Two men injured in brawl in Tokyo karaoke bar

described by witnesses as being “Asian foreigners,” 

Itd be nice to know exactly how the witnesses determined the perpetrators were not Japanese.

I'm sure angry words and threats were exchanged, and it's easy to spot foreigners if they start to scream in a foreign language.

"Itd be nice to know exactly how the witnesses determined the perpetrators were not Japanese."

Do all Asians look exactly like the Japanese do?!

Have you ever seen a fight where not a single sound was uttered? Total silence, no words, shouts, nothing?

Have you ever been or seen a fight anywhere?

Um, because believe it or not, it's not as difficult as you may think to look at someone and notice they are not Japanese.

diversity is strength!

Either women or money. Chinese gang attacking Chinese nationals over either of these 2 issues is the most likely story.

Ikebukuro... terrible circumstance, probably the worst neighborhood in Japan.

These Chinese gangs must be deported immediately

At least it was specified that they were ‘Asian’ foreigners. The rest of us law abiding non-citizens shouldn’t have to be tarred with the same brush as these blow ins.

“diversity is strength”

Yes. War is peace and freedom is slavery

If they just said "nine men" would it be any less accurate? I mean, what exactly constitutes a "gang"?

At least it was specified that they were ‘Asian’ foreigners. The rest of us law abiding non-citizens shouldn’t have to be tarred with the same brush as these blow ins.

So are all "Non-asian" non-citizens in Japan law abiding? You say do not tar someone with the same brush but you do it to those "asian" foreigners. Saying them they are all criminals and inferior to you.

@BigYenToday  05:11 pm JST

Ikebukuro... terrible circumstance, probably the worst neighborhood in Japan.

What - Ikebukuro? First place I ever saw in Japan, fell in love with it immediately. Stayed there three times, staying there again in a couple of weeks, walked around there day and night with my wife and never had or even seen any trouble.

I don't know what makes you feel lovely place to live. do you mind elaborating it?

Maybe it would be different if I was some kind of Chinese gangster, but I'm not.

Sure I think I know you are not. I mean I don't think so.

Anyway, worst neighbourhood in Japan - for crime, I think you'd be implying?

Yes I did.

Still makes it a lot safer than most other cities in the world.

How many cities in the world did you spend meaningful length of time you lived to know it?

Itd be nice to know exactly how the witnesses determined the perpetrators were not Japanese.

I guess they were speaking a foreign language. Also, many Japanese people are uncannily skillful at telling the difference between Japanese and non-Japanese Asians.

The victims were Chinese, and at least the police are trying to catch their assailants -- instead of just saying, "who cares, it's just a bunch of Chinese people."

So let's not criticise them for doing their job, and for handling this incident the same way as if Japanese people were involved.

yoshisan: "So are all "Non-asian" non-citizens in Japan law abiding? You say do not tar someone with the same brush but you do it to those "asian" foreigners. Saying them they are all criminals and inferior to you."

Don’t twist my words. I wrote "us law abiding non-citizens shouldn’t have to be tarred with the same brush” as these (criminal) blow-ins. The only person who takes this to imply that non-Asians are superior to Asians is you.

Ikebukuro ..The ghetto of Tokyo.

As I made clear in my comment, I'm talking as a three-time visitor to the place. I don't understand your antipathy to it.

I've been there a whole lot more than three times - and I like it. I like that it's a little more gritty. And as far as places in the world to visit, it's very safe. I've literally never had a problem there, and conversely met many Japanese people (well, guys) who were happy (drunk) to chat and have a good time.

@Big Yen

For me, lovely place to visit means lovely place to live. and Ikebukuro ( and Shinjuku, Shibuya, Roppongi) and anywhere near that , for example, where Chinese man was about raping woman on the street openly in broad daylight, cannot be lovely

http://brute.sakura.ne.jp/wp/?p=3232

The demise of the street level "blue collar" Yakuza has created opportunities for Chinese criminal elements. More and more violent crimes care committed by foreigner gangs, like Chinese and Nigerians. They have filled the void.