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Actress Emma Watson says revealing photo does not undermine feminism

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Beginning to wonder how much more lecturing from Hollywood's self-congratulatory elite the public at large can take before self-righteous, holier-than-thou fatigue sets in and takes hold. Are we spending our hard earned to be entertained or patronized? Whether politics or feminism?

Berates Beyoncé, then claims artistic license. Can Emma Watson, genuinely devote the time as a UN Women Goodwill Ambassador to justify the role, or is it all, in reality just a means to an end?

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When I saw her photo for the cover of Vanity Fair, all I could think was - "10 points for Gryffindor!"

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I enjoy Emma Watson films.

If feminism equates to an even playing field for social mobility, employment, where appropriate golf membership, I will have some of that. The fact remains women are from Venus and men are from Mars, nature is to blame for that.

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She can choose to show whatever she wants, the same way men can. Isn't that the basis of feminism? More power to her!

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PC run amok. The people saying this about/to her are being ridiculous. Her quote is the best:

“Feminism is about giving women choice. Feminism is not a stick with which to beat other women with. It’s about freedom, it’s about liberation, it’s about equality. I really don’t know what my tits have to do with it. It’s very confusing.

That's awesome. I love this girl.

But one thing we need to remember is that with the advent of the internet, we see the same phenomenon world-wide that we see on JT - no matter what anyone does, someone will always find a way to criticize it, and that criticism will reach a wide audience.

We need to start coming up with a way to measure the degree to which people actually have these opinions, and the degree to which their opinions should be respected. Is it a widely held belief? Or is it a couple of people only. Is it someone who has a PhD looking into the issue at hand, or some hack who has never managed to get a full time job?

Everyone has an opinion, but some opinions are less valid. It's time to figure out a way to sort the wheat from the chaff.

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Feminism is synonim to hypocrisy.

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The only thing I see from that "revealing" photo is it is not revealing enough. Call me a pig, I really do not care.

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She can choose to show whatever she wants, the same way men can.

Is this right? I don't see men in the buff in the mainstream media.

agree that being lectured by celebs is a bit tiresome.

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Good on her, those photos are incredible too

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Well, she's not the little girl from the Harry Potter series anymore. I see no problem with her artistic modeling. Let's just hope she doesn't follow that trout Miley Ciris. I watched her last movie about the kidnapping in South America. It is a good movie and she acted very well.

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Is this right? I don't see men in the buff in the mainstream media.

I don't see her in the buff in the mainstream media either.

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Much ado about nothing.

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I want my actors and artists to be actors and artists. I am not entertained! When I see one of the HW hippocrates in a movie/performing I see the same person and message they were spouting on the internet yesterday instead of the character they are supposed to be portraying. The illusion has been damaged.

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I want my actors and artists to be actors and artists. I am not entertained! When I see one of the HW hippocrates in a movie/performing I see the same person and message they were spouting on the internet yesterday instead of the character they are supposed to be portraying.

I'd suggest you're in the small minority, or these people would not still be making movies as their movies would not make money, and they would stop being hired to do movies.

And since you're in the small minority, I think they are safe in ignoring opinions like this, and giving their opinions as they see fit.

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This is so goofy, you just have to laugh.

It's ultra-PC harcore feminists criticizing a Hollywood celeb who's going on about artistic values. It's like they're speaking different languages, and they both think that shouting louder will make their point clearer.

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more feminist rubbish! just becasue someone gets their bits out in public makes them an empowered woman?! absolute rubbish. feminists, get back to your corner

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just becasue someone gets their bits out in public makes them an empowered woman?!

I don't see that anyone has made that claim. You're the only one who has even suggested it.

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Who reads Vanity Fair?

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Emma Watson was not called out for her feminist credentials, Emma Watson was criticized for her artistic interpretation and promotion of a feminist agenda over Beyoncé. We are all equal within the confines of the ballot box, pencil in hand, and far be it from me to question Emma Watsons right to free speech or voicing an opinion.

The question cynical old me asks, is where does the populism of celebrity begin and end. And the authority/responsibility to use that platform to engage in promoting a personal political agenda require a mandate? I am not questioning Emma Watson character or integrity. And irrespective of background or education all are votes have equal measure to effect change.

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I get what she's TRYING to say, but it's hard to take anyone seriously on any subject if they're half naked on a bearskin rug.

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And since you're in the small minority, I think they are safe in ignoring opinions like this, and giving their opinions as they see fit.

Hummm, I think I heard that sentiment expressed a while ago about another situation involving an established elite group of people and their attitude toward the plebes... as a result we have a new president.

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“Feminism is about giving women choice. Feminism is not a stick with which to beat other women with. It’s about freedom, it’s about liberation, it’s about equality. I really don’t know what my tits have to do with it."

Sure, couldn't agree more. Thing is Vanity fair chose Watson for 'her tits', face/figure and overall good looks. Is it detrimental to the feminist cause? Not as such, perhaps, but it clearly doesn't help the hundreds of millions of women who don't fit today's beauty standards feel better about themselves. Now it's true celebrity part-time feminists a la Watson have never said they were 100% committed 'to the cause' and represented women, and feminist interests in particular, all the time. They are no more feminists than most men/women who don't do much for the cause but 'wouldn't mind' more equality.

That's imo celebrity feminists thinly veiled hypocrisy. 'Looking good on a photo-shoot' is (or should be) pretty low on women's struggle for equality. Watson reminds me of zoolander's model mates when they say that they DO "help ppl feel better about themselves i.e how to look cool and have nice hair'. The 3 morons could have said those very words: “We’d been doing so many crazy things on that shoot but it felt incredibly artistic and I’ve been so creatively involved and engaged with Tim and I’m so thrilled about how interesting and beautiful the photographs were,”

Watson plays the 'beauty standards' game, again that's her right to do so. Not sure it helps the many talented women who don't get paid what they should or aren't given opportunities simply because they don't fit today's beauty standards though. Look at female journos especially on 24h news channels, they are all stunners these days. How about their as, if not more, counterparts who are over 30yo but also under 160cm and do not have the face/body of a model?

