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Tricked into porn: Japanese actresses step out of the shadows

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I was about to make some callous comment until I read the part where one woman had surgeries and then hanged herself.

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Japan releases some 30,000 adult films annually, according to industry figures.

That is like what, over 80 some films A DAY? That's a hell of a lot of women who are working in the industry.

The government should be shamed by the international community to stop the exploitation of women!

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What does it say about the Japanese education system that so many people can pass through it without learning their basic rights?

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Last year, the Tokyo District Court threw out an agency’s bid to extract a 24 million yen penalty from a women who refused to appear in porn films—a rare legal victory, critics say.

I wouldn't call that a "legal victory" by any measure. This would have been a legal victory if prosecutors had gone after the bosses of the agency resulting in substantial prison sentences and hefty monetary damages for the victim.

More often than not the Japanese courts are complicit in facilitating coerced porn by siding with the agencies. In human rights cases, whether it be child abduction, parental custody or sex slavery, the courts in Japan are horrendous.

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Considering the abuse Kozai says she suffered, I don't understand why she continues to work in adult films as a freelancer.

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It's rather sad too that JT found the need to post pictures of a sex scene being filmed in an article regarding the exploitation of women. What's the purpose? Titillation?

It's not like people reading here are unaware of the porn industry, and not to mention that the pictures are borderline NSFW.

That and posting the same pictures 3 times each......shame on JT for "exploiting" them as well!

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I'm sorry, but there are a few things about this story that I just don't get. I do sympathise with Kozai but contract? So what! How could these bogus contracts ever hold water legally?

"Every agency has it's own rules", you have got to be kidding me!

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Always have mixed feelings when I read such stories. I obviously feel sorry for those girls and angry at those sharks who make a living off vulnerable/naive ppl but I also struggle to understand how someone get tricked that easily in a country like Japan? Is there anyone on this planet who still think talent, model etc agencies all around the world are squeaky clean and that all modeling, acting etc ads are exactly that?!

I completely get that once they do their first porn it's too late, the girls are 'theirs' and there is no clean way out (blackmail, internet exposure or other type of outing) but surely most of them still have the possibility to say NO when the bloke asks them to take their clothes off and do the all floor for the first time?

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Adult films are widely available in Japan, which has a relatively liberal attitude toward pornography.

It has a "liberal attitude" to anything the oyaji that run it like.

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Here is a link to the Lighthouse Center for Human Trafficking Victims mentioned in this article: http://lhj.jp/english

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It's rather sad too that JT found the need to post pictures of a sex scene being filmed in an article regarding the exploitation of women. What's the purpose? Titillation?

Yes. It's the Daily Mail approach.

How could these bogus contracts ever hold water legally?

You do understand that these "agencies" are either gangster-run or fronts for the yakuza. That's how it works here.

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The underbelly doth reveal itself... its about time. Outwardly Japan is a Sweet, Cute, Honest and Happy place, but don't judge the book by its cover. Good on her.

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What the article describes in most other develoed countries (coercing someone into sexual activity against their will) would be treated as a sexual assault and unished accordingly. Japan's rape laws are antiquated and allow this sort of thing. Change those, start arresting these guys for sexual assault and then the industry might actually clean itself up.

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Unfortunately these manipulators are a segment of the population that doesn't share the same world view and doesn't feel guilt or shame when they make someone unhappy. They are selfish, self-centered have a strong need to feel superior and powerful in their relationship. These manipulative usually don't consciously plan their tricks. They emerge from the manipulator's underlying personality disorder. They may use active techniques like becoming angry, lying, intimidating, shouting, name-calling or other bullying tactics. If these people are often associated with criminal behavior then these are called psychopaths. In the end these are the people who feel little compassion for other people, don't really feel guilty when they do something harmful. They pathologically lie, show superficial charm and don't take responsibility for their actions.

