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Disgusting.

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well-balanced parents dealt with circumstances understandable by Japanese logic

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The police may try to build a case for false imprisonment or abandonment resulting in death.

Isn't there enough to charge them with murder already ?

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Murder charges would be in order.

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Which would you guys prefer - they rush a charge to satisfy your blood-lust, fudging the case and not getting a conviction, or doing a proper investigation and ensuring a conviction?

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May she be comforted in heaven, and tended to by angels. May the so-called parents receive do justice

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What a slow, painfullly agonising death she must have had. The parents need to be done for manslaughter, or whatever the Japanese equivalent is.

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There are days when I think that the crime sets the penalty. This is one of them. I suppose life in a J-prison for murder will have to do.

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It’s obvious she had heating on and off or she wouldn’t have survived for 15 years - she’d have died 14.5 years ago during the first winter.

That said, have no problem making them live in the exact same conditions and seeing how long they can last.

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Bloody hell, 19 kilos? Literally nothing but skin and bones, how horrifying...

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“The parents had a surveillance camera installed inside her room,”

And another ten aimed at the surroundings. It’s looking pretty clear that they knew what they were doing was not acceptable. That poor child.

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Another day, another story or parents killing their kids. TIJ. Had to do a double take on this one since I know an Airi Kakimoto in Osaka, but she can't be 33 yet.

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I hate to hate on a parent who lost their child, however it is not hard to do when the reason is because of the parents. I do hope they will go to jail for the rest of their lives and that she will haunt them for their wicked behavior.

@Strangerland - Who are you calling blood-lusting? I don't think anyone is that way. We are all appalled at the savage behavior by people who are supposed to have had her best interest at heart.

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my earlier comment was meant as sarcasm about the illogical unjust Japanese legal system

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@Strangerland - Who are you calling blood-lusting? 

Those pushing for an arrest to be made before the police have gathered enough evidence.

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This is crazy. How about family members or neighbors never asking questions and reporting the absence of their neighbor's daughter for those many years.

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She had social problems, so J society has to be more prepared. Dementia is increasing so more cases.

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Strangerland: "Those pushing for an arrest to be made before the police have gathered enough evidence."

Yeah, god forbid the obvious -- her freezing to death and suffering malnutrition before dying to boot -- along with the parents admitting they had confined, be enough. What more would you need, detective? Imagine if you didn't apprehend suspects before an investigation had enough evidence -- and in a country where they can keep you locked up for NOTHING for up to a month!

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Yeah, god forbid the obvious -- her freezing to death and suffering malnutrition before dying to boot -- along with the parents admitting they had confined, be enough. What more would you need, detective?

Enough to be damn sure I'd get a conviction. Again I ask, which is preferable, a quick charge to feed the blood-lust of posters on the internet, or a quality charge that will actually stick? Because you are one of the loudest when charges are dropped against someone.

in a country where they can keep you locked up for NOTHING for up to a month!

No, that's not true. Fact check yourself son.

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Murder charges would be in order.

That is what happens under American law when kids are found starved to death. In some cases the parents are arrested immediately and others it can take a month or two for the investigation to conclude.

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The parents in this case have been arrested, and the investigation is ongoing.

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If she was mentally ill, a hospital is where they should had taken her

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Must be pretty cold to freeze to death. Parents should suffer likewise.

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@Strangerland - I don't see anyone pushing for an arrest to be made before the police have gathered enough evidence. Where did you?

Enough to be damn sure I'd get a conviction.

Once again, I don't see anyone asking for anything but that.

Again I ask, which is preferable, a quick charge to feed the blood-lust of posters on the internet, or a quality charge that will actually stick?

Police do not care about how people feel. I'm sure they and everyone else on here feel that they want a charge that will stick. Why wold anyone want anything different?

As for Smith's comment about it being up to a month, if I am not wrong, it is 23 days, and without a lawyer. That can and has aided the police in getting a suspiciously high rate of convictions, most likely due to physical and mental pressure to just confess and that is pretty much the same as getting a flimsy charge that won't stick because the wrong person gets convicted. Maybe that is just me. Frankly, these parents were the only ones taking care of her, so I doubt the police have to look much further than them, since nobody else was there. But I think they will do their job very well and a conviction will stick. I mean, who else was responsible? Don't know.

