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badman
Maybe…;
Indeed, but once they meet to make a plan, then they are acquainted. It's poor English and probably should have said "previously unacquainted."
Desert Tortoise
The US press has a better explanation of the crime than J-T. The thieves were recruited on line. It is called Yami-Baito for part time black crime. The gangs take advantage of desperate young people seeking money, lure them in then use threats, often threats of retribution against family members, to keep them in line. You can read a full description here.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ginza-tokyo-robbery-rolex-watch-store-yami-baito-teens-exploited-for-crime/
kaimycahl
@one_consciousness There is ONLY one reason to facilitate this type of crime; STUPIDITY!!! Stupid does Stupid!!!
So, there are two new technologies that facilitate this type of crime; one is called 'The Internet', and the other (which runs on 'The Internet') is called 'social media'. Social media is an online platform that enables communication and networking among individuals and groups.
If you go to Google search and type 'what is social media and how can it be used in crime?' you can learn more.
kaimycahl
My parents told me that finding a good friend was a hard thing to do, and that its easy to find trouble but hard as hell to get out of.
Sven Asai
Unacquainted, when wearing the same clothes , masks , tools and came as well flew in one and the same car? Who believes that? Anyway, not so much will happen to them. They are minors, changed their clothes afterwards and didn’t have the stolen watches with them when arrested. I guess nowadays they get a very fortunate deal and not only are soon free but even get a little hidden percentage bonus if only they tell where the stolen things are and promise not to do again every week. You know, a certified bad and poor childhood, a second chance in society instead punishment, not fully mentally developed at 16, 18, 19 and all such… They will leave the case significantly in plus.
virusrex
The theory of them being recruited in the same way as the previous crimes in houses seems to be correct.
Complete lack of awareness, if this continues people are going to get involved in violent crimes just because their default response to seeing something so outrageous is that it must be fiction.
uaintseeme
AND, that's probably why they got caught. I remember back in the day when my friends and I used to...nevermind. The point is, we were all on the same page.
Bobo
yeah they treated me like dirt when I came in with an old 70s submarina watch that I found in my dad’s things, They wouldn’t repair it nor offer any help just buy a newby please. I’ll get it fixed up when I get back home soon and jave his piece tickin’ away once again.
Yuuju
Still no information on their motives, their social standing etc?
is it some kind of confidential information.
i dont need the details but the general information. Does it take so much time to disclose important imformation - that is WHY did they do it?
stormcrow
Because of their ages, they’ll just get a slap on the wrist. But they deserve some kind of punishment much more severe.
divinda
A slew of robberies and home invasions (many have been reported here in the past several months, especially the home invasions). It seems they all use this "unacquainted" method, and was the reason those Japanese guys were deported from the Philippines prison to Japan a few weeks ago (they were supposed ring-leaders operating from the jail). It goes like this:
An ad is put online for a normal-looking part-time job. Big money, temp work anyone can do (maybe help move some boxes). Usually it is contact through phone or text only, and the job is off-site somewhere (so no connected address).
Lets say "Kenji-san" applies for the job. He shows up, does it, gets paid, and goes home. At this time the job boss gets Kenji's personal info (full name, home address, maybe even his MyNumber, etc)
Perhaps a couple more jobs come through, sometimes they may even become a bit grey as far as legality (this is all a test of Kenji's willingness and/or ability).
At some point a different person shows up at Kenji's house. He's gruff and tough. He tells Kenji's Mom, "Hey, be sure Kenji comes in to work tomorrow." This may happen more than once.
Kenji gets freaked out, goes to "work" since he's now scared of the consequences if he doesn't, and next think you know he's an unwilling Mr. Pink in the Japanese version of Reservoir Dogs.
Mr Kipling
Darn, how long has this been a thing?
Sheikh Yerboaby
Criminal masterminds they are not! In the video they were walking around casually, seemed unsure of what to get.....a woman kept on closing the door to the shop.....anyone with a bit of oomph could easily have smashed at least 1 of them and restrained him till the cops came
Jonathan Prin
Their arrest was not due to the robbery but for suspected trespassing in a nearby apartment building in Tokyo's Minato Ward during their escape.
