Woman arrested for leaving newborn son in toilet bowl where he drowned

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The fact a 34-year-old woman would have a baby in a bathroom without calling the father to say take her to the hospital is the real truth in Japan that no one wants to talk about - the negative ratings on this comment is testimony of truth.

Disgusting story.

A sociopath has no empathy for others, criticize them is lost cause, because they believe they did nothing wrong

Even reptiles make better mothers than this lowlife form.

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Can't blame you.

"Woman drowns newborn baby in toilet bowl" There you go. I fixed the headline.

When there is no thought of hope then this occurs

Disgusting to say the least, could have given the baby to adoption but she chose to KILL rather than being discovered for whatever reason.

Being in an izakaya, I'm surprised she didn't give the age-old excuse, "I was drunk and don't remember."

I didn't mean to kill him yet leaves in toliet bowl? At least admit your crimes.

Clearly baby hatches are not known at all. Can we please have some media around the baby hatch? Perhaps a baby hatch character called hatchi-chan needs to be made. Then a TV program with all the faces of talento's in the corner nodding along.

I have different perspective.

Where is the father?

Why is she working this late in her pregnancy?

Any family, friends or co workers to help?

So many things in society might have gone against this 'criminal'

I dont think she would have wanted this outcome.

She obviously has no friends to ask for help. Sad.

Seesaw7Today 09:14 am JST

She obviously has no friends to ask for help. Sad.

I would have to agree. I think it's hard for most of us who make comments to understand the constraints of Japanese society, whether real or conceived. "Oh, just drop the baby off at a "baby hatch" or "adoption center" like as if they are dotting the map as frequently as a convenience store or it's as simple as making a hair appointment. BTW, look up how many "baby hatches" there are scattered across Japan, guessing just one?

And then there is the stigma attached of being a single woman and having to go through all the red tape and per-natal hospital visits and the costs of it all not to mention a delivery in a hospital room probably having no health insurance working in a pub part-time. She would obviously have to have someone to be there according to the hospital when she delivers the baby so a family member or friend which she would have to involve.

Now I'm not making excuses on her behalf but merely point out the hurdles involved in a society and a governmental structure that tends to put much of the burden on the individual and leaves people with little means VERY few options or support. She will pay a very steep price for her actions and rightfully so but we must not forget that were there a more abundant means of support that there might have been a more positive outcome, a life saved, one less murder. R.I.P. little one.

When you have nothing in life, when no one attaches any value to you being alive, but when you have no future, no home, no job, no money, and when people look down upon you as a useless species of filth because you may suffer from a mental illness............there are people in all societies who live like this through no fault of their own, yet we are all so quik to judge them. Dog forbid, as a young woman, that I am never reduced to nothing of worth.

Such a sad sad story. Wondering where was the father, you need two to make a baby.

Nothing but sadness for the baby and the woman who did this to her son - when people are isolated they make bad mistakes and do things they probably wouldn't if they had at least one or two supportive friends who can give them a different perspective.

This woman could be in the sex industry or she might just be somebody who couldn't tell anybody who cared about her situation. That poor kid never had a chance. The stigma of pregnancy outside marriage is still heavy in Japan.

While I aint saying the worst aspects of single parenthood like some having multiple children by different fathers yet are in no frame of mind or financial situation to have kids like this should be the norm in Japan, the balance could be found so that women and teenage girls on their own and pregnant don't have to go so far to hide their pregnancies and births.

It 'seems' most of the downvotes are from Japanese posters who are unhappy with the harsh criticism laid upon this 34yrs old Japanese woman. That somehow, this situation has to be seen from a uniquely Japanese social perspective to understand or that we should sympathize because she has no friends or doesn't have a good family.

I say......buy and use a condom.

Or are they somehow unavailable, too expensive, or have some cultural stigma attached to them.

Rest In Peace, little one.

And again...

Until these people start getting life in prison for murdering their children, we'll be reading about this, coin locker babies, babies left in parking lots, buried in planters on balconies, etc., DAILY.

Treating your own baby like a piece of feces.

So sad, immoral and utterly disturbing.

Giving birth is supposed to be a celebration (I watched and supported my wife giving birth for my 3 kids).

If I were the person to discover that, I believe I would get a trauma, and I have watched plenty of hard core horror or war movies.

@MilesTeg

It 'seems' most of the downvotes are from Japanese posters who are unhappy with harsh TRUE criticism!

BINGO!

I showed this article to my partner and se cried.I to find it deeply upsetting, more so that it is quite close to my abode and the woman may be someone we have interacted with.

I find it unlikely the woman wanted to commit murder, more likely lost her mind from her situation, temporary insanity possibly. She needs help and fast.

An improved social services is required now for women like this and many other family issues.

How many people are fine with abortions but want this woman locked up? Yes, there are differences but they are not that great.

Roy Sophveason: "Between July 2003 and March 2018, Japan had 149 known cases of neonaticide, around 10 a year. For comparison, in the USA between 2008 and 2017 there were an estimated 2,851 cases, around 300 a year. Even factoring in that there may be spikes in some years, and massive underreporting in Japan, it is clearly not exceptionally frequent here."

Just out of curiousity, what's the ratio of young people to elderly in all these other countries you point to to deflect? How many pregnancies in those other countries as well compared with Japan? And how about the penalties in those other nations, as opposed to just MAYBE being charged with "wrongful abandonment of a corpse" if anything?

Surreptitious_Nihon: "I'm pretty sure only one nation has the problem of 'Coin-operated-locker babies' and by extension, I'd say leaving babies in toilets is close to being a uniquely local problem. But of course, if we just tell ourselves to look overseas where everything bad is 'decidedly not more frequent" then we don't need to take much responsibility for it."

Exaclty! And you'll notice the poster in question has not been back here since. That's the second stage of coping with criticism after deflecting, just ignore it and pretend you know better.

Police quoted Koseki as saying she didn’t mean for her baby to die and that she thought someone would find him.

Yes, because a helpless, literally just born infant is safe in a toilet bowl half filled with water. What a pathetic excuse. If she had actual sense, she would have at least picked the baby out and placed them on the floor before going for help. Japan has a serious problem with women committing infanticide and it needs to be addressed.

In a country where the population is declining at an astonishing rate, it’s just a shame that the Government doesn’t do anything at all to protect the innocent babies! The Government needs to invest in “ no questions asked orphanages “ where young women who panic after giving birth can simply drop their babies there instead of killing babies. The Government throws around money on other countries as aid yet doesn’t do anything to protect its own future generations… shame on them!!!

@Jim

In a country where the population is declining at an astonishing rate, it’s just a shame that the Government doesn’t do anything at all to protect the innocent babies!

Government throws around money on other countries as aid yet doesn’t do anything to protect its own future generations

as "they" say THIS IS JAPAN!