Japan to seek extradition of men arrested in U.S. over Ghosn escape

It filed a civil suit in Japan this year seeking 10 billion yen ($93 million) in damages from its former boss for alleged misconduct.

Unless the lawsuit includes all of the Japanese the Japanese upper managers like Saikawa then it just more blame the gaijin for Japanese moral bankruptcy and incompetence!

Notice the Japanese media has not mentioned any of Nissans lawsuits abroad. The only way they are going to win this farce of a legal case is in Japan with their hostage justice and corrupt prosecutor and judges working together.

Japan said on Thursday it was working to secure the rapid extradition of two men arrested in the United States.

Now it's "Rapid"? So these two can spend years in detention denied or granted limited legal access, family visitation limited if allowed at all. waiting for a series of show trials who's conclusion is already determined? Got my money on the extradition application being denied. Prosecutors really didn't think this through from the moment they colluded with Nissan to start this whole shambling chain of events.

Extradition is probably to their benefit if they are convicted. They are more likely to spend less time in a Japanese prison.

Doubt they will admit to anything.

If the US decides to hand them over to Japan's unfair justice system that is the end of their so called ''USA freedom''

Again, it won't happen. The US has never deported its own natural-born citizens for extradition. The Green Beret and his son are millionaires who can afford good lawyers to render the case null and void. The US merely arrested them under the request from Japan; actually, Americans aren't going to prosecute them yet. American legal system is actually fair (for the most part) not like Japan.

The US won't extradite these 2 to japan. It would like extraditing them to North Korea, they know it's impossible to get a fair trial in japan with their "system of justice'.

If the US decides to hand them over to Japan's unfair justice system

The main issue is ex-soldier and his son made a crime or not. If the US thinks what they did is a crime, they would be extradited soon or later.

One big obstacle. It's a Green Beret who's committed a crime and we know how Trump loves rogue officers and soldiers who've broken the law, he pardons them. Trump will probably pardon this guy too.

It seems to me Japanese govt's purpose is get clear detail of Ghosn's escape plan from them. They committed the escape crime for Ghosn, but they would not go to jail for years in Japan. They would probably have to pay lots of fine instead of jail. J govt could take all money Ghosn gave them for the escape.

They get extradited to Japan, you'll never hear from them again.

Again, it won't happen. The US has never deported its own natural-born citizens for extradition. The Green Beret and his son are millionaires who can afford good lawyers to render the case null and void. The US merely arrested them under the request from Japan; actually, Americans aren't going to prosecute them yet. American legal system is actually fair (for the most part) not like Japan.

US military personnel have been arrested and done time in Japan prisons in Japan. Same as extradition? Yeah sort of because they were under the jurisdiction of the SOFA but released to the Japan penal system.

The merc and son did commit the crime of aiding and abetting Ghosn even though he was not convicted, however, I hope they dont get extradited and the US shows some back bone just due to the fact that Japan never plays fair.

Got my money on the extradition application being denied.

I hope your right, but allot of politicians and people in the gov are very disconnected when it comes to Japan.

Again, it won't happen. The US has never deported its own natural-born citizens for extradition.

Where are you getting this information from? It's simply wrong. The US grants extradition requests for its own citizens regularly. Japan and the US even have an extradition treaty.

They will be extradited and sent to Japan if and when such travel is permittted. The United States has an extradition agreement with Japan and will abide by it, if for no other reason than if the reverse occured the U.S. would expect Japan to arrest American for whom US arrest warrants were outstanding.

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/volume%201203/volume-1203-I-19228-English.pdf

Posters saying otherwise simply have no idea what they are talking about.

stormcrowToday  11:35 am JST

One big obstacle. It's a Green Beret who's committed a crime and we know how Trump loves rogue officers and soldiers who've broken the law, he pardons them. Trump will probably pardon this guy too.

How can Trump pardon a person charged in a different country under their laws and jurisdiction? Impossible.

