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Cripes, and on another thread here about kimichi and K-Pop, there were posts about how well the Japanese treat their Korean residents?

I think some people living here in Japan like to keep their heads in the sand with regards to relations with their neighbors!

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Before the anti-Japan brigade comes here huffing and puffing, nothing proves that this was sent by a Japanese.

It could have been sent by a Korean in order to add more fuel to the already well lit fire.

The Korean Embassy needs to release the security cameras records for everyone to see. Otherwise, I will have to call bull$hit on this .

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I think some people living here in Japan like to keep their heads in the sand with regards to relations with their neighbors!

The people with their heads in the sand are the ones that read about one nutcase on JT and think that represents the average citizen.

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Sending bullets through the mail is a well-known intimidation tactic by Japan's far right/uyoku knuckle-draggers.

Of course we don't know if one of Japan's far right/uyoku knuckle-draggers did this but the probability must be high.

The National Police Agency seem to have plenty of spare officers so it seems certain they'll be sending several thousand out to catch the criminal. I'm confident we'll soon know who is responsible!

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Yup, all it takes is just one incident of an alleged threat against Koreans by Japanese, for the anti-Japan brigade to condemn all Japanese and negate the overwhelming numbers of Japanese who have nothing but love for Koreans.

If this incident was in fact done by a Japanese entity, certainly it is despicable and should be condemned, period.

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Can the SK embassy release the letter? If not, why? Could they prove it was written by a Japanese? It is to be hoped the anti-Japan crowd on here can keep a cool head.

Good for Japan for ordering the National Police Agency to investigate this matter seriously.

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It could have been sent by a Korean in order to add more fuel to the already well lit fire.

@Hachi - It could also have been sent by a Japanese... I mean it's not beyond the realms of possbility, no matter how remote and improbable.......

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The people with their heads in the sand are the ones that read about one nutcase on JT and think that represents the average citizen.

You are right. So are those who sees the thriving of Korean district in Japan and brags about how Japanese has high tolerance for foreigners. If so why the immigration intake of Japan is so low for fear of high intake of immigrants can cause social problem.

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The vaste majority of Japanese people will never do such things as the vaste majority of Korean people will not burn flags.

Unfortunately the loudly minority of ultra right wing fanatics from either sides get the newspaper’s attentions.

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Sending a bullet is the MO of the uyoku or yakuza. Also, two issues. "Police declined to comment." Why not? Yeah, yeah, on going criminal investigation blah, blah, blah. Not saying anything when the press already knows about it is not helping the safety of Koreans. Secondly, why didn't abe or someone in the government smother this by releasing a statement saying that violence or violent threats would not be tolerated? It was sent to the Korean embassy, the host nation has a basic responsibility to protect that embassy.

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The people with their heads in the sand are the ones that read about one nutcase on JT and think that represents the average citizen.

@therougou - And yet people think that the Japanese flag-burning, Shinzo effigy-smashing, slogan carrying Korean protesters you see photos of on JT represents the majority of ordinary South Koreans...

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@ Shin Ra

Seems like a male ego was bruised and the man acted stupidly-nothing to do with anti Japanese sentiment.

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Sending bullets through the mail is a well-known intimidation tactic by Japan's far right/uyoku knuckle-draggers.

exactly

Of course we don't know if one of Japan's far right/uyoku knuckle-draggers did this but the probability must be high.

of course

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Im absolutely not surprised by this escalation. This is what happens when factual historical record is constantly ignored as is being done by abes regime. This is what happens when there's no true contrition on the part of the perpetrator. This is what happens when bullies are actually challenged. They try to kick out at you. If the police manages to drag the scum out that did this, my mind just might change however given the right wing leanings of abes regime, I'm not holding my breath. I desperately hope I'm wrong.

Truly disgusting!!

