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Gene Hennigh
With out knowing what the content of Mr. Stewart's show entails, it's rather difficult to know why he is being censored. If he criticizes AI, for instance, many of us worry about its unrestricted and growing use. One can only guess that he has something negative to say about China, but the content, without knowing what it is, could be superfluous or innocuous enough not to be taken too seriously. After all, Stewart became famous for The Daily Show's banter about the news. No offense was intended, only humorous (and often hilarious) "reporting" was used. But Apple TV+ doesn't give us any clues about what is so bad about Stewart's presentation. I doubt it was not serious enough to take such drastic action.
Peter Neil
Stewart is far more direct and uncompromising about telling the truth now than on The Daily Show. He hits hard with facts.
You can bet he said some truths that Apple does want people to hear. Money is more important than the truth.
Peter Neil
does not want...
dagon
More likely criticism of China as that is a third rail for many multinationals. They will edit and memory hole content for the China market but Jon has shown to be stubborn in his beliefs .
Major kudos for exposing blowhards like Tucker Carlson who pretend to be masters of debate.
https://www.thewrap.com/tucker-carlson-is-clearly-still-mad-about-the-time-jon-stewart-humiliated-him-on-cnn-video/
Apple has not been at the forefront of generative LLM (Siri?) and it is doubtful Stewart would have been cancelled over AI skepticism.
Apple is good at making milquetoast liberal gestures but in the end shareholder value is their God.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/18/foxconn-life-death-forbidden-city-longhua-suicide-apple-iphone-brian-merchant-one-device-extract
koiwaicoffee
Jon Stewart is too much straight about facts for Apple to handle it.
JeffLee
Apple's love for China's communists is deep, devoted and intense. Remember when they said China was the only country in the world capable of building its products?
Ricky Gervais was spot-on prescient at the Golden Globe Awards in 20202, when he humiliated Tim Cook in the audience by noting its slave shops in China and that Hollywood actors would be on the phone to their agent if ISIS launched a new streaming service.
桜川雪
So maybe the US govt should cancel govt contracts with Apple and them and US businesses can discourage use.
sunfunbun
Jon Stewart is the voice of reason and truth.
Apple should have known what it was getting. Very hypocritical, but then, when has a big money interest actually cared about the truth?
I’m disappointed in a very conservative and stifling action by Apple.
Stamp out the truth? Ain’t gonna happen with Jon Stewart.
Express sister
Good for him.
stormcrow
Jon Stewart says it like it is, truth to power.
We need more Jon Stewarts.
bass4funk
Well, we can now see where Apple’s loyalty lies is glued to, and it’s not Stewart’s.
Strangerland
Apple needs to get out of China and stop pandering to the CCP. I know they’ve already started, but they should accelerate it.
JJ W
Odd take. Businessmen don't "love communists," they love money and big markets. And the part about "capable" refers to having a developed enough supply chain that is also cheap.
Apple has begun shifting production more towards India, a country that is decidedly not communist.
Strangerland
China is not communist.
Redemption
Go to Sirius like Howard Stern, get away from the censors.
runner3
If anyone in the US that should be president it's Jon Stewart!
ClippetyClop
I remember fondly when he absolutely humiliated Tucker. The toucan never wore a bowtie again.
JRO
China Is as much communist as the Democratic republic of north korea is a democracy. It's a capitalistic authoritarian dictatorship, a lot of money to be made and cheap workforce to be used if you are allowed to. Now when China isn't as reliant on western companies and can demand more, western companies wants to move elsewhere, but big portions of these companies have already been bought up by interests that needs to stay loyal to the CCP.
asusa tabi
the china-gov has degenerated into something worse than communist. and apple will take sides with its money, even it it means going against a USA citizen in favor of china-gov
Toblerone
China is not communist.
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Strangerland
Which part of that are you having a problem with?
quercetum
What that means is that Chinese banks continue to extend their dominance as the world’s largest lenders. Four of the top five richest banks in the world are Chinese banks.
There’s no way a Communist country can achieve that. So China is not Communist. China is only Communist when their economy is about to collapse.
Seriously, it’s not really the system; it’s more what you do. China will do what they do, succeed, no matter what the system is. Let’s take a look at the UK and China.
The UK colonized many nations to procure the raw materials to fuel its empire worldwide.
They enjoyed 80% of the cream and barely gave 20% to the colonized nations, of which 15% was taken back. See taxes and protection and payment for British Troops.
China’s Belt Road Initiative is a modified version of the same model UK used to do but a more egalitarian and fairer economic sharing platform.
China gets raw materials worldwide through the BRI to fuel its mammoth economy and production machine. It does the dirty work burning Australian coal for electricity to run its factories to produce goods the world demands.
However instead of the unfair British division, China enjoys maybe 60% of the cream and ensures 40% to the BRI nations of which maybe 20% is taken back; see Infrastructure projects, power projects and so on.
Compare this to Britain who gave only 5% of the cream to the colonies. China gives 20%. While Britain paid most of the cream to fat cat kings and princes in India for example, China spends a lot on building schools, roads, bridges, ports, high speed railways and so on. Corpulent cats in one. Public projects and infrastructure in the other.
