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Toyota subsidiary Hino admits use of fraudulent emissions data

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A little bow and everybody will forgot it....

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Corruption is nothing new in Japan - reporting is.

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Japan has seen a series of data manipulation scandals by automakers and other manufacturing firms in recent years, exposing flaws in their corporate culture and internal controls.

Punishment? Just a bow and back to business again.

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It’s rumoured Toyota’s hierarchy seems to have gotten some bad wiring in the recent years. Perhaps all of these problems also need to be hacked asap before domestic customers & shareholders starting ranting and Rav4ing?

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All negative votes so far about such domestic wrongdoings? (Let’s shake the suzumebachi‘s nest a little more, shall we?) -

*Who we’re going to be the next to be casualties, elderly and children*** ?**

*- “Some of the engines that were under investigation had been used in buses manufactured by its parent company as well as Isuzu Motors Ltd., another Toyota subsidiary specializing in commercial vehicles.” -*

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Why has nobody been arrested?

Ooops! I forgot. They must be all Japanese.

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Not to worry. North Americans & Europeans don’t like particularly like their passenger vehicles and families so ‘well done’ @AlanHarrison 6:14pm:

“The U.S. Justice Department has already launched a probe into the matter, Hino said.” -

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Anyone surprised???

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""The company said it conducted an internal investigation into its pre-shipment inspection of vehicles for the domestic market after discovering malpractice in the certification of engines produced for the North American market.""

This Says it all.

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""after discovering malpractice in the certification of engines produced for the North American market.""

OOPS, they decided to announce it before the US EPA comes after them

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I bet prosecutor won't go after these Japanese lead firm's executives.

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Nevertheless, most people around the world feel that Japanese cars are definitely better than other cars in terms of fuel economy and gas emissions.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/best-cars-suvs-autos-spotlight/index.htm

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Hino is investigating whether engine certification malpractice took place before 2016. It said a third-party inquiry will be conducted into the causes of the matter including scrutiny of its corporate culture.

Hino investigating itself. How assuring indeed.

I know I will be hard on myself and will do a good job investigating myself.

Only a non functioning brain can think self investigation is possible

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Just fine them 1 million yen per vehicle.

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lying about your salary gets you jail time if you are a foreigner, putting peoples' lives at risk for the sake of making a profit gets you nothing if you are Japanese

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Japan has seen a series of data manipulation scandals by automakers and other manufacturing firms in recent years, exposing flaws in their corporate culture and internal controls.

This is why actually i don’t buy Japanese products these days. I’ve had a Celica and a maxima before.*
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Corruption is nothing new in Japan - reporting is.

Sounds to me like they had no choice but to report it this time:

The U.S. Justice Department has already launched a probe into the matter, Hino said.

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Nevertheless, most people around the world feel that Japanese cars are definitely better than other cars in terms of fuel economy and gas emissions.

Of course they do, since they,ve been given false information about the fuel economy/ emissions ala Mitsubishi & Hino. Seems J-car makers are the same as the rest.

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"Employees felt pressured to follow strict schedules and meet numerical targets," 

To me, this explanation reads: " this was simply a consequence of employers and employees doing their best or trying too hard."

It avoids real responsibility, if anything pushing the blame onto the employees, who fudged the numbers in order not to displease their bosses. So they can't be blamed because they were just doing their best to be good corporate soldiers. Forgivable in Japan. And the employers were only guilty of running a tight ship imposing "strict schedules" - which is also forgivable in Japan.

Assuming the cover-up that involved compliance at multiple levels, rather than a single employee, a more sincere and direct apology would read "Employees WERE pressured...."

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To their credit, it was the EPA in the States who discovered Dieselgate. The EU had been collaborating with the manufacturers.

Coming after Dieselgate, it is hardly surprising to see fake emissions data for diesel engined buses and trucks. Apparently there was a mini Dieselgate for Japanese diesel cars, the Delica, that one version of the X Trail, maybe some of the Mazdas, but it was quickly brushed under the carpet. The other massive under-reported PM problem is with woodstoves for home heating, which is also being ignored because its middle class or richer people who have them, and their price and attractive flames result in people being financially and emotionally invested in them.

I say this of course as a woodstove and diesel car (Mazda CX-5) owner.

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Errr...this is double standards. This company lied for years, executives probably knew and no one arrested, interviewed or jailed. How much will this cost?

I’ll bet other Japanese automakers have been doing similar. Based on reported facts I would not be driving a Hino or Mitsubishi or Nissan because you just don’t know what underlying issues exist.

I can’t understand what is going on in Japan at the moment - is lying acceptable?

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