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just becasue someone gets their bits out in public makes them an empowered woman?!

Yeah, there is no electoral college nor gerrymandering for celebrities, so your analogy doesn't work.

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She is right. Art has many enemies.

@ Wakarimasen "Is this right? I don't see men in the buff in the mainstream media."

Oh really? Rolling stone, Elegant, Vogue, Attitude,Esquire, GQ, GT, Another Man....etc etc...all mainstream all with naked men on the cover.

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She has matured into an outstanding role model for women and young women, my daughter included.

I am proud of all that she has accomplished, as an actor and a role model.

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Oops I misquoted my earlier post. Let's try that again:

I think I heard that sentiment expressed a while ago about another situation involving an established elite group of people and their attitude toward the plebes... as a result we have a new president.

Yeah, there is no electoral college nor gerrymandering for celebrities, so your analogy doesn't work.

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Shinjuku No Yaju,

it's hard to take anyone seriously on any subject if they're half naked on a bearskin rug.

Why, precisely?

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Actress Emma Watson seems to be a product of massive "hype" this, past Harry-Potter age. I do not know whom to blame for that, since she is "forced" mostly by some simpletons all over the internet saying "Our Queen, Beauty standards,...". And the she does some photography shots, that are morally questionable, which are also "forced" all over the internet. Can't blame her for degrading then, I guess. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

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the whole feminist movement has gone way too far. a woman poses nude and some guys make a few lewd comments and she cries sexism! put your clothes back on, luv, otherwise dont pull the feminist card!

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a woman poses nude and some guys make a few lewd comments and she cries sexism!

The comments she has commented on weren't about lewd comments, nor did she cry sexism.

Did you even read the article?

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commentius ridiculosus?? Chestus Exposiamus? Still don't see naked men all over the media. certainly not in Japan where they are pixillated. And don't see how enjoying celebs movies as entertainment means I have to swallow their opinions as people.

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What this article didn't mention (and this changes the whole story), is that Watson criticized Beyonce for doing exactly the same thing (expressing her sexuality), a while ago. Hypocrisy.

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What this article didn't mention (and this changes the whole story), is that Watson criticized Beyonce for doing exactly the same thing (expressing her sexuality), a while ago. Hypocrisy.

I agree, it does look like hypocrisy. Hopefully she can learn a lesson from it.

But I don't see how that makes what she is saying wrong (aka changing the whole story). It just means that she is contradicting what she has previously said.

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But I don't see how that makes what she is saying wrong

By changing the whole story I meant that she is being criticized mostly for her hypocrisy first, and that this hypocrisy is nowhere to be found in this article. One comment was like: "Feminism this, feminism that, Beyonce is bad... but hey, here are my tits"...

It is a common understanding that if you do something you criticized somebody else for before, you'll get yourself criticized as well..

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gaijin playa,

a woman poses nude and some guys make a few lewd comments and she cries sexism! put your clothes back on, luv, otherwise dont pull the feminist card!

You obviously didn't read the article. No one posed nude, no one made lewd comments, and no one said a thing about sexism.

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You obviously didn't read the article. No one posed nude, no one made lewd comments, and no one said a thing about sexism.

no, i didnt say that. she didnt pose nude either.

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no, i didnt say that.

Yes you did. Your quote:

a woman poses nude and some guys make a few lewd comments and she cries sexism!

You literally said 'posed nude', 'lewd comments' and 'sexism'. And you were the only one, as pointed out by both LFRAgain and myself.

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Well, the thing is, Watson made comments about Beyonce-

“As I was watching [Beyoncé’s visual album] I felt very conflicted, I felt her message felt very conflicted in the sense that on the one hand she is putting herself in a category of a feminist, but then the camera, it felt very male, such a male voyeuristic experience of her.”

Annie Lennox is knocking Beyonce, too, saying that 'twerking is not feminism'.

Seems a lot of people can't mind their own business...

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I am for Emma Watson and her breasts. There is noting unfeminist in showing them. Women have fought for the right to breast feed in public and to go topless on the beach just like men. Furthermore, in this more open day and age, not only men but lesbian and bisexual women and transgender appreciate bare breasts. Feminism is about the right of women to control their bodies. This means exposing or not exposing their bodies as they and they alone see fit.

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These actresses have usually never done a day;s work in their live . They know less than nothing about life yet develop Left Wing philosophies, Feminist bilge. sexism and stupidity. .

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These actresses have usually never done a day;s

Making movies is work.

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^^ A good actor will make a name of him/her self. A bad actor will be a 1 or few hit wonder (kind of like the main characters of Twilight series - what's their names?) Or forever stay in the B-rated movies. I have a lot less respect to politicians than actors though. Or, I should consider a politician like an actor, they lie through their teeth all the time anyway.

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Well the photos are very are artistic. Wonderful. But will people look at them and think about women's rights and art? Women will look at them and think "Her ti*s are too small/big" or "She has an eating disorder" while men will think "Yeah, I'd do that" So she has achieved exactly what?

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I like her but I just wish she was a bit bustier.

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Well, she's not the little girl from the Harry Potter series anymore.

Nah, she still looks it, lol

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She`s more of a female chauvinist than a feminist.

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Why aren't those critics saying anything about Niki Minaj betraying her feminism by sitting in the audience of a Paris fashion show with one breast completely exposed (except for a pasty)? Let Emma show what body parts she wants! I'm actually looking forward to her Beauty and the Beast reboot.

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