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re: A letter threatening to hunt Koreans and containing what appeared to be a bullet has been sent to the South Korean embassy in Japan amid worsening ties between the Asian neighbors, Japanese media said

While some have called for the awakening of the Great Samuri that hasn't happened yet, though SK continues its rhetoric calls for it to wake up.

Lets add this up: 1. SK demands more money using labor issues 2. SK shares sensitive tech information to NK and possibly Iran 3. SK gov officials visit the islands in dispute as well as conduct exercises 4. SK invades waters of Japan during a Russian flyover and fires warning shots at it from the Japan side 5. SK attacks a Japanese cruiser in international waters 6. SK pulls out the GMSA agreement and alliance, the list keeps going, yet Japan has held much restraint. how much more is unknown.

The above is not likely from Japan given its restraint.

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Sending bullets through the mail is a well-known intimidation tactic by Japan's far right/uyoku knuckle-draggers.

Is there any documented evidence for this other than JT poster comments?

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news nowadays: negative images are the main criteria

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The above is not likely from Japan given its restraint.

@rg - Given the recent threat by a Japanese to burn down an art museum over its sex slave statue, would you not say it is at least remotely possible it was another deranged Japanese who did this?

I mean, if you have conclusive evidence, you should be fronting the reporters now...

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Rgcivilian

Lets add this up: 1. SK demands more money using labor issues 2. SK shares sensitive tech information to NK and possibly Iran 3. SK gov officials visit the islands in dispute as well as conduct exercises 4. SK invades waters of Japan during a Russian flyover and fires warning shots at it from the Japan side 5. SK attacks a Japanese cruiser in international waters 6. SK pulls out the GMSA agreement and alliance, the list keeps going, yet Japan has held much restraint. how much more is unknown.

The above is not likely from Japan given its restraint.

Can you pls edit your list, you conveniently didn't include Japan removing SK white list status after the G20 and just before the election which triggered the chain of reactions and relation nosediving to the lowest low with no end in sight.

Well, don't know where on the list you will fit it. Good luck though.

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Whether its sent by a Japanese or SKorean, its despicable. Just adding more fuel to the fire. Some people really want to see the world burn.

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Whether its sent by a Japanese or SKorean

@pap - Until conclusive evidence is available the initial report needs to be taken at face value. So what's with all the conspiracy theorists, with the constant insinuation that the letter was sent by a Korean?

Do the same posters suggest Japanese conspiracy whenever an apparent provocation by SK is reported?

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Until conclusive evidence is available the initial report needs to be taken at face value. So what's with all the conspiracy theorists, with the constant insinuation that the letter was sent by a Korean?

> Do the same posters suggest Japanese conspiracy whenever an apparent provocation by SK is reported?

well said!

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@Ganbare Japan!

can the SK embassy release the letter? If not, why?

1) Japanese police has the letter.

2) You don't disclose evidence while a police investigation is ongoing.

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You don't disclose evidence while a police investigation is ongoing.

@Samit - Hachi and Ganbare have both said that the SK embassy needs to release evidence, but thank you for posting some sense.

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Guys, guys it's Secret Service in action. TV will show you post box somewhere in Tokyo and they will say it was sent from that location and no-one knows who did it. Case closed.

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Is there any documented evidence for this other than JT poster comments?

There is if you look around, yes.

But to be fair, the uyoku gangs don't always mail their bullets through the post; sometimes they deliver them in person, from the barrel.

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It is a real bullet. Ordinary citizen don't have guns and bullets. So naturally guessing it was done by

Yakuza/related Uyoku of which roughly 30% are Koreans according to ex-Chairman of NSC.

So it is 30% chance vs 70% Fair enough?

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It would be safer to stay away from each other for a while.

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This spat between these two countries is so childish it makes me sick to read about it. Just put Abe and Moon in a boxing ring and let them sort it out once and for all.

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"worsening ties between the Asian neighbors"

its already down the tubes...

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Japan is notoriously famous for ignoring its history. They don't even study history WW2 at school. Many japanese people wouldn't be able to answer whom it was fighting against. And definitely not about how many people Japan killed in China and other Pacific countries. Not surprised about new wave of historical censorship.