Also, I am a little surprised about your idea that people are JUST blood thirsty. What happened to this poor woman was barbaric to an extreme level that shocks us and makes us want those guilty to be punished at a level that fits the crime, and we all know..... that the punishment will and can never even come close to fitting the crime.

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I don't see anyone pushing for an arrest to be made before the police have gathered enough evidence.

The parents have already been arrested, and charged with abandonment of a body. Posters here made the following quotes:

Isn't there enough to charge them with murder already ?

And:

Murder charges would be in order.

These comments are pushing for a murder charge, while the police are still gathering evidence.

I am a little surprised about your idea that people are JUST blood thirsty.

I didn't say they were 'just' blood thirsty, and my quotes above show the need for murder charges to be pressed right away rather than doing the smart thing and ensuring a conviction, rather than rushing to a charge.

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As for Smith's comment about it being up to a month, if I am not wrong, it is 23 days, and without a lawyer.

And contrary to his claims, actually does require some evidence, which is reviewed by a judge three times during those 23 days.

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I'd haunt those parents until the day they died.

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Frankly, these parents were the only ones taking care of her, so I doubt the police have to look much further than them, since nobody else was there. 

There will probably be issues regarding the sanity of the parents as well as others that may have known and didn't do anything.

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@Strangerland - Okay, but seems to be much ado about nothing anyway. The can't force the charges. People do want a "hurry-up-hanging" simply because of the severity, and that is understandable... once again, because of the severity. LOL

The information is reviewed by a judge three times during those 23 days? I have never heard of that. Do you have any resources? Not that I am doubting you, I just would love to see the procedures and wonder when those were put in place? Very recently, would be my guess.

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@Lizz - Very good point.I think their insanity is a foregone conclusion here, because you have to be insane to treat your own child like that in the first place. Hopefully that will not influence their incarceration time. Killing a child in a fit of anger or frustration seems to be the worst act a parent can do, but that takes a back seat to what these people did. You have to have some serious grey matter twisted upstairs for that.

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The information is reviewed by a judge three times during those 23 days?

Yes, although I was wrong about the 23 days:

If you are arrested, you can be held for up to 23 days, with a possibility of extension, without being formally charged with a crime. First, the Japanese police may detain you for up to 48 hours. During this time, they are required to inform you of the crime of which you are suspected, of your right to remain silent, of your right to hire a lawyer at your own expense and of your right to have the Embassy of Canada notified of your arrest. Under Japanese law, the police are allowed to begin their initial questioning before you see a lawyer.

If the police decide, within this 48-hour period, that there is enough evidence to justify detaining you further, they must present the evidence to a public prosecutor. If the prosecutor agrees with the police, he/she has up to 24 hours to ask for an initial 10-day detention order from a judge so that the police can continue their investigation. The prosecutor can request a second 10-day detention period to continue the investigation, if necessary. If there is not enough evidence, the case may be dropped.

Under exceptional circumstances, for a limited number of very specific crimes, this period could be extended by another five days, for a total of 28 days in detention from the time of arrest. You should proactively monitor the progress of your case and discuss the length of your detention with your lawyer.

Link: https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/advisories/japan/criminal-law-system#preliminary

and wonder when those were put in place? Very recently, would be my guess.

No, it's always been like that. It's just that the judges rarely ever say no to the extensions, with the exception of the five day extension at the end. But the police usually have their case ready by the 23 day mark, and they charge the person within that time.

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@ Strangerland - Thank you! But let's hope neither of us needs that. I'm pretty law-abiding myself. I dont know about you. Just kidding. WOW, the Embassy of Canadian must get pretty busy. Sorry, another attempt at humor. Well, I am still wondering when you have a right to have a lawyer present during questioning. Is it after the first 48 hours or after the 28 days of detention.

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Well, I am still wondering when you have a right to have a lawyer present during questioning.

That right does not exist in Japan.

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