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Starts with education

Just make it mandatory for Jr. and High Schools to put this as an essay question on their entrance exams, then they'll have to teach it in schools and Jukus: "What are the good and bad aspects of street model scouts and talent agencies?" and/or "What would you do if confronted by a street model scout or talent agency?"

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I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that these women don't know what they are letting themselves in for. I find it more plausible that they get involved in the grumble flicks, then decide they want out for whatever reason (well, not everyone wants it in the tradesman's entrance).

That's not to say that those running the agencies aren't a bunch of dirty rats, but given the seemingly unlimited numbers of women willing to appear in donkey and rooster videos, I don't see the inventive to to coerce those already involved (unless they are extraordinary popular).

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Lessons to learn, "She signed a contract that she says did not make clear the nature of her real work.", this is normal in typical Japanese company, no wonder they can get away with it all the time.

But then these people are master tricksters, you know, young girls want to be famous and be admired by men, would do anything to be one of those AKB48 girls, no talents, no skills, when those predators came along telling them how "naturally beautiful" they are, and how she'll be the next Fukada Kyoko, or Hirosue Ryoko, their logic & reasoning function shuts off, all hopes go out the window from then on.

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"Japan releases some 30,000 adult films annually" there's that many wankers in Japan?

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The reason I don't have any sympathy for these girls is that despite their story they were forced into doing porn they kept going back again and again - 100 films - and they never sort legal advice, police advice or went to some public help group some of these so called "victims" claim it was over a period of four years hard to believe four day and four weeks yes but not four years or 100 films their not victims but willing participants.

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I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that these women don't know what they are letting themselves in for.

Apparently you don't know that Japanese women are quite naive and live in a safe bubble. Top that off with power harassment by these gangster and they are easily forced into sex. See below.

“There were about 20 people around me, waiting. No woman could say ‘no’ when they’re surrounded like that,”

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Japan please protect your women! This is a human rights abuse. How can any contract be upheld in court under false pretenses? You can't validate a lie by signing it. These women are clearly being abused and the law needs to step up and revoke illegal contracting immediately.

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Forgot to add this important part from the article "Kozai eventually left the agency that she says brainwashed her. But she continues to act in adult films as a freelancer."

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The reason I don't have any sympathy for these girls is that despite their story they were forced into doing porn they kept going back again and again - 100 films

Right. The first time, maybe... after that, you go to the cops / family / friends / whatever and LEAVE.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

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I say "castorate" these no good bastards that are forcing Innocent Woman into such a business!

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I completely get that once they do their first porn it's too late, the girls are 'theirs' and there is no clean way out (blackmail, internet exposure or other type of outing) but surely most of them still have the possibility to say NO when the bloke asks them to take their clothes off and do the all floor for the first time?

I'm gleaning from your attitude that the notion of abuse is lost to you. Please try and pretend to be more empathetic

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If you know anyone in the journalism field in japan who tells you honestly you will know that sexual exploitation in the entertainment industry is rife - both males and females. And that includes the AKB's etc.

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They do it to people they trick into coming to Japan from poorer nations, why wouldn't they do it to naive young women here as well? And yet still you have some people blaming the women, and saying that they are well paid and knew what they were getting into.

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You know some people here dey the wartime sexual slavery issue... How can it be denied, when it's still practiced, even among their own people.

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Accusations that women were made to perform in sometimes brutal sex scenes, on film against their will, prompted the industry to issue an unprecedented apology and promise change.

What is the damn industry?? a little kid? apologize and promise to change?? seriously??

Y'know.. ALOT of this could EASILY be prevented. How about the cops start going up to all those guys giving fliers and scouting girls in the middle of the street to see what they are doing instead of stopping foreigners and asking for their visas? How about plainclothes female cops or even narcs help entrap those black companies?

I saw that they are actually doing that a bit on youtube, but its nowhere near enough. Whenever the cops see a solicitor of ANY kind, they should be authorized to go up to them and demand to know what it is that they are soliciting and their company name and address.