As the saying goes, those who don't remember their past are doomed to repeat it

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This spat between these two countries is so childish it makes me sick to read about it. 

I’ve come to learn that there are cultural differences in how Northeast Asians solve their problems. From my cultural perspective, they’re like 8 year olds but I must see things from their perspective and way of resolving, which is to focus on who started it and then to get the other side to accept their responsibility for startling it.

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Similar threats or harassment including suicides (!), feces throwing or trespassing have been made against the Japanese embassy and consulates in South Korea. They are all against the Geneva Convention.

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quercetumToday  11:24 am JST

This spat between these two countries is so childish it makes me sick to read about it. 

I’ve come to learn that there are cultural differences in how Northeast Asians solve their problems. From my cultural perspective, they’re like 8 year olds but I must see things from their perspective and way of resolving, which is to focus on who started it and then to get the other side to accept their responsibility for startling it.

Who started it? well, it is rather who never stop whining over finally and completely and irreversibly settled issues

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Who started it?

@showchim - hang on, are you really hitting back at accusations of acting like an 8 year old with 'but he started it!'?

Really?

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Can someone remind me of the last time the RoK invaded and occupied Japan, and used its citizens as conscript labor and concubines?

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Who started it?

The Japanese did, when they annexed Korea.

But the Japanese also tried to settle it, in 2015, when they negotiated a "final and irreversible" agreement which Korea agreed to, before then unagreeing to, and providing absolutely nothing to replace it. While whining about Japan not meeting their demands that they have not made. And how they wonder why Japan isn't able to negotiate with them in good faith, as if they hadn't created that reputation all on their own.

What a mess of incompetence in the Korean leadership. You'd think they were small business owners, not leaders of a nation.

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Heh, damn, that last post attracted two downvotes at a highly accelerated rate! Someone really doesn't like the Korean leadership's incompetence pointed out.

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Heh, damn, that last post attracted two downvotes at a highly accelerated rate! Someone really doesn't like the Korean leadership's incompetence pointed out.

@Strangerland - or maybe they disagree with your comment. I mean I thought that was how the up/down voting worked but what do I know..

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> HeckleberryToday  09:48 am JST

Do the same posters suggest Japanese conspiracy whenever an apparent provocation by SK is reported?

Whether they do or don't is of no consequence. You're calling into account their obligation to regard South Korean behaviour as spotlessly as their own, while there are active protests in South Korea not just boycotting Japanese products, but cutting off everything to do with Japan from their lives. While in Japan nothing is happening at all except statements from the government.

You tell me who's people are more likely to provoke the situation, then ask yourself why you don't accuse the others equally. The fact that an immediate response from random people was "was this a Korean false flag to provoke?" speaks volumes as to the tactics used against Japan. Nothing is sacred to the South Koreans concerning Japan, as is clearly evident by them using the 3/11 disaster as a reason to boycott Japan.

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The fact that an immediate response from random people was "was this a Korean false flag to provoke?" speaks volumes as to the tactics used against Japan.

@Hill - Interesting because I think it speaks volumes about the mentality of the Japanocentric posters on JT.

The modus operandi here:

SK in the spotlight for alleged wrongdoing - accuse SK of being petulent, brainwashed, childish etc

Japan in the spotlight for alleged wrongdoing - it must be a SK conspiracy, until proven beyond doubt it was by a Japanese, at which point it is swrpt under the rug not to be spoken of again.

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@therougou - And yet people think that the Japanese flag-burning, Shinzo effigy-smashing, slogan carrying Korean protesters you see photos of on JT represents the majority of ordinary South Koreans...

That is more understandable because it happens quite often, even if it is only a minority of Koreans. Also the media rarely shows both sides of the story.

