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Hino Red Dolphins rugby player arrested over cocaine use

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In Japan, one must not stray from the list of approved intoxicants. If you intend to intoxicate yourself, currently only alcohol is permitted.

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"According to police, Everson was walking and behaving in an unusual manner around 4:30 a.m. in the central Tokyo district of Roppongi"

Yeah, right, cocaine doesn't do that to ya. Alcohol does. Police got a tip off or they were just random testing gaijin.

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Yeah, right, cocaine doesn't do that to ya

it does if it's mixed with other things. at least that's what an aquaintance told me.

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How did the police forcibly take a urine sample? Just curious.

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The police forcibly took a urine sample

Oh dear. I don't even want to think about how they did that.

after Everson refused a voluntary urinalysis

Isn't a court order needed for that? Oh, sorry, I forgot. This isn't a country with a 21st-century legal system. It's Japan.

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In Japan, one must not stray from the list of approved intoxicants. If you intend to intoxicate yourself, currently only alcohol is permitted.

Implied in that comment is the idea that when it comes to cocaine and alcohol, one isn't any more dangerous than the other.

Come on. I think you know full well that's not true.

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Implied in that comment is the idea that when it comes to cocaine and alcohol, one isn't any more dangerous than the other.

What? No that's not implied. On the contrary, Japanese law makes zero logical sense whatsoever when it comes to whether or not an intoxicant should be legal.

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The police forcibly took a urine sample after Everson refused a voluntary urinalysis

You can't force anyone to do something like that if they refuse UNLESS, like JenniSchiebel said, you need a court order for that. I may be wrong, but that goes against the human rights laws, right?

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I may be wrong, but that goes against the human rights laws, right?

Probably. The question is whether they needed and had a court order then, isn't it. I don't see that this article answers either of those questions.

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In a normal country surely the case would be thrown out if the police took a forced urine test. As I understand, you do have a right to refuse it in this country. They will certainly give you grief and make your incarceration hell while trying to get one but actually taking a forced one.....seriously?

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As with everything to do with Japanese law and Japanese police: completely socially inept.

Forcibly taking a urine sample?

Socially inept.

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In a normal country surely the case would be thrown out if the police took a forced urine test.

Not if it was court ordered. From this article however we cannot tell if that is a requirement in Japan, and whether it happened. So it's (logically) not possible to condemn the police for their actions until we have this information.

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In a normal country surely the case would be thrown out if the police took a forced urine test.

Not if it was court ordered. From this article however we cannot tell if that is a requirement in Japan, and whether it happened. So it's (logically) not possible to condemn the police for their actions until we have this information.

The article says the police "forcibly took a urine sample after Everson refused a voluntary urinalysis."

If the cops had a court order, they would have had no need to ask him to give a sample voluntarily. They would have just said, "Give it to us; you have to, because we have a court order."

So that leads me to believe that they didn't have a court order.

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The fiendish cops probably gave him endless cups of green tea...

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