Plus China also uses BRI Countries to outsource its low grade manufacturing. Some of you just last year showed your antiquated thinking when you described China as producers of Walmart toys. China is not the China of the 1980’s. They outsource to African countries for example, who are the old Chinas that you have in your mind.
So BRI is essentially a ‘You help me fuel my industrial base and I help you grow' mode of economics. China is creative with its economic leverage to produce a positive. The West has you believing it’s the political system and philosophy but it’s control, creativity, industriousness and leverage.
The CPC’s BRI is not a Utopian Charity. It is a business arrangement where the CPC win big time with supplies, raw materials, chance to invest their money to prevent accumulation and gain soft power.
Yet the BRI nations in return get money from sales of goods plus modernization at minimum cost It’s the best deal for BRI nations today if they want to grow. The two sides ink deals, shake hands and the West cries debt trap!
The best example is Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam which have all seen a compound annual growth rate of around 12.2% a year with the BRI over the past 10 year. 26 out of 50 African Nations show a CAGR of 6% or more with BRI.
The government of China has achieved is achieving great things. It literally builds instead of bombs. It is undoing the past in Africa and building for the future. Whether or not it is Communist is irrelevant.
Strangerland
And they’ve only had to sell the organs of their citizens on the black market to achieve it.
quercetum
2017 Tim Cook:
The number one reason why we like to be in China is the people. China has extraordinary skills. And the part that's the most unknown is there's almost two million application developers in China that write apps for the iOS App Store. These are some of the most innovative mobile apps in the world, and the entrepreneurs that run them are some of the most inspiring and entrepreneurial in the world. Those are sold not only here but exported around the world.
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China has moved into very advanced manufacturing, so you find in China the intersection of craftsman kind of skill, and sophisticated robotics and the computer science world. That intersection, which is very rare to find anywhere, that kind of skill, is very important to our business because of the precision and quality level that we like. The thing that most people focus on if they're a foreigner coming to China is the size of the market, and obviously it's the biggest market in the world in so many areas. But for us, the number one attraction is the quality of the people.
Speed
Apple, along with Hollywood, keeps kissing China's butt. Grow a pair.
quercetum
Spot on about supply and that the price of supply has to be competitive. In order for supply to be cheap and to remain cheap, it has to be able to be manipulated. It has to be manipulatable.
That said, Apple has already run into problems with India and the problem with India is the reason(s) that the Foxconn deal didn’t go through.
China adopts a strategy that is not exactly Socialist Price Fixing but more of a Price Control.
Take food for example, China has in place a market mechanism for prices to rise and fall, a sort of a farm futures index.
China also engages in buying 44%-77% of all the grain produced and pork produced and all other agriculture products produced in China, minus a few products like fruits or pears or shrimp etc.
They pay according to the market index. Then when and if prices rise higher, they release food items from their storage and increase supply. This automatically lowers prices to acceptable levels.
This is because China has a storage capacity of 33 months for grain at a 3.28% wastage. This is astounding for a Country that in 2007 had a 11 month storage capacity with 18% wastage.
Now this is technically against Economic Law but Adam Smiths Free Market didn't include manipulations.
In the West, Agro Futures and Prices are pretty much capitalist controlled and can surge and fall in a way controlled by cartels. It's worse in Africa .
A government should practice staunch capitalism and free market as long as the market is dictated by pure demand and pure supply and not by cartels.
Education, food, health and transport are excluded from pure capitalism and treated as public services.
Only 17 Nations practice the above including China, the Gulf Cooperate Council and the Scandinavian countries.
runner3
Apple doesn't want free speech, especially when it comes to them.
bass4funk
A one-party state, single-party state, one-party system or single-party system is a governance structure in which only a single controls the ruling system.
What now is that single party ruling system? The “CCP” What does that stand for?
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), is the founding and of the (PRC).
Keepyer Internetpoints
Apple is not the only one that needs to grow a pair over defending free speech.
This is the sort of action that should see a mass exodus away from Apple.
So who will drop their iPhones and get an Android? Make their next computer anything but an Apple product?
The public has had many opportunities to grow a pair regarding free speech. There have been many opportunities to show companies like Apple the way. But what has happened is that the public has only shown Apple that they may as well take the easy path, because time after time, the public proves it only cares enough about free speech to bellyache and nothing more.
Keepyer Internetpoints
Apple and China are not the only ones who hate free speech are they mod?
Delete. Delete. Delete.
You irresponsible free speech hating scum.
Delete. Delete. Delete.
Do it.
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The only weapon you have to force your biases on us all.
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Imaging having the brainpower to try and win the battle of words with words of your own instead of leaning hard on the delete button.
Loser.
yipyip
Bad memory because Tucker still wore bowties after the interview.
theFu
Apple just wants China's money and cheap labor. They are willing to do nearly anything to keep that position. Giving money to Apple has supported repressive govts before and will continue, until we get Apple thrown out of all of those places. It is a duty. Thank you Jon.