Nicky!

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I won't totally defend him because I wouldn't too surprised if he knew. But when my cousin was 13 she could easily of passed off for a 18 year old

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People who aren't blaming the girl clearly don't remember what it was like to be 13. Preteens and early teens think they have the whole world figured out already. She knew what she was doing, absolutely. Arresting the manager sends out a message to other "soapland" owners that this is not okay, and that one needs to do their research and abide by the rules when hiring new women, or else face consequences. It's unfortunate, since it sounds like she, the 13 year old girl, manipulated the situation, but at the same time, it serves as a good warning none-the-less, for other establishments who may fall victim to the same ordeal.

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"Vag, not cat"

Glad you clarified that. Before scrolling down I was racking my brain trying to think of what cat penetration was. Wondering whether I should ask and be seen as some prude who hasn't experienced much of life, or just google it... lol Then I looked at the keyboard for possible typos. Good to see someone else makes typos!

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How can he be arrested? Officially nothing goes on in Soaplands apart from the "free love" that is generated by the woman and man during the "massage", unlike other places where sexual contact is an official part of the business.

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Tmarie, yeah the parents can be blamed - but who knows? Sometimes a teenager can have a falling out and go through a rebellious stage and mix with the wrong crowd in a short time. Seems to me that she had a 20 yr old "friend" who helped her with papers. In the end, no matter how how bad the girl was, she's still a girl. She might have the body of a 20yr old, thinks she knows everything, but in the end she's 13. That's why we have special laws for young people. I'd say both the owner and the customers had suspicions but weren't decent enough to check more.

Sad world.

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Arresting the manager sends out a message to other "soapland" owners that this is not okay, and that one needs to do their research and abide by the rules when hiring new women, or else face consequences. He did what he needed to do - get ID. SHE lied. No way should he have been arrested with anything to do with her. Sexing full on vag sex? Yes. Hiring an underage girl who LIED and had fake papers? Nope.

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Guys running businesses like that can tell the difference between 13 and 20 year old females. Telling the difference is their business.

The true age of an older-looking 13 year old girl is easily discerned by the way she walks and talks.

NambyPamby, anyone who cannot tell the difference between 13 and 20 should not be teaching. The same goes for anyone who calls teenagers does and bucks. Filter your mind.

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Plenty of 13 year olds look 20. Add in the average maturity level of a 20 year old in Japan...

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The Japanese media give more details. She only worked there for a week. She wanted 'asobu kane' - money to have fun with. The manager knew she was underage, because he didn't allow her talk with the other girls and paid her more than the other girls.

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13 year olds ARE NOT SEXUALLY MATURE. Nor are they does or bucks.

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I dunno, you would think you could tell a 13 y/o from a 20 y/o fairly easily. Perhaps he simply didn't want to question the paperwork because he wanted this girl to "work" for him and the devil take the hindmost...

I don't have much trouble with what consenting adults get up to but with prostitution there is always the idea that the women have to be forced into the business somehow; that it's a choice of "last resort" in the best circumstance. I think most of American society sees it this way. I'm not sure how Japanese society views the topic. But 13 y/o? Naw, that's just sick.

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EportExpert:

" 13 year olds ARE NOT SEXUALLY MATURE. "

Oh really? Says who? Mentally not mature, of course. But sexually? Plenty of 13-year olds manage to get pregnant, how do you explain that.

I am still wondering what they expect the manager to do. Hire a detective to check out of the ID she presented was real or not? For every employee? Really?

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Can not understand why so many people want to harshly punish a 13 year old schoolgirl. There are many ways an adult can get a child to do illegal things. What people forget is if she can be held fully responsible then it would be time to change the laws and lower the age of consent. What what I make out, writers are saying not only did she know it was a crime but gave her consent. However the reason the age of consent is higher is it is believed the child does not have the knowledge or experience for willful consent. The question did she do it willingly or was forced somehow or tricked.

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Now that she is busted I wonder where she will end up next? Bias will answer that question for most people. If you think this was bad, I bet things will be worse for her. At soapland there are rules and limits. On the street, there aren't.

