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© Thomson Reuters 2021.Men charged in Ghosn escape plot ask U.S. State Department to halt extradition
By David Shepardson and Nate Raymond WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Aly Rustom
Prospect? More like certainty
HimariYamada
The State Department will not halt the extradition to Japan. If it does, the US will be have reneged on the Japan-US Extradition treaty. The US will lose all moral authority. Canada, which is in the process of extraditing Meng to US, will fine the US action to be outrageous, and find an excuse not to send Meng to US. The US knows this and therefore, it has no choice but to send the Taylors to Japan.
Aly Rustom
exactly. and to extract revenge.
RoccoL
Why should these people be above the law? They were guests in this country like other expats, and they abused the privilege by ruthlessly and relentlessly complaining their host on JT - I mean by breaking the law. Sorry forgot who I was thinking about for a moment there.
Peter Neil
What if the situation were reversed? Would Japan extradite them to the US?
Of course. The US would go ballistic if they didn't.
Do the hustle
HimariYamada
Japan and the US do not have an extradition treaty.
I can’t blame these guys for trying everything to avoid extradition. They’ll be thrown in solitary confinement in a Japanese jail indefinitely with no visitors, internet or newspapers and subjected to daily interrogations for hours on end with the aim of forcing a confession - just like Ghosn was.
M3M3M3
They most certainly do.
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/volume%201203/volume-1203-I-19228-English.pdf
Alan Harrison
I how the State Department does hat the extradition given no defendants in Japanese courts have a fair shot at proving their innocence.
Defendants should not
have to prove their innocence. They should be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Peter Neil
A thorough reading shows that there has only been one instance when an extradition demand from the US was turned down by Japan.
Kazuaki Shimazaki
Extraditions have been refused before for various reasons, but it isn't going to happen this time. The State Department has already approved the extradition, and the courts have already reviewed and approved it as well. There's no change in the circumstances, no change in the fact solution, nothing to substantiate a change of direction at this point.
At this point, their struggling against the inevitable probably does nothing except to worsen their position. They've never really denied that they did it, and their entire defence is based on it being legal for them to do it (even though they know is neither legal nor moral in their homeland). Since it is hard to believe whoever will become their judge in Japan doesn't watch TV or read the papers, the result of these futile appeals is likely to be to worsen his impression of them and dent whatever last minute claim to being repentant they might have been able to offer.
And, really, a little suggestion to the usual suspects: If you want to help those two even a little bit, you might want to try another strategy other than shooting all those usual insults. It's just vaguely possible the Judge will swim past here, and if he does, I don't see how those usual comments will cause anything other than a quiet rage in him, which might just bleed through into the sentence. He's only human. Humans get harsher when their insititution has just been insulted.
Alan Harrison
Why should these people be above the law? They were guests in this country like other expats, and they abused the privilege by ruthlessly and relentlessly complaining their host on JT - I mean by breaking the law. Sorry forgot who I was thinking about for a moment there.
Absolutly correct. Just one little problem. Something has gone very wrong with the law in Japan. (The UN seem to think so too). One moral question I would ask is "Is it wrong to rescue hostages?".
M3M3M3
Assuming the extradition goes through, the next development to look for is whether the Taylors are hit with additional charges when they arrive in Japan. The list could be extensive (filing a false customs declaration, providing false information to immigration officials, knowingly supplying an aircraft for criminal activity, and so on). Many of these possible charges carry maximum sentences which are either higher or as high as the 2 year max sentence of the charge they're being extradited on.
Goodlucktoyou
Will the Turkish witnesses be extradited? Or Lebanese officials?
Mark
" if extradited, they faced the prospect of relentless interrogations and torture."
If the shoe was on the other side, what would have happened?
OssanAmerica
Like I said the SCOTUS wouldn't give them the time of day, and they didn't.
If what they did is "not a crime" in Japan then they will have no difficulty at all in being found innocent in the Japanese Court. These guys are tough, they can handle being treated the way others are. They are not like Ghosn. The Taylors may get an extension until they are vaccinated. But the writing is on the wall. Good thing they got paid enough to handle all these legal bills.
kaimycahl
The Taylors should allow the extradition to Japan get a very good Japanese attorney and when the judge ask how they plead all they have to say was "WE WHERE DRUNK". Case dismissed!!!
bokuda
Yeah! What can go wrong?!
Badge213
Lebanon does not have an extradition treaty with Japan.
naitch
They went for hight risk hight return, Unfortunately with all legal expenses involved the risk over weight return.. absolutely No sympathy!
commanteer
Whatever the facts, the US is being far more generous than Japan would be if the situation were reversed. Japan protects its own, extradition request or not. I don't see why the US should be so cooperative over a non-violent crime - except for purely political reasons.
Random
Maybe the Taylor’s should have run their plan by the State Dept. before carrying it out...just to give them a heads up.
bokuda
Japan's Human rights Ambassador Ueda 2013
-"Certainly Japan is not in the middle ages.... DON'T LAUGH!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkoQjIBA_3U
quercetum
They are weighing imprisonment and perceived torture in Japan versus living in exile in Lebanon or some remote area. Imminent prison break.
TARA TAN KITAOKA
Please keep them in America.
N. Knight
Ha ha ha!