Not due tot he robbery, but "during their escape". Either they have or they have not escaped. If they have escaped, the only meaning implied is escape from the heist, so they consider them already the culprits but police tell another strange reason for arresting them. Quite non-sense.
They found and seized a black bag near the minivan containing around 30 watches and are confirming whether the watches are those stolen from the specialty store, the sources said.
Sherlock in action...maybe somebody lost his bag of Rolex collections and will come to fetch them at the nearest koban ? Lol
Anyway, to lose track of them seems impossible nowadays.
Crime in Japan is still very low and general violence is very very rare.
sir_bentley28
Shouldn't the police be focusing on the "recruitment agency" instead of focusing on the trespassing, which is a very minor offense.
kwatt
This reminds me of the movie 1968 Thomas Crown Affair, actor is Steve Mcqueen. The story is very rich Thomas plotted banks robbery. He hired guys to rob banks, but those guys really don't know each other. They robbed daytime just like the 4 unacquainted boys in Ginza. Those guys are found and arrested later. Thomas got multi-millions of dollars finally. The movie is something like that.
Yubaru
Hell of an assumption as only one was actually IN high school, the 16 year old wasnt, and the two 19 year old men were past school age.
Hervé L'Eisa
Do not pass Go, do not collect $200... Putzes.
rcch
Understandable…; Japan is still (relatively) safe when compared to The West.
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Today 08:02 am JST “ Unacquainted? So they all suddenly decided to rob the watch store at exactly the same time? Who comes up with this nonsense? “
Today 08:14 am JST
“ They probably didn't know each other before the robbery. There is a crime boss of some sort who hired them and organized the operation. “
Maybe…;
(but it wouldn’t be the first time in history that a group of strangers decides to plan and execute a heist).
travelbangaijin
I was supposed to go to Quark this weekend - bummer. When I saw the video, I knew it was not the Rolex store but the used luxury watch store.
nandakandamanda
A large white 'minivan', we could see on the news.
As DT says. Although one bag with 35 watches was dropped, they will have handed over (most of) the goods which are now on their way out of the country. It's a new pattern, to offer crime jobs to unrelated strangers, assuring them that if they follow the instructions to the letter they will not get caught. One site even tells people that the primary investigating cops have already been paid off to purposely lose track of them.
Michael Machida
Maybe this incident was a: What you do not do when robbing a Rolex Watch Shop in Ginza?
Desert Tortoise
They probably didn't know each other before the robbery. There is a crime boss of some sort who hired them and organized the operation.
didou
Apparently, one guy arrested is also suspected of a similar robbery in Ueno last March.
The only way to escape after a robbery in Ginza, or any other areas with a street camera every 5 meters would be to have a real mastermind plan, and heading straight to Haneda to catch a flight. But anyway, this would end in being arrested overseas, which happened to some foreigners about ten years ago. Only high profile guys, such as Carlos Ghosn, are not handed back.
Those kids are not Nobel Prizes and watched too many movies.
Mr Kipling
Unacquainted? So they all suddenly decided to rob the watch store at exactly the same time? Who comes up with this nonsense?
Yubaru
One of them is talking, that's for sure.
Yubaru
No kidding! Four were video taped in the store, and another was driving the van! One was "fleeing" as the driver!
Can't decide whether or not to call three of them adults?
No kidding! Their faces were masked during the robbery and the cops have no evidence, as of yet, directly connecting them to the actual crime, but they have to have a reason to detain them "officially", otherwise they would be kept for questioning, without suspicion of any crime. This way they can hold them, and add additional charges as warranted. (Meaning they will charge them with more, AFTER one starts confessing!)
Meiyouwenti
With surveillance cameras everywhere, breaking into a high-end watch shop in Ginza is a one way ticket to prison. I suppose the arrested teens weren’t doing well at school. Smart kids would have tried to swindle money electronically using the Internet.
JeffLee
Hilarious. Potential material for a comedy movie.
Paul
Everyone wants easy money, but they forget that easy money is very expensive in the end.
tora
Yep have even started seeing posters warning students at a prestigious university not to undertake part-time work. I kid you not.