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She might be "mature" for her age...there a lots of female younglings in middle school and high school here where i reside who definitely look at least 18-20 yrs old...the hormones introduced in milk and chicken have a lot to do w/this older appearance...this young girl's family needs to be arrested and she put in therapy and w/a different family!

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Can not understand why so many people want to harshly punish a 13 year old schoolgirl. Because SHE'S the one that knowing broke the law? Come on Yuri, if this was a Japanese ossan with fraudulent claims you'd want him punished.

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You miss the point entirely, a Japanese ossan is an adult with years of experience, fully grown and not been subjected to sexual servitude.

She is 13 years old, barely into puberty, Marie. Girls of 12 and 13 don't just sell themselves without huge problems and possible past abuse. Have a heart. We totally get you dont like children, and are not keen on other women unless they are go-getters in the business world, with no children, but just please try and have a heart!

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If you bothered to read my posts you would see that I agree she's got problems - which stem from her parents. Which is why I suggested BOTH be punished. I don't need to "have a heart" with regards to a 13 year old knowingly breaking the law. Problems or not, punishment is needed. Plenty of adults were abused as kids and have a hard time. Doesn't mean they should get off without a punishment. Don't you remember what it was like to be 13? I do and I certainly knew I could get away with a lot of things because of my age so went ahead and did things. I also knew wrong from right. Anyone who states a 13 year old doesn't needs their head examined. This girl knew full well what she was doing - and should be punished for it. It might actually help her in the long run. Looking the other way certainly won't.

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Don't send her to the cops, she'll either get pushed off her bicycle, flashed at, or have her hair licked !!

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Making girls out to be freaks created by modern food is as wrong as it is insulting.

Yeah, it's almost as bad as calling them 'does'.

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Back on topic please.

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If you have a better term

I already gave it to you. 13 year old female. No need for any further definition or explanation and it is not condescending.

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Marie, you dont punish victims, you support them, counsel them, help them, and this girl is no criminal, she is a victim of the sex trade in underage children. Again, Marie, have a heart as well as a first rate mind!

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I agree with orange. This 13 year old needs help and support.

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Plenty of adults were abused as kids and have a hard time. Doesn't mean they should get off without a punishment.

Am I the only one unable to follow this line of reasoning? I wasn't abused as a child so maybe that's why I am having difficulty understanding what you're going on about. Are you reliving some past horrible traumatic experience and trying to apply it to this young girl?

I am pretty sure that most people commenting would agree with you that adults should be held accountable for their actions. However, a 13-year (even one who knows right from wrong) would probably benefit more from counseling or other more positive forms of guidance than being "punished" like a common criminal. Maybe appropriate guidance at this stage in this young lady's life will be just the ticket to prevent her from growing up to be one of those "I was abused as a child, so don't blame me" people who end up in court later on as adults.

No 100% guarantee of course, but it wouldn't be the first time that a little kindness and guidance helped a trouble kid through a difficult stage in their life and got them started on the road to becoming a responsible adult.

The "spare the rod, spoil the child" theory is no longer the norm. IMO, throwing the book at somebody so young only ends up leaving scars that sometimes never truly heal.

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Marie, you dont punish victims, you support them, counsel them, help them, and this girl is no criminal, she is a victim of the sex trade in underage children. Again, Marie, have a heart as well as a first rate mind!

A 13 year old who lies about her age, gets ID papers illegally, goes to school, hasn't been sold into the trade... and you want to hug her and hope she won't do it again... Yeah, that'll work. Again, what were you like at 13? I don't know about you but I know I could play the law due to my age. Seems she knows the same.

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abcd, I don't think I commented on the type of punishment she needs, have I? Clearly counseling and guidance are much needed. And is often the "punishment" for these type of issues. Obviously throwing her in jail and the like wouldn't work and isn't needed. Allowing her to just walk away isn't the answer.

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> I don't need to "have a heart" with regards to a 13 year old knowingly breaking the law.

No? Really? You honestly believe that. Then you have my condolences. Ild love to give this girl a huge hug and tell her it is going to all be alright, and she will recover in time. I think she deserves it. You dont have to be sold INTO the sex trade in under age girls to be a victim of it. You just need to have been groomed by either an older female, a pimp, or else by years of conditioning due to sexual abuse. Any way you look at it, she is not a victim, she does not deserve punishment any more than any other rape victim, and she does deserve a whole lot of sympathy for a very shitty hand in life that has been dealt to her.

