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Woman arrested on suspicion of abandoning baby at home after giving birth in toilet

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Police in Kobe, Hyogo Prefecture, have arrested a 31-year-old unemployed woman on suspicion of abandoning the body of a newborn baby after giving birth at home.

According to police, the woman, who has an intellectual disability, gave birth to the infant in the toilet at around 2:40 p.m. on May 16 at her home in Tarumi Ward, Kobe Shimbun reported. Police said the woman placed the infant in a plastic bag.

The next day, she called police and said she had given birth. She was quoted as saying, “I called a hospital because my baby wasn't breathing, and they told me to call the police.”

Police said the woman’s mother who lives with her told them she didn’t even know that her daughter was pregnant.

Police said an autopsy will be conducted to determine the baby’s cause of death.

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If the mother was not aware her disabled child was pregnant, huge red flag. DNA should be done on the child to determine the father as personally being disabled a sexual crime might have happened. This is sad Sunday morning reading.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Why would you arrest a woman for this and not provide her help and support?

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Why would you arrest a woman for this and not provide her help and support?

agree.

DNA should be done on the child to determine the father as personally being disabled a sexual crime might have happened. 

agree

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Why would you arrest a woman for this and not provide her help and support?

Good question. The woman needs help, not 3 weeks of being "interrogated". What kind of stupid imbecile judge issued an arrest warrant?

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A weekly occurrence in Japan.

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A weekly occurrence in Japan.

It decidedly isn't. In Japan, neonaticide happens in about one in 100,000 live births, which makes it roughly a bimonthly occurrence (and puts Japan on the lower end of the international range).

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This woman in all probability did not know she was even pregnant and when she gave birth was in shock and walked away thinking none of it due to her disability. Her mother claimed she had no idea her daughter was pregnant, and so, confirms the likelihood that the daughter did not know herself.

Prayers to the daughter and her recovery, and condolences for the wee one who will never know life.

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> /dev/randomToday  11:16 am JST

A weekly occurrence in Japan.

It decidedly isn't. In Japan, neonaticide happens in about one in 100,000 live births, which makes it roughly a bimonthly occurrence (and puts Japan on the lower end of the international range).

Folks place way too much trust in national statistics on the increase of 'crimes' such as neonaticide (and murder, sexual assault,, etc.)

Obtaining reliable data on neonaticide in Japan (and in some other nations) is challenging due to its sensitive nature, severe underreporting and potential merging with infant abandonment statistics.

It's definitely not as high as places like India, but probably not among the lowest. There is no real way of knowing for sure.

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That baby is the innocent one in this. Bless that baby. That lady is a loser.

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Obtaining reliable data on neonaticide in Japan (and in some other nations) is challenging due to its sensitive nature, severe underreporting and potential merging with infant abandonment statistics.

Fair enough. Since we cannot compare the unknown, we can call it the "rate of reported neonaticide" and leave speculation out of it.

It's definitely not as high as places like India

Or Hungary. Or New Zealand. One does not have to look at developing countries to find a surprisingly high incidence of neonaticide and infanticide.

There's a simple reason why Japan has a fairly low rate of neonaticides, though: The majority is motivated by unwanted, concealed teen pregnancies, of which Japan also has comparatively few.

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/dev/randomToday  07:11 pm JST

Obtaining reliable data on neonaticide in Japan (and in some other nations) is challenging due to its sensitive nature, severe underreporting and potential merging with infant abandonment statistics.

Fair enough. Since we cannot compare the unknown, we can call it the "rate of reported neonaticide" and leave speculation out of it.

It's definitely not as high as places like India

Or Hungary. Or New Zealand. One does not have to look at developing countries to find a surprisingly high incidence of neonaticide and infanticide.

There's a simple reason why Japan has a fairly low rate of neonaticides, though: The majority is motivated by unwanted, concealed teen pregnancies, of which Japan also has comparatively few.

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Dev, not sure where you are getting your information, but New Zealand's neonaticide rate, is not notably high compared to other countries. Neonaticide rates in industrialized countries, including New Zealand, generally range from 2.4 to 7.0 per 100,000 births​​.

Again, though there are so many variables its's hard to know with much accuracy any nations neonaticide rate

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Dev, not sure where you are getting your information, but New Zealand's neonaticide rate, is not notably high compared to other countries. Neonaticide rates in industrialized countries, including New Zealand, generally range from 2.4 to 7.0 per 100,000 births​​.

... which is still more than twice to seven times the reported rate of Japan. And yes, we can argue reported vs. actual rates until the cows come home, but my original point was: it is, thankfully, not a "weekly occurrence in Japan".

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Is it really necessary to arrest the mentally retarded woman in this case? Sometimes I think the legal system is completely potty.

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Is it really necessary to arrest the mentally retarded woman in this case?

What else should they do? Not arrest her on suspicion of murder? Of course the woman should receive all the help she needs, but to decide that is not the competence of the police.

("Retarded" is outdated and offensive language, by the way.)

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> /dev/randomToday  08:37 pm JST

Dev, not sure where you are getting your information, but New Zealand's neonaticide rate, is not notably high compared to other countries. Neonaticide rates in industrialized countries, including New Zealand, generally range from 2.4 to 7.0 per 100,000 births​​.

... which is still more than twice to seven times the reported rate of Japan. And yes, we can argue reported vs. actual rates until the cows come home, but my original point was: it is, thankfully, not a "weekly occurrence in Japan".

As we have both agreed, there is no way for us to know that.

Given the stigma forced upon Japanese women compared to Western women (hence the hiding of dead babies in lockers, etc., in Japan), I think it is highly likely that Japan's rate is at least the same, and probably higher than the average.

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She was quoted as saying, “I called a hospital because my baby wasn't breathing, and they told me to call the police.”

Why in the hell would she call the police for a medical issue?!?! Are hospitals in Japan really that incompetent? They should have sent an ambulance ASAP and then called the police themselves to report a possible crime.

Also, the mother not knowing that their child was pregnant is extremely suspicious, especially considering that they live under the same roof.

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