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Japan is notoriously famous for ignoring its history. They don't even study history WW2 at school. Many japanese people wouldn't be able to answer whom it was fighting against. And definitely not about how many people Japan killed in China and other Pacific countries. Not surprised about new wave of historical censorship.

As the saying goes, those who don't remember their past are doomed to repeat it.

Please list your factual sources to back up your claims. I already debunked the tired myth that 'all' Japanese school systems do not teach anything about WW2 or such histories, in a previous discussion thread last month. The person that made that claim before conveniently ignored my response. Japan is only notoriously famous for 'ignoring' history in the eyes of the anti-Japan crowd. A country like Japan that repeatedly apologized in the strongest of words for its treatment of Koreans during the colonial period and comfort women, and TWICE gave official compensation and apologies to Korean comfort women, is hardly a country that denies its history or its responsibility in this matter. Please try again.

While this letter and bullet are despicable and should be condemned, period, the fact is it would never have happened if there wasn't an escalation of anti-Japan rhetoric coming from the South Korean government. It is a knee jerk reaction, just as it was a knee jerk reaction when a South Korean man assaulted a Japanese idol visiting South Korea last week. The letter and bullet had absolutely nothing to do with ignoring history or other irrelevant reasons. It has everything to do with people who have no self control on either side of the debate.

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HeckleberryToday  12:48 pm JST

The modus operandi here:

SK in the spotlight for alleged wrongdoing - accuse SK of being petulent, brainwashed, childish etc

Japan in the spotlight for alleged wrongdoing - it must be a SK conspiracy, until proven beyond doubt it was by a Japanese, at which point it is swrpt under the rug not to be spoken of again.

Why continue to argue this when I address this exact point in my comment above?

You said it though, it must be proven beyond a doubt that it was a Japanese national. Until then, there will be some people around who will instantly question whether it was a South Korean provocateur.

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While this letter and bullet are despicable and should be condemned, period, the fact is it would never have happened if there wasn't an escalation of anti-Japan rhetoric coming from the South Korean government. 

@old man - yet another 'but they started it' comment, just with far more beating around the bush.

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A country like Japan that repeatedly apologized in the strongest of words for its treatment of Koreans during the colonial period and comfort women, and TWICE gave official compensation and apologies to Korean comfort women, is hardly a country that denies its history or its responsibility in this matter. Please try again.

@old man - You are correct when you fervently and diligently point that not all Japanese textbooks teach a whitewashed version of history, and that apologies have been made on several occasions.

But let me ask you this - is it part of the national psyche or widely held and seldom refuted belief and attitude in Japan, that they were the aggressors of WW2?

No? Then why is it so? 1940s is still only a recent past, with people who lived through the era still living and breathing. Is it not because Japan largely chose to believe and teach that they were the victims rather than the aggressors?

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oldman_13Today 07:31 am JST

Yup, all it takes is just one incident of an alleged threat against Koreans by Japanese, for the anti-Japan brigade to condemn all Japanese and negate the overwhelming numbers of Japanese who have nothing but love for Koreans.

@oldman_13

"Overwhelming numbers of Japanese"? "Nothing but love for Koreans"? Surely you must be joking. Take a look at the public opinion polls comparing Japan and South Korea, and you'll notice that a majority of Japanese respondents consistently have more negative views towards SK in almost every category than vice versa.

Even at the peak of the Hallyu Boom in the early 2000s, which was as close to a so-called "golden age" of Japan/SK relations as you could get (relatively speaking), the enthusiasm over Korean dramas in Japan among a limited (primarily female) demographic was largely drowned out by the even more fervent counter-reaction against this sudden popularity of Korean culture, often in the form of protests against stations like Fuji TV for airing the shows.

To this day, even Samsung phones sold in Japan are branded as "Galaxy" rather than "Samsung Galaxy", because otherwise a lot of Japanese consumers would stop buying them, regardless of their quality.

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Strangerland: "Heh, damn, that last post attracted two downvotes at a highly accelerated rate! Someone really doesn't like the Korean leadership's incompetence pointed out."