Be interesting to see if the US extradites them, when it has refused to extradite the woman who actually killed a teen with her car in the UK. Japan wants revenge, his family seek justice.

To be fair, that woman defensibly has diplomatic immunity. In this day and age, with countries like China, the United States understandably does not want to create ANY precedent that can be remotely twisted to create a situation where a country like China can get their hands on anyone important enough to have diplomatic immunity.

The Green Berets don't have such immunity.

I don’t see any reason why the US won’t turn them over. As for the American woman who killed a British teenager with her car, she is married to a diplomat...and has diplomatic immunity. Lots of people in jail right now and one guy who’s not losing sleep over it is having his morning coffee in Lebanon.

Japan is gonna need a serious case against them to get them extradited. The charges in the US are not very severe. Possibly, aiding and abetting, but it would be difficult to make it stick. They have only been charged with booking the flight. It's not even clear if they knew who or what the flight was for.

It {Nissan} filed a civil suit in Japan this year seeking 10 billion yen ($93 million) in damages from its former boss for alleged misconduct.

The misconduct was by Nissan with the underhanded way they backstabbed Ghosn. They then let the other executives off for their indiscretions. The Japanese injustice system is also at fault of misconduct by holding him for a year with daily interrogations and threats without a lawyer present. And, how about that malarkey of rearresting him the day before he was due to give a press conference? The Japanese injustice system should be ashamed of itself for the pathetic way they harass and threaten people into making confessions. Free Ghosn!

US authorities have said they will not agree to the extradition request for wife of an intelligence officer after she killed a motorbike rider in UK.

Let's see what happens in this case....

But then Trump plays golf with Abe..... special relationship?

These guys have no diplomatic immunity. This has NOTHING to do with the UK.

If Japan can convince a US court that the men are guilty of a felony, they'll be on a plane. They won't talk, so after 3 yrs in Japanese custody, they will be released.

As for the travel arrangements, that's up to Japan. If they arrange a flight, then I bet they can arrange a transfer to prison after landing too. They are clearly flight risks, so no bail will be allowed.

The US extradites citizens all the time, provided the crime is serious, a felony, by US law. Minor crimes don't get extradited.

The US extradites citizens all the time,

Its own citizens? I'm finding it hard to find even a single case of US citizen being extradited. Do you any further info?

Its own citizens? I'm finding it hard to find even a single case of US citizen being extradited. Do you any further info?

I dug around - it's not easy to find specific examples of American citizens being extradited from America. I found these two however:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Trickett_Smith_II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Quinn

As well as this Freedom of Information request to the British Home Office, who reply:

From January 2004 up to December 2011, there have been seven known US citizens extradited from the US to the UK.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/100739/response/255204/attach/3/Document.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1

Where are you getting this information from? It's simply wrong. The US grants extradition requests for its own citizens regularly. Japan and the US even have an extradition treaty.

Extradition treaty means nothing as the US government has the final say. In the past, the US refused to deport its own CIA agent to the UK even with an extradition treaty in place. The US rarely or never deports its own natural-born citizens. Naturalized citizens are a maybe, not natural-born citizens. It would violate the Constitution if you deport a natural-born citizen.

Naturalized citizens are a maybe, not natural-born citizens. It would violate the Constitution if you deport a natural-born citizen.

Did you mean extradite?

If it's a constitutional violation, then how do you explain these two?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Trickett_Smith_II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Quinn

It would violate the Constitution if you deport a natural-born citizen.

I'm no expert, but from reading the Wikipedia page below, I gather that only applies for extradition to countries where there is no treaty in place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_law_in_the_United_States

It’s blows my mind how stupid 99% of the public is on this. Everybody is an expert but hasn’t even looked at Japanese law. Jumping bail is not a crime in Japan. The most Japan can charge them with is an immigration violation. Laws of escape don’t apply because Ghosn wasn’t in prison. I am also assuming if 2 guys who were this sophisticated to do this probably did their homework.