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Actor Armie Hammer accused of rape; attorney calls claim 'outrageous'

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Well it looks like his career is over with more "he said, she said" evidence. These days every woman who's ever had sex or come in close proximity to a man is claiming "rape". It's become a lucrative industry.

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Never give your last name and always ensure she finishes pleased, never crying ... er ... after the spanking is done. That's what a friend told me.

Brettler said that as recently as July 2020, the accuser had sent graphic text messages to Hammer detailing her sexual desires.

In specialty play, it is hard to know what the other person really wants ... I hear. That's why prior discussion and some "safe signal" that will work in every planned situation have to be previously agreed.

I'm not doubting her. What concerns me is if they had similar rough engagements for multiple years, then 1 time she wasn't happy, and continued to see him for months longer, how is he supposed to know what she unhappy or even felt abused?

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There are some very creepy stories about this guy, and some even creepier texts he wrote (a fetish involving cannibalism). Wealth and looks sometimes bring out the real person, not always for the best.

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So he's been having affairs?

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I don't know who this guy is and do not take sides all I do know is from personal experience jumping to conclusions and public accusations without facts or evidence can lead to major problems.

I was the recipient of allegations in a former job, I was not told who made them or when, what or where it allegedly occurred.

I was suspended from work and the rumours flew around.

Now I have ASD ( Autism) with OCD so luckily the person that hired me knew this and realised something didn't add up he knew I do not like to be physically touched and do not like touching others I even avoid shaking hands. Then it turns out I was not even in the office and hadn't been for months at the alleged time as I was on location at an overseas client's and then working from home caring for my son that had undergone a serious emergency surgery.

Turns out the accuser thought I was her rival for the position she wanted and wanted to get me out of the way ( she admitted this when confronted with the facts).

Results were the HR and legal sections took no disciplinary action towards her, the reasoning was it would discourage real victims from coming forward.

I eventually left because the rumours had made it impossible to remain despite the announcement that I was cleared of having done anything wrong what is worse she finally got the promotion just a few years later.

So now I view all these stories with: Make no judgement one way or the other until cold hard facts are available, until then it is all hearsay and we do not know who is telling the truth.

We now live in a sad world where accusations are facts, social media can destroy one's life, a written consent is needed for everything if you want to be safe,

I have cameras in my workshop not for theft but for my own protection if alone with any female client this was something my wife recommend.

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On April 24, 2017...

If they're going to cry rape, report it sooner. Period.

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cancelled

bye bye arm & hammer

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It’s like being sued for improper/ lack of orgasm

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Report it within a day, two at the most, or it wasn't rape.

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Report it within a day, two at the most, or it wasn't rape.

No wonder victims of rape and sexual assaults can suffer from depression and suicidal thoughts.

I wonder if you ever think about the consequences and impact of your comments, or are such posts just to get the lolz.

Rape and sexual assaults are widespread. Many won't come forward precisely because they are not believed or mocked. Chances are - you have a friend, or colleague or relation who has been attacked. Would you really say such a thing to them if they confided in you?

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No wonder victims of rape and sexual assaults can suffer from depression and suicidal thoughts.

I wonder if you ever think about the consequences and impact of your comments, or are such posts just to get the lolz.

Rape and sexual assaults are widespread. Many won't come forward precisely because they are not believed or mocked. Chances are - you have a friend, or colleague or relation who has been attacked. Would you really say such a thing to them if they confided in you?

Replace "rape" with another crime. Now report it 4 years later. No one is going to believe you. No one should. At least consult with someone in a manner that will leave evidence that you consulted. These victims are not giving us any rational reason to believe them.

Imagine me claiming that you, Toasted Heretic, had physically assaulted me 4 years ago. No photos, nothing. Just I came out today and claimed it. Who would believe it?

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Replace "rape" with another crime. Now report it 4 years later. No one is going to believe you. No one should. At least consult with someone in a manner that will leave evidence that you consulted. These victims are not giving us any rational reason to believe them.

Yeah, these Victims clearly don’t deserve justice for reacting as victims do, and not how others think they should react. Seems legit.

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Now report it 4 years later. No one is going to believe you. No one should. At least consult with someone in a manner that will leave evidence that you consulted. These victims are not giving us any rational reason to believe them.

Do you understand how devestating rape is?