Or maybe you completely missed the point again. Imagine someone did to your wife or girlfriend what was done to the comfort women, and they couldn't make eye-contact with you even years later and said, "Look... some bad stuff was done, on both sides. We have to honor the Japanese who lost their lives... now excuse me while I go to Yasukuni."

You might actually start to understand. And here you are defending Japan on a post about people saying they will literally hunt Koreans. tsk tsk.

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This mad person got to be hunted down. Japanese gov't do yr part.

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Why continue to argue this when I address this exact point in my comment above?

@Hill - WOW! You missed the point completely and entirely.

My point was that when there is any alleged wrongdoing by either side, Korean guilt is assumed until proven innocent, while Japanese innocence assumed until proven guilty.

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The comments here today are depressing. Regardless of who people think did this, it should be condemned.

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Yeah right. lol Sounds like Korean.

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@Strangerland - or maybe they disagree with your comment.

Um yeah, that's what I said:

Someone really doesn't like the Korean leadership's incompetence pointed out

...

Or maybe you completely missed the point again. Imagine someone did to your wife or girlfriend what was done to the comfort women, and they couldn't make eye-contact with you even years later and said, "Look... some bad stuff was done, on both sides.

I don't know why you're pointing this out to me - I've been consistently on the side of Japan needing to deal with their actions from WWII for years.

But the fact is, they negotiated a final and irreversible agreement in good faith with Korea. Moon's administration then decided it wasn't final, and reversed it, while proposing nothing to replace it with. Then his administration whipped the populace into an anti-Japan hatred, who have gone on to criticize Japan for failing to meet the unspecified demands of Korea.

How can you meet demands when the other party won't even tell you what they are?

And how can you expect someone to negotiate in good faith with you, when you have only shown bad faith?

These are pitfalls that incompetent leadership fall into. Korea has fallen into this. Because of inept leadership.

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It is indeed a low level of action to bring the conclusions back to criticism from Korea and Japan. 

It should end with criticism and debate of those who have done this. That's right.

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Moon's administration then decided it wasn't final, and reversed it

Except he didn't. That's when your entire argument fall to pieces.

Still waiting for one poster to show me when the deal was scrapped. Is there a date when this happened?

Or are you saying it gradually eroded, like all Japanese apologies that are followed surely but surely eroded by denials and whitewashing from all levels of Japanese government?

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This whole situation is a result of Moon’s ineptitude in not signing the final and irreversible agreement his country made with the Japanese who negotiated in good faith. And Moon is so incompetent, rather than signing the agreement or at the very least proposing an alternative. Now his ineptitude has come back on him. He’s worked the populace into an anti-Japanese hatred, then whines when the Japanese don’t give in to their unspecified demands.

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we don,t know whether it was a Korean or Japanese doing this, but what i know is that the leaders from both countries should end this circus now (before it gets worse). Japan and S.Korea have alot more to gain if they,re together, not fighting each other. unfortunately korean leadership is not as good as it should be. and generally speaking korean people are like puppets in the hands of their (very) weak leadership.

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But the fact is, they negotiated a final and irreversible agreement in good faith

Good faith? Doubtful seeing the doubling down by the abe regime. The former right wing administration did a huge disservice to the memory of the Korean abuse victims. Especially since it was heavily supportive of japan. Disgraceful!!

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Good faith? Doubtful 

What do you mean it’s doubtful? No it’s not. It’s proven by the fact that they actually came to an agreement. There’s no doubt there. That’s why Korea is so inept on this issue - there is literally nothing reasonable left for the Japanese to do to solve this issue. Korea has only shown that even if Japan were to negotiate some kind of deal, Korea will refuse to sign it. So why even bother?

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Korea has only shown that even if Japan were to negotiate some kind of deal, Korea will refuse to sign it. So why even bother?

So which is it? It was signed and scrapped by SK, or they refused to sign? It cannot be both.

