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Strangerland
In Japan, one must not stray from the list of approved intoxicants. If you intend to intoxicate yourself, currently only alcohol is permitted.
nakanoguy01
it does if it's mixed with other things. at least that's what an aquaintance told me.
Simon Davis
How did the police forcibly take a urine sample? Just curious.
JenniSchiebel
Oh dear. I don't even want to think about how they did that.
Isn't a court order needed for that? Oh, sorry, I forgot. This isn't a country with a 21st-century legal system. It's Japan.
JenniSchiebel
Implied in that comment is the idea that when it comes to cocaine and alcohol, one isn't any more dangerous than the other.
Come on. I think you know full well that's not true.
Strangerland
What? No that's not implied. On the contrary, Japanese law makes zero logical sense whatsoever when it comes to whether or not an intoxicant should be legal.
sir_bentley28
You can't force anyone to do something like that if they refuse UNLESS, like JenniSchiebel said, you need a court order for that. I may be wrong, but that goes against the human rights laws, right?
Strangerland
Probably. The question is whether they needed and had a court order then, isn't it. I don't see that this article answers either of those questions.
Punctual Plum
As with everything to do with Japanese law and Japanese police: completely socially inept.
Forcibly taking a urine sample?
Socially inept.
Strangerland
Not if it was court ordered. From this article however we cannot tell if that is a requirement in Japan, and whether it happened. So it's (logically) not possible to condemn the police for their actions until we have this information.
JenniSchiebel
The article says the police "forcibly took a urine sample after Everson refused a voluntary urinalysis."
If the cops had a court order, they would have had no need to ask him to give a sample voluntarily. They would have just said, "Give it to us; you have to, because we have a court order."
So that leads me to believe that they didn't have a court order.
nandakandamanda
The fiendish cops probably gave him endless cups of green tea...