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Vietnamese rank top for 1st time in number of crimes committed by expats in Japan

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, except for U.S. military service personnel,

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nothing rally hear except breeding contempt for foreigners, moving on.

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What did they expect to happen when you open the gates to boost tourism?

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What crimes are they commuting? My guess is overstaying visas but of course that would be boring to write about.

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Thousands of ways to look at the same data and come up with a thousand categories to graph, generic! Slow cycle?

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yucky article: no effort at context. perhaps misleading as well.

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They count visa overstaying as a crime, which of course is a crime that Japanese cannot commit. It's a very dishonest way to scare people into thinking foreigners are dangerous.

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So 17,006 of the 915,111 crimes logged in Japan in 2017 were perpetrated by foreign nonpermanent residents.

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Good article to stoke the fear of foreigners at a time when immigration is being debated as a means to combat the aging population problem. Beyond fear-mongering, this kind of news serves zero purpose.

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What is a "sneak thief"?

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gokai_wo_manekuToday  11:06 am JST

What is a "sneak thief"?

Gokai, I think that might be a translation of ひったくり. Where I come from we called that “purse snatching”.

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Oops, should have checked the dictionary first.

Sneak theif:

a person who steals paltry articles from premises, which he enters through open doors, windows, etc

a person who commits thefts in a sneaking way, without the use of force or violence

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Typo: thief

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The total number of crimes commited in Japan in 2017 is 915,042 according to this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-21/crime-hits-postwar-low-in-japan-as-joblessness-declines

17,006 is about 1.8 percent of 915,042.

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@PBOt

crimes committed by military personnel account for about 1% so try again!

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Oh good. Perhaps now they will start putting up more warning signs about anything to do with crime in English, Chinese, Korean and Vietnamese (Japanese not really necessary of course but sometimes they put it on at the bottom in smaller text just for the sake of it).

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econstats Today  11:49 am JST

So Vietnamese make up 9% of the foreigner population of Japan but they are committing 30.2% of the crimes. 

QED !

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First, Japanese make up 98% and foreigners make up 2%. Therefore, there are more Japanese than there are foreigners. Therefore, since there are more Japanese than foreigners, the number of crimes commit by Japanese should be greater than those committed by foreigners.

Crimes by foreigners also includes visa violations.

There are about two million reported crimes every year but the resolving rate of crimes is lower and the number of cases presented to courts even lower.

The crime rate has fallen and in 2017 there were 915,000 crimes. In 2002, the number of crimes recorded was 2,853,739, when there were less foreigners who today number about 2.5 million.

Foreign tourists are often the victims of crimes, including brutal murders.

In2017, the total number of crimes committed by foreign nonpermanent residents, except for U.S. military service personnel, stood at 17,006.

2.5 million foreigners and 17,000 crimes. The figure for foreigners is 0.68%. The Japanese population is 127 million who committed 900,000 crimes. The figure for Japanese is 0.70%. (down from the 2002 figure of 1.96%). Almost the same for both communities.

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I'm all for immigration and multiculturalism but if these people are law breakers then they should be deported back to their country depending on their visa. In addition they should be blacklisted as to never be able to enter Japan again. If they are here on a permanent residency then they should face legal punishment same as Japanese citizens. Some of these people don't appreciate their life in Japan by breaking the law. Of course Japanese people also commit crime but these foreigners should not get a free pass. Do the crime then be ready to pay the price!

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It appears that other nationalities are now going to have to raise their game.

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The Vietnamese community of 260,000 committed 3,177 crimes, the crime rate would be 1.19% compared to Japanese and permanent residents, 0.70% and non Japanese 0.68%.

The majority of the crimes by Vietnamese are stealing food from stores so maybe they don't get paid enough wages?

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"2.5 million foreigners and 17,000 crimes. The figure for foreigners is 0.68%. The Japanese population is 127 million who committed 900,000 crimes. The figure for Japanese is 0.70%. (down from the 2002 figure of 1.96%). Almost the same for both communities."

Nice try, but your numbers don't add up. The percentages figures don't add to 1 ( .68 + .70=1.38),. Let me help you.

First, take the total numbers of crimes 915,000 and subtract the crimes committed by foreigners which is 17006. 915,000-17006=897,994. We now have the number of crimes committed by Japanese which is 897,994 and the number of crimes committed by foreigners which is 17006.

Now let us find the percentages. First the Japanese 897/915= 98.03% of the total. Now, the foreigners 170/915=1.85. If you add both numbers and round up, they will add to 1.

The total population of Japan is 127 million, 125 miilion + 2 million foreigners in percentage terms 98% Japanese and 2% foreigners

So if you compare the crime numbers to the population numbers they are about the same. You were correct when you said"Almost the same for both communities. " But your mathematical reasoning was flawed. What is wrong with the Vietnamese? You may. Ok, let us use the same reasoning.

The total number of crimes committed by Vietnamese was 5,140 and the total number of crimes committed by foreigners 17006. Find the percentages. Vietnamese 5140/17006= 30.2% What does 30.2% mean? It means out all the crimes committed by foreigners, Vietnamese are committing 30% but they are 9% of the foreigner population.

So what does it all mean? Simple. if a crime was committed, there is 2% chance that it was committed by foreigner and if it was committed by foreigner, there is 30% chance it was committed by a Vietnamese national.

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"The Vietnamese community of 260,000 committed 3,177 crimes,"

Read the article,"By nationality, police recorded 5,140 crimes committed by Vietnamese,"

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Educator: "a person who commits thefts in a sneaking way, without the use of force or violence"

Sounds like simply a "thief". A person who uses force and/or violence is a robber/mugger.

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You do realize that the same person can be charged multiple crimes and most often do. This is what can skew the numbers. As for the actual crime, we need to dive deeper to understand what they are. Stealing food is vastly different to pick stealing card, pocketing or entering people’s houses. Like wise overstaying you visa is not the same as any other crime which directly affects somebody else. I need to see a breakdown of stats to really understand what’s going on.

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Foreigners Doing all the Crime in Japan - Myth!

YouTube

https://youtu.be/ALrwRlYrDss

Foreign crime includes vis violations too!

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If they are here on a permanent residency then they should face legal punishment same as Japanese citizens. Some of these people don't appreciate their life in Japan by breaking the law. Of course Japanese people also commit crime but these foreigners should not get a free pass. Do the crime then be ready to pay the price!

No one is saying that foreigners do not get punished. Well, no one apart from you.

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The article shows absolutely no context and is therefore useless.

There is much more chance of a foreigner being a crime victim of a Japanese than vice versa.

I personally know many hardworking Vietnamese both in Japan and Vietnam so articles with headlines such as this one, without sufficient analysis seems to be an affront.

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They count visa overstaying as a crime, which of course is a crime that Japanese cannot commit. It's a very dishonest way to scare people into thinking foreigners are dangerous.

Agree. Very good post. What I would like to see are stats regarding foreign crime in Japan EXCLUDING visa overstaying. Of course, Japan Inc. will NEVER release these figures because foreign crime would be non existent.

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