This behavior should be deemed as a crime. How is that any different from the ore ore scam; and people do get arrested for those. How can the porn industry continue to operate after these scandals?? This is the type stuff you expect to read about in very poor, very underdeveloped nations, not one porporting to be a first world country.

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* completely on topic **

You know some people here deny the wartime sexual slavery issue... How can it be denied, when it's still practiced, today, even among their own people.

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I'm gleaning from your attitude that the notion of abuse is lost to you. Please try and pretend to be more empathetic

The opinion can go both ways so there is no reason to criticize those who wonder why the women continue to do porn with the freedom of choice being at play. There is no exact quote in this article that says the women were forced at gunpoint or threatened to continue after the first time they were tricked into it unless they lived in the studio under lock and key. Also the one woman is continuing to do porn as a freelancer?

I do emphasize though if mind control was at play or it was life threatening. If

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I feel bad for some of the women mentioned towards end of article, but seriously, how naive can people be?

Anyone should realize that once on the internet, forever on the internet.

And by the way, J-porn is disgusting.

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Quite simple - though in most cases, a contract should be binding, in the case of porn, it should not. If a woman does not want to do it anymore, she should be allowed to cancel the contract without threat of legal recourse.

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Saki is pretty, but then not having the backbone to tell people (even if there are 20 of them) that you are NOT going to undress and HAVE SEX ON CAMERA (which will haunt you until your death as film never goes away) and that this is not what you agreed to, is a BIG problem. This is where Japanese education is failing in teaching students to say "NO" to things that they don't want to do, but I guess this is just too "dangerous" for the "society" at large. Thus, this (dare I say her "peer-pressured rape" is an "unintended" consequence. Too bad, but Saki-san needs to look at the big picture. Sure she can do adult films now, but sooner or later she will (like sports players) be just too old and too saggy. Then what? It is not like she could put this on a resume and slide into another profession. Marriage? Out of the question. No guy, unless it was one of her producers is going to want a woman who has been filmed having SEX with another man and having other men get off on it. A bit to much baggage to ask for, and I dare say, if the genders were switched, a woman would not want to marry a porn star as well. These people have to think instead of act for once. But the government needs to get REAL about this poisonous industry and to start saving women from this fate. Now, right-wingers, come on--jump on and say, "it is all free enterprise and the government should not be regulating anything, and it is just all fun and games."

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Kozai eventually left the agency that she says brainwashed her. But she continues to act in adult films as a freelancer.

As pointed out by many here, I sense contradiction in the story.

“They’re not necessarily all abused or locked up…It’s more like they are tricked into it,” Segawa said.

If this is said by an anti-porn advocate, no one is likely to be abused or locked up.

Last year, the Tokyo District Court threw out an agency’s bid to extract a 24 million yen penalty from a women who refused to appear in porn films—a rare legal victory, critics say.

Contrary to what the "critics" say, I have never heard of any court judgement that granted penalty payment.

This research paper by Professor Nakasatomi lists court rulings on porn related cases, both civil and criminal. The court ruled against porn industry in all cases.

http://ir.lib.fukushima-u.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/10270/3621/1/2-419.pdf

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Does it not occur to any of you that the reason Kozai continues to work in porn as a freelance is that she would find it impossible to get any other kind of work.

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This,

vaguely worded contracts

This,

...a contract that she says did not make clear the nature of her real work.

And this,

... threats, intimidation and fraudulent contracts.

Followed by,

Last year, the Tokyo District Court threw out an agency’s bid to extract a 24 million yen penalty from a women who refused to appear in porn films—a rare legal victory, critics say. (italics mine)

Maybe that is part of the problem.

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Kozai eventually left the agency that she says brainwashed her. But she continues to act in adult films as a freelancer.

Like many English teachers- hated the job in the beginning, got used to it and now run their own business.

