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Cancel culture takes the fun out of life, says comedian John Cleese

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What exactly is "cancel culture". Can someone give a brief definition?

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Cancel culture "misunderstands the main purposes of life which is to have fun," 

100 percento!

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He's going strong for an 80 year old and still has a wicked sense of humor

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Gokai start here

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cancel%20culture

Cleese....go man GO!!

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Cancel culture is the troll within so many people having a wonderful time ruining things for others. You made an unpopular tweet? Haha! You lost your job, then your wife too and kids are now poor and fatherless! You used an old word for "ghosts" to refer to students you never saw cause they never came to class? Haha! We will call it a racial slur since it turns out they are black and take away your tenure and destroy your reputation. You had a consensual affair? Haha! We will call it an abuse of power and force you to resign. You are a statue or flag or TV show that exists for numerous reasons? Haha! We will focus on just one thing about you we don't like and destroy you, ban you and scorn anyone who disagrees or brings up any of the other facts outside of our hate focus. You did your job being overly dramatic on a "reality" show? Haha! We will drive you to suicide with cruel internet posts and cancel you from life itself.

Cleese is totally right. And I see a ton of people here also doing exactly what he is talking about and frankly they make me sick with their working over-time trying to find ways to take offense at anything they can get their grubby little hands on. Then you have the people who cannot see that and support them doing it.

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Cancel culture is just the other side of the unbending, I compassionate, hard-like extremism of the right. It’s arisen as a direct opposition to the right wing extremists who have been trying to redirect the world to even further oppression of minorities.

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I blame the algorithms reinforcing and amplifying our brains' existing fears and biases

"This idea of purity and you're never compromised and you're politically woke, and all that stuff -- you should get over that quickly. The world is messy. There are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws."

Barack Obama

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@Mickelicicious

Nice quote. Spot on. Obama is a smart man in many ways.

The ultimate goal of cancel culture is for people who don’t toe the party line to lose their livelihoods and serve as an example to others. Its roots are in envy and bitterness.

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And guilt. Don’t forget guilt.

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Cancel culture pretty much translates to "I am too lazy to deal with other opinions or any social and historical context, which oposes my own world view, so please shut up and leave me alone."

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“The problem with political correctness, he added, is that comedians "have to set the bar according to what we are told by the most touchy, most emotionally unstable and fragile and least stoic people in the country."

Thankyou, John Cleese. A man not afraid to tell the truth.

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@Strangerland,Cancel culture is just the other side of the unbending, I compassionate, hard-like extremism of the right. It’s arisen as a direct opposition to the right wing extremists who have been trying to redirect the world to even further oppression of minorities who have been trying to redirect the world to even further oppression of minorities.

You make Johnn Cleese’s point perfectly.

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@VanessaCarlisle,Cleese is totally right. And I see a ton of people here also doing exactly what he is talking about and frankly they make me sick with their working over-time trying to find ways to take offense at anything they can get their grubby little hands on. Then you have the people who cannot see that and support them doing it.

Exactly.

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I'm a minority and I don't need guilty (insert race here) people to right perceived wrongs for me. Personally, if race is your go to answer for a problem then that tells me that person is the racist because they need race as a crutch to feel morally superior. The only way to turn the narrative on them is with facts and not emotions.

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"Everything humorous is critical. If you have someone who is perfectly kind and intelligent and flexible and who always behaves appropriately, they're not funny. Funniness is about people who don't do that, like Trump," he said, referring to the U.S. president.

The problem with political correctness, he added, is that comedians "have to set the bar according to what we are told by the most touchy, most emotionally unstable and fragile and least stoic people in the country."

This is the most intelligent and insightful story I have read in a long time. I guess age really does bring wisdom for some of us.

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At least he won't have to put up with it for much longer.

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At least he won't have to put up with it for much longer.

I don’t see an end to the cancel culture. Unless people fight back and demand it to stop it will continue.

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Contributing to the pc cancel culturers problem is they are almost all lacking a sense of humour. They cant really understand humour, they live straight jacket lives with everything categorized into good and not good. “Funny” and not funny.

Theyre the last people who should be regulating humour and yet here we are!

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To me "Cancel Culture" is connected to being politically correct.

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To me "Cancel Culture" is connected to being politically correct.

You are correct. The humourless, “emotionally unstable, fragile” pc brigade that Cleese refers to want to regulate us all to fit their nightmaringly dull and controlled vision of how life should be for everyone.

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Cancel culture results from an intolerant minority being noisy enough to be confused as something important. This lengthy article explains how a small group of people can make the majority acquiesce:

https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15#.z5ry4bucq

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Cancel culture is just the other side of the unbending, I compassionate, hard-like extremism of the right. It’s arisen as a direct opposition to the right wing extremists 

That's just a wordier version of the wife-beater's excuse, "You made me do it!"

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We must also remember that cancel culture strongly exists in the deletion of internet accounts and postings. There is an epidemic of cancel culture in internet "moderation" including trouble over using the Spanish word for "black" or the Polish word for a "Polish male". Why did I not just use the words? Concern over being "cancelled" that's why.

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source: https://www.dictionary.com/e/pop-culture/cancel-culture/

WHAT DOES CANCEL CULTURE MEAN?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming.

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The problem with political correctness, he added, is that comedians "have to set the bar according to what we are told by the most touchy, most emotionally unstable and fragile and least stoic people in the country."

The professionally outraged getting offended on other people’s behalf are a real problem.

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"Cancel culture" may be a new term, but it has ancient roots extending as far back as the dawn of "civilization" itself when class, caste, money and power began to generate a myriad "cancel cultures". All the "-isms" of social systems operate on CC. As far as political correctness is concerned, the old Japanese adage, 寄らば大樹の影 (shelter under a big tree = serve the powerful if you know what's good for you) succinctly encapsulates its essence, which all goes to show that, as many people are wont to opine, there is nothing new under the sun.

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Cancel culture. Does make you think. You often wonder about where and how those doing the cancelling found their sense of entitlement and authority? Also how in a single generation things got so uptight and humorless. The new thought police , as far as we can see can’t actually do much themselves apart from shutting down and demanding others do so on cue the minute things get uncomfortable.

Wasn’t one of the main reasons we communicate, comment on sites like this or share opinions to give yourself the best chance to be proved wrong? For the love of the debate. The hierarchy of ideas, not people! Cancel culture only sees power or the lack there of. Two dimensional, low resolution. Boring.

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