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リッチ
perhaps there was a reason she was being ignored. Being nuts does do that to you I guess.
Hawk
リッチ,
Yes, it's a chicken and egg situation until more details are learned. Did they ignore her because she was 'off' or did she get that way because she was ignored?
Anyway, I'm glad no one was killed or more seriously injured.
tamanegi
NHK somewhat more specifically reported...
The student stated that she "was bullied and couldn't take it anymore," and the Metropolitan Police Department is currently investigating the details of the incident.
GuruMick
Long history of anti Korean feeling in Japan...maybe the current younger generation are no different.
Japantime
Hopefully there will be stricter checks for all foreign students coming to study in Japan.
Geeter Mckluskie
She brought a hammer to school to smash it into people's heads. Problem solved as to who the problem was and whether or not someone was "off" to begin with
Hawk
You're a teacher??
"Investigative sources quoted the suspect as saying she was "frustrated" after being ignored by a group of students and used a hammer she found on campus."
OssanAmerica
In general younger J-people are nothing like pre-WWII days when it comes to anti-K sentiment. What you see today is more a rection to the incessant SK Anti-JPN activities we have seen in since about 1990.
OssanAmerica
The article doesn't make clear if this South Korean woman was a 留学生 from SKorea or a 在日韓国人.
Geeter Mckluskie
That makes any difference? She smashed it into the skull of a guy who was just sitting taking a class before wielding it on others...because she was "frustrated"
Hawk
Yeah. Did she plan it or was it a spur of the moment decision? There are certainly legal ramifications there. Had the ignoring and alleged bullying been taking place for a while or just that day? Being frustrated and using what ever is available to you at the time is different from bringing a weapon with you to deliberately harn someone.
The point I'm making is that there are too few details. So, my question stands.
Hawk
And yeah, a lot of fights, assaults and physical altercations occur because one or the other is 'frustrated.' It's not a huge stretch.
ebisen
She is obviously mentally deranged to begin with, I bet that's why she was avoided and ignored in the past.
Abuse, bullying, getting ignored, etc happens all over the world and non-divergent (normal people) victims find way to peacefully cope with it. They don't just start hitting others in there head with hammers.
Geeter Mckluskie
I doubt she "found" a hammer on a table in the classroom or cafeteria. Ergo, she "looked for a weapon" then brought it to class to smash someone in the head with it. Unless you imagine she intended to some repairs to the classroom?
Geeter Mckluskie
to do some repairs...lol
grc
Greeter Mckluskie - I think Hawk’s chastisement was of you, not the student
Hawk
So? Your doubt is irrelevant. Perhaps she did.
Ergo nothing. You're still guessing, which is my point.
And we still haven't figured out which caused which. Was she bullied because she was 'off' (sorry, can't think of a better word) or did she go off because she was bullied?
Hawk
All you are thinking is "crazy lady went crazy with a hammer." Sometimes it's a little more complicated than that. For example, a lot of school shootings occur because of ostracism, bullying etc. And as a teacher, you know that bullying is a pretty big issue in Japanese schools. It would be naive to think it stops completely at college.
Geeter Mckluskie
I'm using logic to ascertain what happened. Do you suppose there was a hammer in the classroom?
I think you could concede that she didn't simply happen upon a hammer but rather looked for something with which to attack someone.
That is unless of course, you're more interested in winning a point over some random guy on the Internet in which case, have at it. Enjoy
Hawk
You're using logic to say what might have happened. I don't suppose it but I don't rule it out.
Either is possible. Pass by repairs or construction on the way to class? Buildings require maintenance from time to time.
Geeter Mckluskie
He's clearly triggered by someone having the temerity to question him. Yes, I erred in saying she brought the hammer to "school", when I should have said she brought the hammer to "class". That obfuscates the point I was making which is she didn't just "happen upon a hammer" in class, but rather looked for something with which to bludgeon someone with.
PS. I wasn't there, so I used deductive reasoning to draw this conclusion
MilesTeg
It makes a huge difference. If she brought the hammer from home, it indicates premeditation; she had intent and planned it. Losing control, finding a hammer, and attacking people speaks more of an unplanned attack based on reaction. Premeditation can be the difference between murder and manslaughter.
Hawk
Wait a second. I simply corrected the simple reading comprehension error you made in your snarky original reply to me. Now we're on something else. If you're going to be condescending, at least be right.