There might be many victims but no one else sees this as self-promotion for her latest ventures. I am sure many people, myself included, read the article then went on Google to see who she is and you come to many sites upon sites of her performances. Playing the victim card may put a few extra yen in her bank account.

Thumbs down to me for thinking deeply.

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This is what happens when you sign without reading the contract.

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Personally, I have never signed anything I did not understand.

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"I'm gleaning from your attitude that the notion of abuse is lost to you."

Which is fair enough, Fred, as you do not know me nor seem to be the most perspicatious guy around i.e i think you may have missed some nuances (in my initial post). Probably the 'do the whole floor' bit which does sound harsh/disrespectful as I deliberately wanted to highlight the crudeness of those blokes.

I just don't think there are 2 sides a (the good guys like you) a/'poor women, they got tricked big time and had no way out from day 1, absolutely no one could have seen that coming', b (the bad guys) " those girls are dumb, it's entirely their fault."

For whatever reason I am neither in a or b. I think extreme gullibility, being easily manipulated etc is a dangerous trait and the same way people should not trust a random woman/man met online who ask them to transfer $50k after exchanging 3 emails women should not blindly believe 'scouts' who tell them they'll get rich soon if they do what they are told, it's all legit etc. Chances are, its not, that's why ppl in those situations should be extremely cautious and should have enough social intelligence to see warning signs.

My other point was/is we 'society' have to ensure ppl are aware of those scams and have enough options to get help and opt out from day 1. I will always feel sorry for the victims and seek the harshest punishment possible for the perpetrators yet there is a point when someone's extreme gullibility becomes almost unfixable. (Not saying its the case for the women in this article).

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I think the issue here is the contracts, if they are properly understood before being signed there won't be contract abuse as that would immediately become illegal.

When it comes to the Porn industry however, no matter what you're going to have the complainers trying to bring the industry into disrepute. In the US there are hundreds of cases each year where women say they were abused or scenes were too brutal or whatever, even though they were just following the contracts that they themselves signed.. I think we can be thankful that at least in Japan Porn actresses have legal recourse to fall back on and the industry is legitimate, as opposed to most countries on Earth..

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Sad to see some people blaming the girls. Yes, I am for personal responsibility but the pressure on these girls (by multiple people) is immense and can be quite scary. Personally I would like to find some of these guys and pound some sense into them, but that is not a viable solution in Japan. Ms. Delicious I see you never signed anything you do not understand. I am curious what the implication is here as it appears some of the documents these girls signed did not state they would be doing porn.

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I'm sure she's not complaining about the money she earned; and she's still making AV! Can't be all that bad, clearly.

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These women sound very immature. Sign a contract and then after realizing it is for porn they go back. I highly doubt a contract stating that you have to do porn would have any weight in any civilized court.

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This issue is another example of how vague Japanese contracts are -- the ones I have seen are not specific and judgements go based on nuances it seems. Even judgements in court decisions seem vague without explaining any reasoning for their decision. It seems the girl could have walked away from the contract, but there is no protection from intimidation.....the vultures know how to manipulate their victims, just as bullies harassing employees and students in schools. The base of the problem is the punishment for harassment is not there and this needs to be corrected to protect its young citizens. Time to wisen up Japan......

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Review, reform section 4, Human Resource Management, 4.3 Labour contracts, paying particular attention to application, issuing guidance to the judiciary. More than a whiff of criminal deception. A zero tolerance approach make examples.

https://www.jetro.go.jp/en/invest/setting_up/laws/section4/page3.html

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This is rape and the police should be involved. The contracts also sound like fraud, which is also criminal.

As for the scouting issue, FizzBit is right. Education is the answer. Young women should be warned. In fact, they should be warned even about the worlds of fashion modelling, TV, and AKB type idol groups being dangled in front of them to get them to do porn. Those jobs can also be very exploitative and treat their workers far worse than ordinary people will imagine from the fantasies shown on tv. You could just as easily swindle 500,000 or more out of a gullible girl by telling her it's what every budding model pays for her first portfolio photos.