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Three different offense, 1st by the manager/business, 2nd by the girl, and 3rd by the legal guardian/parents of the girl. There should be a 4th party that is responsible, the person that provide the fake ID.

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I do not believe a 13 year old girl can make a adult decision. Did she get the papers or were they handed to her? Did she really do it "willingly" or was she sold by her parents? I do not understand why all of the hatred expressed on her. Why can't people have some compassion to a 13 year old girl who has been repetitively raped? Please have some heart!

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Wow - A lot of your reactions are shocking. I will say it again.

SHE IS 13. PROSTITUTION AT 13 IS ILLEGAL. SHE IS 13. THIS MAN KNEW AND WAS HER PIMP. SHE IS 13. SHEIS13!!

I don't understand how some of you can think this is okay and it as her fault.

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Ild love to give this girl a huge hug and tell her it is going to all be alright, and she will recover in time. And that's it? Yes, that'll help her out. A big huge and telling her things will be okay. Please. The girl needs more than that. Clearly.

I don't believe I said I didn't think she is a victim. You really, really need to stop putting words in my mouth. Try reading what is written, not what you wish was written.

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Tmarie, I support you. Still, the pimp knew apparently. First and from far most accountable, the parents... Then, if a female is sexually mature, if she likes sex, it is great. Make love, not war.

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She is only 13. She should not be tried as an adult and the 44-year old is responsible for his actions.

The lack of common sense on this forum is astounding.

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Jonathan Prin:

" Tmarie, I support you. Still, the pimp knew apparently. "

What pimp? I did not read anything about a pimp in the article. From all we know, she obtained the false ID by herself, and applied for the soapland job by herself. And the manager did the right thing by asking for ID, which she showed. Can you explain what you mean?

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OK, what I'm NOT seeing in all of this is what charges were brought up against the girl? It will be hard for her to claim she didn't know what she was doing if she went to all the trouble to use someone else's ID to get hired. Want to actually put a stop to this? Start making the girls responsible for their actions and not heap all the blame on their "handlers".

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sure you didn't know she was 13 like you didn't know your an idiot

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It seems a lot of people assume that minors are by definition innocent angels roaming the planet, immune to the defects of human beings and oblivious to the dangers lurking in the world. I think it's a very naive view of human nature. The age-of-consent laws are there to protect young people from older more experienced ones and also from themselves, eg signing a contract of which they cannot understand the full consequences. The law's existence though does not establishes that minors are pure an innocent beings though.

In this specific case it's the girl that went looking for a job. I think it's clear that, unfortunately, this young lady has grown up to think and behave like a prostitute. Whether the blame is on her parents, school or society it's another subject. Certainly though I think the manger should not be punished as hard as if he had 'solicited' or 'tried to convince' her to get into the business. Furthermore, she even provided fake IDs and might (as we don't know) have looked older than her age.

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Wanna see a 13-yr-old going on 20, google Lottie Moss, younger sister of model Kate Moss, ha.

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To suggest that the manager of a soaplang (which by definition rides on the thin edge of the law anyway) would KNOWINGLY employ a 13 year old is simply ludicrious. Period.

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For all we know she may be precocios and a convincing lier. With large doe like eyes you may really want to believe her. But she is a child. 13 and working at a brothel it should be painfully clear she is in need of protection and guidance (by responsible adults!).

And to protect others go after her every customer. Ignorance, willful or not, is no excuse for the amount of damage this causes society.

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Let's see.. "soapland" is squeakily cleaned up term for what is a sleaze business. I'm thinking a manager there might be lacking just a small modicrum of moral fiber, but just a thought.. Oh, and he's a businessman. He'd never try to skirt the law, outstanding pillar of society he is.

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How to prevent similar cases of abuses in future ? Presuming that the 44 yr old ossan was ' innocent' given the forged ID presented when the child was employed..to protect the children, would have to target at the demand for these children -- the 'customers'. Have the Japanese law makers put forward sufficiently harsh punishments against these customers ( chopping them into pieces would not be enough for such insane acts ! )

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