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Dan Lewis
Disgusting.
macv
well-balanced parents dealt with circumstances understandable by Japanese logic
Bintaro
Isn't there enough to charge them with murder already ?
OssanAmerica
Murder charges would be in order.
Strangerland
Which would you guys prefer - they rush a charge to satisfy your blood-lust, fudging the case and not getting a conviction, or doing a proper investigation and ensuring a conviction?
Michael Jackson
May she be comforted in heaven, and tended to by angels. May the so-called parents receive do justice
Luddite
What a slow, painfullly agonising death she must have had. The parents need to be done for manslaughter, or whatever the Japanese equivalent is.
gelendestrasse
There are days when I think that the crime sets the penalty. This is one of them. I suppose life in a J-prison for murder will have to do.
Andy
It’s obvious she had heating on and off or she wouldn’t have survived for 15 years - she’d have died 14.5 years ago during the first winter.
That said, have no problem making them live in the exact same conditions and seeing how long they can last.
Madden
Bloody hell, 19 kilos? Literally nothing but skin and bones, how horrifying...
smithinjapan
Another day, another story or parents killing their kids. TIJ. Had to do a double take on this one since I know an Airi Kakimoto in Osaka, but she can't be 33 yet.
sandiegoluv
I hate to hate on a parent who lost their child, however it is not hard to do when the reason is because of the parents. I do hope they will go to jail for the rest of their lives and that she will haunt them for their wicked behavior.
@Strangerland - Who are you calling blood-lusting? I don't think anyone is that way. We are all appalled at the savage behavior by people who are supposed to have had her best interest at heart.
macv
my earlier comment was meant as sarcasm about the illogical unjust Japanese legal system
Strangerland
Those pushing for an arrest to be made before the police have gathered enough evidence.
Hawkeye
This is crazy. How about family members or neighbors never asking questions and reporting the absence of their neighbor's daughter for those many years.
Goodlucktoyou
She had social problems, so J society has to be more prepared. Dementia is increasing so more cases.
smithinjapan
Strangerland: "Those pushing for an arrest to be made before the police have gathered enough evidence."
Yeah, god forbid the obvious -- her freezing to death and suffering malnutrition before dying to boot -- along with the parents admitting they had confined, be enough. What more would you need, detective? Imagine if you didn't apprehend suspects before an investigation had enough evidence -- and in a country where they can keep you locked up for NOTHING for up to a month!
Strangerland
Enough to be damn sure I'd get a conviction. Again I ask, which is preferable, a quick charge to feed the blood-lust of posters on the internet, or a quality charge that will actually stick? Because you are one of the loudest when charges are dropped against someone.
No, that's not true. Fact check yourself son.
Lizz
Murder charges would be in order.
That is what happens under American law when kids are found starved to death. In some cases the parents are arrested immediately and others it can take a month or two for the investigation to conclude.
Strangerland
The parents in this case have been arrested, and the investigation is ongoing.
lostrune2
If she was mentally ill, a hospital is where they should had taken her
sandiegoluv
@Strangerland - I don't see anyone pushing for an arrest to be made before the police have gathered enough evidence. Where did you?
Once again, I don't see anyone asking for anything but that.
Police do not care about how people feel. I'm sure they and everyone else on here feel that they want a charge that will stick. Why wold anyone want anything different?
As for Smith's comment about it being up to a month, if I am not wrong, it is 23 days, and without a lawyer. That can and has aided the police in getting a suspiciously high rate of convictions, most likely due to physical and mental pressure to just confess and that is pretty much the same as getting a flimsy charge that won't stick because the wrong person gets convicted. Maybe that is just me. Frankly, these parents were the only ones taking care of her, so I doubt the police have to look much further than them, since nobody else was there. But I think they will do their job very well and a conviction will stick. I mean, who else was responsible? Don't know.
Also, I am a little surprised about your idea that people are JUST blood thirsty. What happened to this poor woman was barbaric to an extreme level that shocks us and makes us want those guilty to be punished at a level that fits the crime, and we all know..... that the punishment will and can never even come close to fitting the crime.
Strangerland
The parents have already been arrested, and charged with abandonment of a body. Posters here made the following quotes:
And:
These comments are pushing for a murder charge, while the police are still gathering evidence.
I didn't say they were 'just' blood thirsty, and my quotes above show the need for murder charges to be pressed right away rather than doing the smart thing and ensuring a conviction, rather than rushing to a charge.
Strangerland
And contrary to his claims, actually does require some evidence, which is reviewed by a judge three times during those 23 days.
SaikoPhysco
I'd haunt those parents until the day they died.
Lizz
Frankly, these parents were the only ones taking care of her, so I doubt the police have to look much further than them, since nobody else was there.
There will probably be issues regarding the sanity of the parents as well as others that may have known and didn't do anything.
sandiegoluv
@Strangerland - Okay, but seems to be much ado about nothing anyway. The can't force the charges. People do want a "hurry-up-hanging" simply because of the severity, and that is understandable... once again, because of the severity. LOL
The information is reviewed by a judge three times during those 23 days? I have never heard of that. Do you have any resources? Not that I am doubting you, I just would love to see the procedures and wonder when those were put in place? Very recently, would be my guess.
sandiegoluv
@Lizz - Very good point.I think their insanity is a foregone conclusion here, because you have to be insane to treat your own child like that in the first place. Hopefully that will not influence their incarceration time. Killing a child in a fit of anger or frustration seems to be the worst act a parent can do, but that takes a back seat to what these people did. You have to have some serious grey matter twisted upstairs for that.
Strangerland
Yes, although I was wrong about the 23 days:
Link: https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/advisories/japan/criminal-law-system#preliminary
No, it's always been like that. It's just that the judges rarely ever say no to the extensions, with the exception of the five day extension at the end. But the police usually have their case ready by the 23 day mark, and they charge the person within that time.
sandiegoluv
@ Strangerland - Thank you! But let's hope neither of us needs that. I'm pretty law-abiding myself. I dont know about you. Just kidding. WOW, the Embassy of Canadian must get pretty busy. Sorry, another attempt at humor. Well, I am still wondering when you have a right to have a lawyer present during questioning. Is it after the first 48 hours or after the 28 days of detention.
Tommy Jones
That right does not exist in Japan.