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What's the purpose? Titillation?

I see what you did there.

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I vaguely remember a similar article about six months back.

Awfully dense in the head to be 'tricked into "porn"'.

That just goes to show the state of JLand's educational system, not teaching people to think or question.

And Abe wants then to become Adults(LOL)!

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Sad but being gullible is the only reason putting you in a wrong situation. Makes me think of men going to bars where pretty girls offer you champaign... No one comes out unscathed. And as said before me, all about education: how come to get help if you are not able because of yourself to seek it. One "funny" thing is that ladies in Japan hardly ever know how to say NO. And unfortunately, pressure and intimidation are no crime in Japan. Teach your girls !

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Unbelievable how naive some Japanese girls are. Once I met a girl who told me she was scouted in Shibuya the previous day and planned to visit his office for a photo shoot the next day. I asked her if she had actually done any research into this guy's agency and she knew nothing! He just gave her piece of paper (or meishi as they call it here) with his name on it. She believed him and seemed really excited until I told her not to be such an idiot and at least get more information to make sure it's legit and bring a friend.

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Does it not occur to any of you that the reason Kozai continues to work in porn as a freelance is that she would find it impossible to get any other kind of work.

Well, by going public she's certainly made that eventuality a self-fulfilling prophesy.

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The number of people on this thread alone that are blaming the victims are just as big a part of the problem as the companies that trick the women themselves. Shame on all of you. Especially this:

" I am sure many people, myself included, read the article then went on Google to see who she is and you come to many sites upon sites of her performances. Playing the victim card may put a few extra yen in her bank account. "

Absolutely disgusting!

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"Japan releases some 30,000 adult films annually, according to industry figures."

Good god, that is truly perverted.

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For some reason my first comment disappeared but this is an educational issue and it goes far deeper than porn. We're constantly hearing about workers in nearly every Japanese workplace who put up with miserable, illegal conditions because they don't know their rights. If Japanese youth can graduate from school into ANY field and not know their rights, that's a serious societal problem.

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Saki Kozai thought she had found her ticket to fame after an apparent model scout spotted her on a Tokyo street and offered her a job.

Sheesh. Just how dumb do you have to be?

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It's not really news that most women in the porn industry were initially tricked into it. I'm sure they were intimidated, but they could have said no or gone to the police. It's too late to regret after you've done it.

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@Disillusioned

I'm sure they were intimidated, but they could have said no or gone to the police.

The police here in Japan? Haha, good one. to intimidate: to force into or deter from some action by inducing fear.

It's too late to regret after you've done it. When else can you regret something?

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what a low life to trick girl into signing contract. whoever did it should be punished with a heavy sentencing.

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There were about 20 people around me, waiting. No woman could say no when theyre surrounded like that, she said.....

Why not? I hardly think normal women would give in so easily regardless of how many people there are.

And again we see how naive/nibui Japanese women get themselves into situations normal common sense should prevent.

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"Japan releases some 30,000 adult films annually, according to industry figures."

Good god, that is truly perverted.

In other words, you, like the woman in this story, are ready to believe everything Japanese porn producers say.

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The number of people on this thread alone that are blaming the victims are just as big a part of the problem as the companies that trick the women themselves. Shame on all of you. Especially this:

and where is your explanation of why she is continuing to be a porn actress? Why would someone continue a job that they were forced into and did not want to do? Sorry that I am not the pure-hearted individual that you truly are.

I am waiting for an explanation from you not just reading through comments and criticizing comments as you normally do.

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DaDude: Why would someone continue a job that they were forced into and did not want to do?

People can adapt to anything. She is at a different stage in her career than when she first started. Also, she may be working for an outfit that treats her better than the outfit that initiated her, or may even have her own outfit.