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So where is the signed agreement?

you know, that agreement the inept Korean government has refused to sign?

And why would Japan ever waste their time negotiations with Korea in good faith again, knowing Korea will just refuse to sign any agreements?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Why should Japan shame itself by being fooled into good faith negotiations last time?

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Why should Japan shame itself by being fooled into good faith negotiations last time?

...Like last time

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Therougou

That is more understandable because it happens quite often, even if it is only a minority of Koreans. Also the media rarely shows both sides of the story.

There were two scandals hitting the news recently one involved the Japanese vice labor minister soliciting bribes to speed the recruitment of foreign workers and the other was in SK involving Moon's close aide would-be minister

Cho. The scandal concerning the vice minister was mention in passing by the Japanese media, on the contrary, all the major private J-channels devoted long hours with experts on korean affairs reporting the korean scandal. I found it strange.

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Rcch

generally speaking korean people are like puppets in the hands of their (very) weak leadership.

You are really ill informed.

I guess you have not seen the large demonstrations against Moon or

The almost daily one million demonstrators that brought down the last sK government.

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So where is the signed agreement?

you know, that agreement the inept Korean government has refused to sign?

@Strangerland - You're getting terribly confused.. you've been claiming that SK broke an agreement, and now you're not sure if SK ever signed one? Oh dear..

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So Heckleberry, what exactly is the status of the 2015 agreement?

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I guess you have not seen the large demonstrations against Moon or

The almost daily one million demonstrators that brought down the last sK government.

@drlucifer - Agreed.

Of all the false claims that Japanocentric posters love to make about SK, Koreans being 'easily manipulated puppets of their government' is one that never fails to crack me up.

A million South Koreans gather in one place in Seoul to protest against their government with estimated 1 in 5 Koreans taking part in countrywide protests over 5 months, and yet the supporters of a single party pseudo-democracy whose citizens have never gathered in numbers in a show of democratic movement accuse SK of being puppets of their government. Oh the irony.

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Seems like the protesters in Japan are more like terrorists who resort to making threats with bullets and fax machines.

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I a country where intimidation seems to often work, this development is hardly surprising.

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It was Japan which ended its annexation of Korea and cancel the Japanese citizenship of all Koreans.

After the massive defeat of Imperial Japan by the Americans and the allies the country was destroyed and in no position to support Korea.

The Chinese invaded from the north and the Korean War happened leading to the split of the country into two. Japan would have been invaded by the Soviets but instead was invaded and defeated by America. Probably a better option as it turned out and helped the country rebuild into the current modern nation which has been at peace for more than 70 years.

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Same old right wing tactic in Japan.. except the crazies are in the same boat as Shinzo Abe and right wing revisionist, racist policies. Great stuff Japan.

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Sure this guy is crazy. Entirely unreasonable.

But if Korea hadn’t created this situation with their inept leadership, this guy wouldn’t have had this issue to fixate on.

This is a result of Moon’s inept and incompetent leadership.

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zichiToday  03:00 am JST

It was Japan which ended its annexation of Korea and cancel the Japanese citizenship of all Koreans.

Doubt it. Removal of Korea from the Japanese Empire was agreed by the Allied powers as early as 1943 in the Cairo declaration. It wasn't a Japanese choice.

After the massive defeat of Imperial Japan by the Americans and the allies the country was destroyed and in no position to support Korea.

Yet, Japan did militarily support South Korea under a covert operation run by the United States.

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So Heckleberry, what exactly is the status of the 2015 agreement?

@Strangerland - The 2015 agreement was between the two countries on 'comfort women'. The deal stands. It has never been scrapped by Moon, even if his questioning of it is against the grain of the agreement.

A lot of people saying SK's recent court decision about forced labour is in violation of the agreement, BUT the 2015 agreement is NOT about forced labourers at all.

