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Bill Murray says his behavior led to complaint, film's pause

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No way to know what really happened. I'm inclined to give everyone the benefit of belief they weren't trying to harm someone else.

Being funny isn't easy, especially as the ideas for what is accepted have massively changed in the last few years. The change isn't bad. It is necessary, but for people who like to joke, there are many difficulties.

I cringe at some of my jokes from 10, 20, 30 yrs ago. They weren't meant to be harmful or make anyone uncomfortable, but I suspect they did. I also remember some friends using me as the target for some excellent jokes that were definitely very funny. Not everyone has the same thick skin, however.

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The World views Bill Murray as the guy(himself) he played in Zombieland. One would think he was funny and easy-going. He has a history though of being hard to work with and can be mean.

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“It’s been quite an education for me,” he said. “The world is different than it was when I was a little kid. What I always thought was funny as a little kid isn’t necessarily the same as what’s funny now. Things change and the times change so it’s important for me to figure it out.”

Murray added: “I think it’s a sad dog that can’t learn anymore. I don’t want to be that sad dog and I have no intention of it.”

He's right. That's big of him to admit that instead of making excuses.

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This should come to a surprise from no one.

He’s made some of the greatest tv moments and movies of all time, but he’s also always been a notable jerk behind the scenes.

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The Bill Murray declarations seems quite rational and he accepts guilt, I hope this is just a limited incident that was made huge because of an excess of precaution and can be happily solved without anybody keeping any kind of resentment.

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The world has indeed changed a lot over the last few decades.

Some types of humor (and some "targets" of said humor) were dropped and some will most certainly won't be missed. Heck, there were even films and stand-up comedians milking some types of humor I never liked to start with. TBH, not necessarily because I deemed the humor "inappropriate" back then, but because they were literally milking it again and again and again to a point of extreme irritation, but yeah, they were popular with the crowds. Society's tastes or appreciation of these things changed, these types of humor died off.

But I also feel that society as a whole has its skin grow thinner over time. Looking at older movies and laughing (as much as I did in the past if it is a movie I know), I can't prevent myself from wondering: would this still be ok today? and actually not be sure...

French stand-up comedian Pierre Desproges in 1984 said in an interview: One can laugh about anything and everything but not necessarily with anybody and everybody. This was definitely true in 1984 and, I believe, still is.

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I cringe at some of my jokes from 10, 20, 30 yrs ago. They weren't meant to be harmful or make anyone uncomfortable, but I suspect they did. I also remember some friends using me as the target for some excellent jokes that were definitely very funny. Not everyone has the same thick skin, however.

Part of the scenario is just ignorance or not knowing. When you're a kid, you often laugh at juvenile jokes - some about people 'different' from you so you can feel 'macho', 'cool' and 'with it'. Then as you get older and 'experienced'/enlightened in life, you mature. Then some of the things you thought were funny when you were 10, 20, 30, 40 ain't so 'funny'. It's not just a cultural 'thing', it's a part of YOU growing up.

As a child I made idiotic jokes about people of 'strange' cultures, languages, religions, races, sex, etc. because I wasn't cultured, and I wasn't taught entirely by the right people (there are a few shining examples I'd like to thank if they were still alive).

There's a Biblical verse that says, 'As I grew older, I put away those childish things'. Some things that were 'funny' when I was 17 aren't now. And this isn't the 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s anymore either.

Sad to say, there are some individuals who never mature at all. At least Bill Murray is or is open for it.

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He kind of accepts that he is guilty....but of what exactly?

No way of knowing what happened? Why?

Wokeness gone crazy.

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I'm on Bill's side no matter what.

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He's a comedian and the woman should understand that.

I respect the fact that his appology was sincer and mature.

Bill understands the women was overly sensitive and her hormones needed more attention.

Just a mini scandal.

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He has a history though of being hard to work with and can be mean.

Isn't that a core and necessary characteristic of ANY professional comedian? 'Kindness' is rarely considered 'funny' in our world...

Bill understands the women was overly sensitive and her hormones needed more attention.

And there you have a perfect example of this issue...

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The mind boggles, what he could have said.

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Actually? The stuff men always thought was funny was never funny to us. Women just didn’t say anything back then, but now feel more able to speak up. Learning that at 71 is better than never, but guys - you can do better.

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blueMay 2  10:28 am JST

But I also feel that society as a whole has its skin grow thinner over time.

Two things.

One: Those who were the butt of that “humour” never thought it was funny. And now that they’re getting more power in society, and are more able to speak out, they’re no longer tolerating it.

Two: Yes - over time when you have been the butt of such “humour” over and over, being forced by politeness’ sake to put up with it, your skin does start to get thinner.

When I was younger and guys made sexist jokes, I gritted my teeth, got red a thin smile, and said nothing. Now I tell them that it’s sexist.

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People are just too sensitive these days.

A movie set with a comedian is not a safe space.

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