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I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Maybe she sees young girls falling for the same trap as her and wants to do something about it, even if she is comfortable as a porn star now.

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What I do not like about this AFP article is that it is most probably written based on the material provided by the anti-porn advocate group.

Last month when a similar article was published, there were many porn actresses who protested the article. The actresses said the article was unfair in emphasizing exceptional cases in which women were abused, and that the article did not reflect most cases in the industry where actresses are treated fairly.

AFP writer Natsuko Fukue must have known the move by the actresses last month, but did not include the move in her article.

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well any links then ?

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In most other developed countries, being coerced or forced into a sex act is rape, end of story.

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Dadude: "Why would someone continue a job that they were forced into and did not want to do?"

Geez, why does a sex slave keep on being a sex slave? And yes, some of these women are literally forced to keep on doing what they are doing, based on the contract that they were tricked into (and if you think it's clearly spelled out you're even more naive than the women you blame for being victims!). Why do ex-cons, once out of jail and known as ex-cons, choose any work they can get after getting out, even if they don't like it? -- because it allows them to survive and no one else will accept them because of how they see them. Granted, the women have committed no crimes in these cases, unlike the example of ex-cons -- but the point that they have been 'tainted' in the eyes of society -- especially people like yourself -- is not all that different.

You're probably one of those people who, if a woman is sexually abused, blame her at least in part for what she was wearing, as though she invited it.

"...not just reading through comments and criticizing comments as you normally do."

Already have, as have others, but your comments really deserve no further explanation because you refuse to acknowledge that you stigmatise and paint these women with the same brush as stated above; you look at the victims and say they are to blame. Period. Not one harsh word towards the companies on your part -- just the women.

"Thumbs down to me for thinking deeply."

Sorry, bud, but since you admit that after hearing her name you checked her out online you're not 'thinking deeply', you're thinking about as superficially as you can.

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Alex EinzOCT. 06, 2016 - 03:05PM JST

well any links then ?

If you can read Japanese, http://www.excite.co.jp/News/society_g/20160616/Litera_2343.html

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i meant her movies... Unfortunately, I cant really pity someone doing this due to their stupidity. offcourse there might be cases of actual forced coercion under real duress but someone "getting scouted for model" in shibuya or roppongi must understand where they are going...

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Alex EinzOCT. 06, 2016 - 04:10PM JST

i meant her movies

Goolge 香西咲, and you will get millions of her pictures.

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awesome! thank you

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Kozai eventually left the agency that she says brainwashed her. But she continues to act in adult films as a freelancer.

[ This defeats her argument. You cannot prosecute the agency that you used to get out of your dilemma. And then claim this same agency needs a systems of checks -n - balances and how they need to be uniform when she still earns a living from it, and is therefore promoting it indirectly }.

Kozai was young, naive, and stupid. Had public schools been focusing on educating kids on human-trafficking, instead of focusing on xmas and Halloween you, you would not have a Kozai.

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Go to Machida any day of the week and you'll find guys walking around near 109 trying to talk girls into "modelling", it's blatent and the police do nothing, once they get a girl interested they take them downstairs to the seating under the escalator to further talk them into ageeing to become a "model".

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You gotta be careful with these types of stories, they inevitably have an anti-porn agenda behind the scenes. This is a basic employment contract dispute and the proper path of recourse is the courts, not the media.

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It is natural to feel sorry for her and I do too, but if she really had no idea that the film set she walked on to was for a porno, surely she could have just told them that she had no idea this was the deal and walked away. Saying that just because there were 20 people there it was impossible to say no is pretty flimsy.

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Here in Japan, the advocate group argues that the women are forced to perform in porn films. Many porn actresses argue that such cases are exceptional and that they are doing their job on their own will. Now, which fact is true and which fact do you want to believe?

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Here in Japan, the advocate group argues that the women are forced to perform in porn films. Many porn actresses argue that such cases are exceptional and that they are doing their job on their own will. Now, which fact is true and which fact do you want to believe?