Source: https://www.mofa.go.jp/a_o/na/kr/page4e_000364.html

SK has always maintained that the 1965 agreement has not removed the rights of individual forced labourers to claim compensation. Therefore anyone who argues that the 2015 agreement solved the issue of forced labour is laughably misinformed

See the Japanes MOFA statement above.

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It could have been sent by a Korean in order to add more fuel to the already well lit fire.

The Korean Embassy needs to release the security cameras records for everyone to see. Otherwise, I will have to call bull$hit on this .

lol that'll easily clear up whether it was a Korean or Japanese national wont it :-/

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@Heckler

How the heckle is SK making 2015 agreement stand by negating all the grains already? Huh?

SK has always maintained that the 1965 agreement has not removed the rights of individual forced labourers to claim compensation.

Wrong. SK official stance had been such as individual rights were extinguished and be solved under the responsibilities of SK government up until 2012. Some called it a landmark judgement in 2012 but hell NO. Unless they saw and learn what happened in Japan's judiciary, SK's stance would have been the same, so it owes appreciation to Japan's top court decisions.

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@Heckler

Do you even know what are the grains of 2015 CW agreement? There are only 3 major grains.

Not to mention, the fund dissolved already without Japan's consent , Ministry of Gender Equality and Family of SK officially resuming world-wide CW campaign, what else are left SK is implementing ? Huh?

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@Strangerland - The 2015 agreement was between the two countries on 'comfort women'. The deal stands. It has never been scrapped by Moon, even if his questioning of it is against the grain of the agreement.

Then why hasn’t he signed it, and instead riled up his people with anti-Japan hated.

It’s sad that you people think we’re stupid enough to believe the agreement still exists. I give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re just being willfully ignorant in order to win points, and that you’re not seriously stupid enough to think we’d believe that. I’d have to seriously pity you if you actually thought we’d believe this farce you have put forward!

seriously though, you guys need to reign in Moon. He and his administration are Trump-level incompetent.

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@Heckleberry

SK has always maintained that the 1965 agreement has not removed

Actually that's not true. It's only something that has come up recently.

As you know, it was Korea that decided for compensation to be taken by the government rather than paid to individuals, and it was probably the right decision at the time.

Then there were the decades of secrecy over the deal while the general public was deceived.

Newly declassified documents from the Central Intelligence Agency shows that the treaty was largely the work of the United States.

https://www.thenation.com/article/south-korea-japan-cold-war/

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HachidoriSep. 4 07:00 am JSTBefore the anti-Japan brigade comes here huffing and puffing, nothing proves that this was sent by a Japanese.

It could have been sent by a Korean in order to add more fuel to the already well lit fire.

The Korean Embassy needs to release the security cameras records for everyone to see. Otherwise, I will have to call bull$hit on this .

Remember, 80 years ago the Nazis killed a few of their soldiers and placed Polish army uniforms on them - to stir up rumors of a 'Polish conspiracy' against Germany.

Somehow it wouldn't surprise me if a Korean sent this in order to stir up trouble the same way. I hope I'm wrong. Whether a Korean or a Japanese or anyone else sent this sick message it's vile, disgusting, hatefuk, troublemaking and despicable to the max!

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Whover did it needs to be caught.

The aim has been achieved, though. Pitting people against each other and causing fear and mistrust.

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Then why hasn’t he signed it, and instead riled up his people with anti-Japan hated.

@Stranger - how could Moon sign a 2015 SK-Japan agreement, when he did not become President in 2017?!?

You are aware of the basic timeline of these events aren't you?

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This international spat has turned into a major conflict. Both countries are acting like nine-year-old kids. It would help if Japan could apologize but it has never done so in it’s history.

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@showchinmono

Not to mention, the fund dissolved already without Japan's consent ,

Where did the money go?

@Heckleberry

how could Moon sign a 2015 SK-Japan agreement, when he did not become President in 2017?!?

I suspect they meant, why hasn’t Moon upheld it?

It was an international accord that SK has now broken and pocketed the money.

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