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Tokyo court disposed of records linked to Aum cult dissolution order

Official government record is being disposed? Thankfully now we have online media that still preserving records.

Will be time in the future where they dispose record about Unification Church?

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The unification church should be ordered to disband as the group is negatively affecting the well-being of Japanese society - both emotionally , mentally and financially

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The unification church should be ordered to disband as the group is negatively affecting the well-being of Japanese society - both emotionally , mentally and financially

This cult shouldnt be the only one that is ordered to disband. All religious cults in Japan should have their special status revoked. This group is only "negatively" affecting the people because of all the press surrounding it in the aftermath of Abe's assassination, and thankfully the spotlight has been finally shown on them and their activities. BUT the disbanding should be for ALL, not just this cult.

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Tokyo court disposed of records linked to Aum cult dissolution order

It doesn't surprise me at all. Aum also had links to the LDP, mainly through Shintaro Ishihara and his people. And in light of the Moonies' scandal, the last thing the LDP wants is for the public to know about their ties to Aum. I'm guessing that's why they are disposing of these documents now. That would be my guess.

Official government record is being disposed? Thankfully now we have online media that still preserving records.

Will be time in the future where they dispose record about Unification Church?

that's a good question.

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This group is only "negatively" affecting the people because of all the press surrounding it in the aftermath of Abe's assassination

Obviously the unification church has been negatively affecting the well-being of Japan for decades and not only because of Abe's assassination ! ! !

Why you would think the unification church is only negatively affecting the people because of the press surprises me as i thought until now you were more aware.

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disposed of records

Why is it necessary to dispose of government records unless something needs to be hidden ?

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All religious cults in Japan should have their special status revoked.

I think perhaps some people don't understand that not all cults negatively affect society or the differences between a religion and a cult.

Not all religions are cults and not all cults are religions.

Furthermore not all cults in Japan actually have special status either.

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It is easy enough to retain all important records digitally.

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Not all religions are cults and not all cults are religions.

Name one religion that isn't a cult.

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why moonies are not banned yet and assets frozen?

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The Aum Shinrikyo still exists. Impossible to ban them altogether.

According to the Ministry of Justice, Aleph (a splinter cell of Aum Shinrikyo) had over 1,650 active members in Japan as recently as 2019.

Bizarre syncretic cult Happy Science fuses traditional religions with ultranationalism and has hundreds of thousands of subscribers to its offshoot YouTube channels.

Nonreligious cults have no special status.

"Today, there are as many as 2,000 cults operating in Japan. Most are linked in some way to the traditional Buddhist and Shinto faiths, whose teachings are so vague that they are infinitely accommodating. The majority are harmless, and some are not really cults at all but fronts for criminal activity. Others are tax dodges."

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-enduring-power-of-japans-doomsday-cults/

In the US there are 10,000 or more cults. The Manson Family was one of the worse.

How to identify a cult: Six tips from an expert

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-to-identify-a-cult-six-expert-tips/

The government cannot prevent religious freedom which is protected by the constitution.

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Not all religions are cults and not all cults are religions.

All religions are cults of some shape or form. No religion should have should get special tax breaks, just because they are a religion! All religions depend upon their members to support them in some manner or another, most financially. Some DEMAND tithes, a form of blackmail, for someone to join or maintain their membership.

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Freedom of religion cannot be banned unless the constitution was changed which is almost impossible.

Who decides what is a cult and what is not?

What is a cult and what definition could be used in law?

Non-reglious cults do not have tax breaks.

Ending the tax breaks for religions would be met with strong opposition and will never happen. Most countries have tax breaks for religious organisations.

What actually laws did the Unification Church break? None I think.

The LDP needs to change its own rules on accepting donations.

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Questions. Questions.

Who decides what is a cult and what is not?

What is a cult and what definition could be used in law?

Who decides? Try anybody not on the payroll.

What is it, I dunno, never tried it. Ask google.

In the meantime, people should get behind this guys take:

The unification church should be ordered to disband as the group is negatively affecting the well-being of Japanese society - both emotionally , mentally and financially

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Unbelievable !! How can the court records of the most hidious and notorious Japanese cult be disposed of....the mind boggles.

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They could at least digitize them and keep them on record, just in case?

Nah……That’s too much logic.

carry on

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How can the court records of the most hidious and notorious Japanese cult be disposed of.

The article says that only records of the dissolution order have been disposed of. The criminal case records are to be kept indefinitely.

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Non-reglious cults do not have tax breaks

No one made that assertion. I have been stating however, that all religions are cults, and thus should have their tax exemptions stripped.

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Name one religion that isn't a cult.

There's over 3000 religions in use.

To be fair i refuse to discriminate any .

If you don't know the difference between a religion and a cult it's futile to continue a discussion.

Perhaps it would be more effective for you to name a cult that isn't a religion.

Good luck with all that

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I do not agree that all religions are cults. It is impossible to ban religions. Other organisations like charities and NPOs are also exempt from taxes. There are also foundations.

https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/w-019-3735?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true

Nonprofit Law in Japan

https://cof.org/country-notes/nonprofit-law-japan

Cult is a term that doesn't refer to religion at all, but is applied to a social movement.

http://www.hopesandfears.com/hopes/now/question/216321-religion-or-cult

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Aly Rustom

It doesn't surprise me at all. Aum also had links to the LDP, mainly through Shintaro Ishihara and his people. And in light of the Moonies' scandal, the last thing the LDP wants is for the public to know about their ties to Aum. I'm guessing that's why they are disposing of these documents now. That would be my guess.

As per the article above:

*"According to the court official, records pertaining to Aum Shinrikyo's dissolution order request, including the original copy of the decision made in favor, were destroyed on March 8, 2006."*

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Japanese hate to admit anything unpleasant about themselves, and sometimes even in court, don't record anything that could be viewed as making the culture seem unpleasant.

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If you don't know the difference between a religion and a cult it's futile to continue a discussion.

Lol... I have more than likely forgotten more about "religion" than you ever learned. You miss the point entirely, all religions are, by definition, a cult. You also probably needed google to come up with that "3,000 religions" number.

Refresh yourself and read all of the definitions for cult here, just because you may not like it, or may not understand, all religions are in fact "cults" by definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cult

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カルトはラテン語で「崇拝」や「儀礼」を意味するcultusを語源とし、学術用語としては、カリスマ的指導者を中心とする小規模で熱狂的な信者の集まりを指す。 しかしマスコミでは、時として犯罪行為を犯すような、反社会的な宗教集団を指す用語として使われ始めた。

A cult is derived from the Latin word cultus, which means "worship" or "ritual," and as an academic term, it refers to a small group of enthusiastic followers led by a charismatic leader. However, the term has begun to be used in the media to refer to antisocial religious groups that sometimes commit criminal acts.

https://kotobank.jp/word/カルト-178058#:~:text=カルトはラテン語で「崇拝,として使われ始めた。

宗教なんて、カルトも含めてみんな同じだという人もいます。しかしそれは、商売なんて、みんな詐欺商法と同じだいうようなもので、乱暴なまとめ方でしょう。

Some people say that all religions, including cults, are the same. But that would be like saying that all business is the same as a fraudulent business method, and it would be a rough way of putting things together.

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/byline/usuimafumi/20220718-00306201

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