There are ridiculous holes in your logic, but I'll bite.

I believe the fact that women are being tricked and coerced into pornography. Even if such coercion is exceptional, it still occurs, and is still reprehensible. It's rape by any measure.

Was that the answer you were looking for? Because it's the correct one, despite your not-so-subtle suggestion to the contrary.

Name and shame these "companies." It's the only thing these a-holes will respond to.

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CH3CHO: "Here in Japan, the advocate group argues that the women are forced to perform in porn films. Many porn actresses argue that such cases are exceptional and that they are doing their job on their own will. Now, which fact is true and which fact do you want to believe?"

If you say yourself -- in your very own words which are quoted, that 'such cases are exceptional', then you are admitting that as rare as they might be, they exist. So, then, what's all this stuff about "which fact is true", as though one is not possible? And you know what else, not ONCE do you even suggest that any company forcing women into porn is wrong, reprehensible, or even bad (despite admitting such cases exist), instead you blame the women and you blame groups which fight for women's rights. Well done, CH3CHO! You've outdone yourself. But I mean, on other threads about women forced into sexual slavery you also come to the defense of the aggressors, so no surprise, really.

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Here in Japan, the advocate group argues that the women are forced to perform in porn films. Many porn actresses argue that such cases are exceptional and that they are doing their job on their own will. Now, which fact is true and which fact do you want to believe?

I don't know if such cases are exceptional, but both do exist. Some women are coerced, but the large majority do it of their own free will.

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LFRAgainOCT. 06, 2016 - 06:21PM JST

Name and shame these "companies."

Why doesn't this article by AFP mention the names?

If a woman is coerced to have a sexual intercourse, it is a rape and merits news reporting with the full name of the perpetrator. But AFP did not. Why?

Obviously, they want to give an impression that the whole industry is coercing the women into pornography, and are not interested in individual cases. On the other hand, porn actresses are arguing that they are doing their job on their own will. What is at stake is not individual cases but industry-wide crack down. But is the impression given by the article true, in the face of the witness of the porn actresses to the contrary?

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You're probably one of those people who, if a woman is sexually abused, blame her at least in part for what she was wearing, as though she invited it.Not one harsh word towards the companies on your part -- just the women.

So I am talking about one freakin' woman so suddenly that makes me a chauvinistic pig against all women? If she is your daughter or wife, forgive me but how does that make her word gold. There are 2 sides to every story and I have no idea why you are so adamant about everything she is saying as if you know her personally.

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Something to think about. While some women choose to work in porn, others are tricked into it. I would like to know what percentage of the women involved are tricked into doing porn.

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hmmm and was there 20 guys in the room when she renewed her contract after the first one was up? Checking her vids it looks like she was very good actress because they show her enjoying her work.

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Kozai eventually left the agency that she says brainwashed her. But she continues to act in adult films as a freelancer

Are you serious?

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As noted above this is Yak driven and is totally allowed by the police. You can find scouts hanging out, loitering really, at stations all over Osaka. I have never seen the police shoo them off. Because no doubt the police are being bought off by money or other special favours if you know what I mean and I think you do. Most woman do not give in to the harassment of the scouts but obviously enough do so that they are out there every night. No doubt the scouts work on commission if they bring in new talent. Looking at them clearly they are misfits.

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I wouldn't call that a "legal victory" by any measure.

That's because you want to eat your cake and have it, too. Having a case thrown out that was trying to force someone into porn is a "legal victory" for the defendant. Period.

I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that these women don't know what they are letting themselves in for. I find it more plausible that they get involved in the grumble flicks, then decide they want out for whatever reason (well, not everyone wants it in the tradesman's entrance).

So you have observed first-hand the tactics used by the "scouts" and had a chance to read the contracts these women are signing? No? Can't really help you, then, if you're disbelieving people without getting any facts.