Time will tell if it's right or not. You know as much as I do.
Geeter Mckluskie
"finding a hammer" involves looking for a hammer as there are no hammers in a classroom (unless it was a class in carpentry...lol). Ergo, she had to have brought the hammer to class with the intent of using it, or she left the classroom to find a weapon then return. Either way, there was intent on her part.
Geeter Mckluskie
''I had the hammer in my jacket pocket since morning.''
The assailant was quoted as saying
Hawk
So did she find it or go looking for it? Hmmm. Still unclear. And still doesn't address my original point, sadly.
Hawk
Sorry, did she happen across it or go looking?
Jimizo
Never mind hammers, put the spade away.
When you’re in a hole, stop digging.
Just say you misread or didn’t read the article.
Pretty simple. You’re not doing yourself any favours here.
Reginald
If you teach there although u don't condone the action you understand the feeling. Someone I know who taught there had to retire prematurely due to the students' attitude.
Geeter Mckluskie
She put it in her pocket and had it there "since morning"
Do you suppose she planned to file her nails with it?
Geeter Mckluskie
I already have:
MilesTeg
The article clearly stated: used a hammer she found on campus.
wallace
New video
https://youtu.be/jjDuj-qKybI?si=-udWdth2e1GZ04oY
@Japan Glimpsed
Korean national, per Japanese reporting.
Approximately 100 students in the room. Among the victims are students the suspect had never met.
Geeter Mckluskie
USNinJapan2
She pocketed a hammer she found in a class she attended earlier in the morning, attended one or more classes in the interim, then attacked these victims in her afternoon class with the hammer she'd been carrying around since morning.
Hawk
Awesome. If y'all can find new details beyond those reported in the original article, I'm all for it. I'll adjust my opinion according to new facts. It's been my position all along.
Wesley
tsk. Made it all the way to university and she still behaves like this.
And to the poster who brought up WW2 and blamed the Japanese students, that's really pathetic.
There are a number of Korean & Chinese students studying in Japan. How do you it wasn't THEM who ignored her?
Maybe her K-friends kicked her out of their little clique and she couldn't take it?
Wesley
People here are making excuses for this violent criminal just because it's a "she" and that she was "ignored".
I doubt you would feel the same way if it was a "he".
Zaphod
Well, she is certainly not being ignored now. In a demented way, she actually solved that problem.
@Japan Glimpsed
Meanwhile, Hosei students express disbelief that the hammer was found in a classroom. Further, the suspect claims to have been bullied habitually and to have decided attacking classmates was her only recourse.
kennyG
Ask those students who have been ignored her why, that gives a lot anyway
OssanAmerica
Thanks but that doesn't answer the question. Most zainichi Koreans in Japan maintain South Korean citizenship but reside in Japan with a Special Permanent Resident (特別永住者) visa status.
Abe234
HawkToday 07:44 am JST
リッチ,
totally but the loudest minority kinda don’t have that critical thinking ability. They just read the tabloid headlines and are happy to be judge and jury. No nuance.
Possibly. Possibly not. But if we use the same reasons given and apply it to a marriage,men/women this would be classed as “emotional or psychological abuse”. Being ignored is a powerful bullying technique and the beauty or horror of that kind of bullying is they can legitimately say “we didn’t do anything to her” even though they did it for months or years.
but your right! There is absolutely a different standard placed on men and women when it comes to abuse. It’s never really acknowledged that men are victims of abuse and if there is toxic masculinity then there must be an equal opposite toxic feminists.
@Japan Glimpsed
Japanese media are not parsing the visa status.
@Japan Glimpsed
Weekly news program 7 Days News Reports, which just reported on the attack, aired video showing the suspect striking furniture in the classroom and students leaving in orderly fashion. Also shown, standing in the center of the room, back to the camera, is an individual who seems an impartial bystander. Most odd
@Japan Glimpsed
As students and commenters have suggested, the suspect did not find the hammer at the uni.
TokyoLiving
Jail and deport..
@Japan Glimpsed
Thanks but that doesn't answer the question. Most zainichi Koreans in Japan maintain South Korean citizenship but reside in Japan with a Special Permanent Resident (特別永住者) visa status.
P_C
Run, Hide, Fight
How did she get 8 people?