Do you know what it does to people and why they won't come forward?

Disgusting.

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Do you understand how devestating rape is?

No. I've never been raped, so I don't know. What's it like?

Do you know what it does to people and why they won't come forward?

No. Again, I've never been raped. Please tell me.

Disgusting.

I'll tell you what is disgusting. An attitude that does not foster understanding or help reach a solution is disgusting.

Rape is bad. I don't think anyone is arguing that point. Does a victim have free license to claim he or she was raped regardless of the time that has elapsed? Must we accept his or her claim without proof? Are we to prosecute people simply on the victim's word? What do we do when the victim has lied?

I'm not saying rapists should go free. I'm saying prove that that person actually raped someone before smearing their name all over and ruining their life.

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Toasted HereticMar. 19  10:32 pm JST

Report it within a day, two at the most, or it wasn't rape.

No wonder victims of rape and sexual assaults can suffer from depression and suicidal thoughts.

I wonder if you ever think about the consequences and impact of your comments, or are such posts just to get the lolz.

Rape and sexual assaults are widespread. Many won't come forward precisely because they are not believed or mocked. Chances are - you have a friend, or colleague or relation who has been attacked. Would you really say such a thing to them if they confided in you?

Rape is about instilling fear, it's a crime of ego and overbearing power. It makes the victim scared for years, esp. if it's a male.

Thomas TankMar. 19  07:35 pm JST

Report it within a day, two at the most, or it wasn't rape.

It is RAPE, whether it happened today, yesterday, last week, 1999! It stays in the mind like a landmine and when it 'blows up' the victim needs help, NOW. It's a psychological demon seed.

SpeedMar. 19  01:24 pm JST

On April 24, 2017...

If they're going to cry rape, report it sooner. Period.

People who are raped are scared to report it, and that's what rapists like and want. It's about power.

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No offense intended to @starpunk, Toasted but Please (recommended), type, at least, the first part of Your responses before using the ” interface button. On the main section page, ie “Entertainment”, the 1:41p post makes it look like @THeretic posted that ‘...or it wasn’t ...’ remarks.

Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.” - Frank Herbert.

Agreed. Predators plant the seed that becomes ab insidious worm that poisons the soul. Tragically, for some, it can be a lifetime of anguish.

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No offense intended to @starpunk, Toasted but Please (recommended), type, at least, the first part of Your responses before using the ” interface button. On the main section page, ie “Entertainment”, the 1:41p post makes it look like @THeretic posted that ‘...or it wasn’t ...’ remarks.

Using every font option and bizarre punctuation makes your posts very difficult to read.

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Toasted @1:41p’s repost makes it look like You said “Toasted HereticMar. 19  10:32 pm JST Report it within a day, two at the most, or it wasn't rape.”

We understand that’s NOT yours but others may not without going through an entire past thread.

Are we to guess your @7:06a is intended for who??

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No. I've never been raped, so I don't know. What's it like?

You surely must be aware. After all, you acknowledge that

Rape is bad.

Talk to anyone who's been raped and there will be many similarities and many differences.

It's the violent act of being penetrated against your will. The trauma which can last a lifetime. The fear, the mistrusts, the anger, the low self esteem, suicidal thoughts and acts, the depression, mental illnesses. Some become reclusive, some are unable to speak about it for years, some suffer from self loathing, some try to self harm themselves, some are unable to have relationships, some suffer from violent relationships.

It's devestating because it can destroy you or make you a shadow of your former self. Because not all survivors are of equal strength. Some do not want to relive the trauma and don't come forward, and some decide that they are not able to face the disbelief and scorn they might face.

And it's not just about sexual gratification. As starpunk says - it's about power.

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@Toasty

I thought perhaps you could share from personal experience, but if you are as inexperienced as I am, I would guess your insight on what it is like is equally nonexistent.

Anyway, my point remains. As bad as rape is, it still needs to be proven.

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snowymountainhellMar. 21  03:50 pm JST

“Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.” - Frank Herbert.

Agreed. Predators plant the seed that becomes ab insidious worm that poisons the soul. Tragically, for some, it can be a lifetime of anguish.

It never leaves the victim's mind, because that person is invaded. A past GF i dated when I was in college struggled with being raped (long before we met) and it never left her. She finally took her own life on Christmas Eve, 2016.

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