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I don't buy that she was forced/brainwashed into doing this. Doesn't add up on how someone leaves a company and then goes and continues to work elsewhere. And from seeing her on videos, she and many others seem to be enjoying themselves quite nicely and eagerly. I have seen numerous times these hoodlums and pimps at the station passing out tissues or pamphlets to women. I once asked a japanese person what was inside and they told me it was recruiting info. So basically, the ones interested, would reply on their own and the ones who weren't, wouldn't. Seems pretty simple. To think i did a similar method just trying to find a serious and decent girlfriend, from starbucks to department stores but was unsuccessful with typical ghostful outcomes.. They definitely have their system rigged for specific clientele.

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They all talk but must remember that "man" 's nature is the cause of these... this sort of thing has been existing even in the stone age. Any one can stop the man's nature ! well done, go ahead, but we women are the victims for the pleasure of the man..

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anyone remember Ai Iijima? she turned a career in porn to a mainstream celebrity career. her death in 2008 wasn't discussed much in Japanese media considering that she was a household name but that is Japan ...

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They prey on weak victims and all these women seem weak

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Until the Japanese government bring the hammer down on these agencies, unfortunately it will forever continue.

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Just checked out a Japanese Porn site this "lady" has thirty plus videos as a sole "actress" and I didn't even search her videos in "group" settings - tricked into porn that maybe so but she has certainly hung around for the benefits - no victim here but a willing participant.

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For everyone doubting this girl, it could be a case of both. She may have been coerced into it when she started, but after starting, had no way out - what are the alternative job prospects for this girl? She can't have a lot of job options open to her anymore. People have to eat and pay the bills.

anyone remember Ai Iijima? she turned a career in porn to a mainstream celebrity career. her death in 2008 wasn't discussed much in Japanese media considering that she was a household name

I remember it being on the top page of the newspaper, and on all the talk shows for a least a day or two.

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"No woman could say no". Oh please. You don't want to do something, you just leave lol.

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Don't sign contracts from somebody who just approached you on the street, and if you do take the contract to a lawyer to get checked and verified so that it isn't some kind of false and overly convoluted worded contract to trick you. If the agency won't allow that then they are shady and that should sound the alarms.

And if you find you actually have to do porn then don't, break the contract. Would love to see that going to court, I bet these agencies won't even make it to court because they'll be named and shamed publicly. They just hope the fear tactics they use on the girls will stick.

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A number of porn producers are women themselves, as are nearly all of the make-up staff who preen their female stars to perfection, then send them into a room to be penetrated and covered in fluids. I wonder if they have any guilt about what they subject to their fellow women to?

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A number of porn producers are women themselves, as are nearly all of the make-up staff who preen their female stars to perfection, then send them into a room to be penetrated and covered in fluids. I wonder if they have any guilt about what they subject to their fellow women to?

If they girl is there voluntarily, why would they?

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DaDude: "So I am talking about one freakin' woman so suddenly that makes me a chauvinistic pig against all women?"

Never said that. I said the you are saying the victims are to blame. It's the part about you joyfully going and looking her up online to see her pics or what have you that makes you the latter, instead of taking her and the plight of of women who are dupe into the industry seriously.

" If she is your daughter or wife, forgive me but how does that make her word gold."

What on earth are you talking about?

"There are 2 sides to every story and I have no idea why you are so adamant about everything she is saying as if you know her personally"

Never said I did -- I said YOU have made disgusting comments and are likely the same kind of person that would blame a rape victim for wearing sexy clothes, based on how you have objectified and blamed these women for being tricked into it. What's the other side you're speaking of? So far all you've done is blame them? You're saying the people responsible for tricking the women might actually be to blame?? Oh, no... wait... you only see the one side.

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Sad to say but these women suffer from low self esteem after being forced to do something they don't want to do they suffer psychological damages for years. One person asked why does she free lance because that's all the skills she probably have.

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Seems like a typical shoganai.

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