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By ROB MAADDI©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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kokoro7
Darn! And I liked Disney, though I don't watch sports very much. Well, not going to buy anything Disney, now.
Vernon Watts
What? He was a third-string quarterback who needed a haircut...
u_s__reamer
Colin Kaepernick should be congratulated and thanked for his exemplary display of civic courage and conscience and celebrated as an outstanding model citizen who showed us the meaning of "decency" in an indecent world of hate and violence.
Mocheake
You must not be a real football fan. I do believe Kap STARTED several seasons and in a SUPER BOWL. Some people just want to hate someone whose ideas they disagree with.
Career NFL statistics
TD–INT:
72–30
Passing yards:
12,271
Completion percentage:
59.8
Passer rating:
88.9
Rushing yards:
2,300
Rushing touchdowns:
13
Better than some of the overpaid guys starting now.
Ego Sum Lux Mundi
One of the most irritating people ever.
lostrune2
In representation. In practice, it's not liberty and justice for all. That's why people are protesting in the first place
The why/practice is more important than the representation - that should be kept in mind
extanker
Maybe if he showed up to the scheduled workout instead of thinking he was important enough to change it to his own location so he could turn it into a media circus, he might have received some calls. Who wants to pay millions for a mediocre player with skills that are far outmatched by his ego?
starpunk
He is a hero, a champion who risked his career to stand up to a hypocritical nation and society. He has always kept his stance on his position, never backed down.
Our excuse for a POTUS hugs the stars and stripes and rubs them on his face like a dishcloth. And he lips off about the people who died for it. And ' liberty and justice for all?' That's a LIE that they tell you in school. Taking a knee and bowing is more respectful to American principals than anything Trump has ever done.
extanker
He's also another thing that starts with an 'H', a hypocrite. I didn't see him standing up to Nike for using sweatshops and cheap overseas labor to make the shoes he was endorsing. As long as the check cashed, right?
ohara
The Bob Geldorf of the NFL. Like Bob, he realized he didnt have what it takes to sustain a career in his field - so he went for the big bucks pedalling bs to the easily fooled (there are many).
ohara
He's also another thing that starts with an 'H', a hypocrite. I didn't see him standing up to Nike for using sweatshops and cheap overseas labor to make the shoes he was endorsing. As long as the check cashed, right?
Thats for sure.
ohara
Any explaination from his fanboys re his Nike hypocrisy?
lostrune2
Do people assume that because one stands up for a cause, that it's one's responsibility to stand up for every cause
ohara
lostrune, thats pretty shabby.
extanker
@lostrune
A popular slogan among the anti-racist movement is 'silence is oppression', so yes he absolutely does have an obligation to stand up for a cause directly related to a company that he is cashing very large checks from. To do otherwise makes him complicit.
lostrune2
But that slogan doesn't mean it all falls for one man - it falls for all mankind, meaning if this is your cause, don't be silent. But people have different causes, so your cause may not be your (person #2) cause, or your (person #3) cause, or your cause (person #4) cause, etc. It just means that if it's your cause, don't be silent about it - but it's up to whichever person whose cause it is
(Maybe it's not his scene, or it's not something he has researched since he's been busy with his own troubles, etc.)
extanker
@lostrune
I hate to tell you this, but you couldn’t be more wrong. That is not at all what that saying means.
It means that if you don’t speak up against any wrongdoing, then you are supporting it. You don’t get to pick and choose what you want to fight for. If it’s wrong, it’s your obligation to speak up. If you don’t protest it, you are for it. It goes for anything.
Kaepernick not speaking out against Nike makes him complicit in their wrongdoings according to his own movement.
ohara
lostrune, thats pathetic.
lostrune2
(Really one-liners, ohara, lol)
Anyways, nobody has the time nor the means to research against every single thing that's wrong in the world. (If one speaks up without doing some research, that's a recipe for disaster with one is just speaking out of his/her butt.) That's just an impossibility. Do ya speak up against everything that's wrong? Can ya protest everything that's happening in the US, for instance? Nobody can.
Heck that's an example: I don't fault the Hong Kong pro-democracy activists for not speaking up with what's happening in the US. In fact, while they welcome the support from the US, despite that the US has its own problems of oppressing minorities. So does that make the HK activists hypocrites for accepting support from the US, despite that the US has its own oppression problems? No, of course not. The HK activists have their own cause they're busy with, and the US is not really their scene. Nobody can speak up against all everyone else's issues. I don't expect you nor anyone to be able to carry that.
ohara
Oh dear. This is very sad, lostrune.
lostrune2
On the debate teams, people laugh when somebody throws one-liners since that's when they know there's nothing behind the words, lol
ohara
lostrune, Kapaerniks a hypocrite of the worst kind.
extanker
@lostrune
Dude please. You’re just making excuses for Kaepernick now and sounding clueless.
Nike using cheap sweatshop labor is common knowledge. Kaepernick didn’t have to research it. I didn’t, it’s in the news.
Kaepernick gets paid millions by Nike, he is directly involved in the situation. it is his ‘scene’ by association. So Basically what you are sayIng is if I worked for a totally racist company, but was too busy to do anything about it or they’re only racist overseas, then it’s ok for me to keep working there.
Seems to me that you’re part of the problem.
lostrune2
@extanker
I'm being realistic. Just don't expect people to be on cause for everything just because they're on cause for something.
Nike has paid a lot of people a lot of money, even when everybody knew about the sweatshops all these years. For example, NFL star JJ Watt and NBA stars Karl Malone and Charles Barkley, who are ardent pro-gun cause supporters. That's their cause and that's fine, but people didn't call for them to boycott Nike while they were doing its huge endorsements.
(Any big enough company nowadays has done wrong somewhere, while paying a lot of people. If you've ever worked for a big company, ya may find yourself being paid too. Now, I'm not saying ya shouldn't do something about it - just that I don't expect everybody who has a cause to take on that cause too, when they already have their own causes to deal with.)
And once again, the US itself has its problems, but don't fault protestors who welcome US support, fighting against oppression while the US has been doing its own oppressing. Nobody can be a hero to every cause.
extanker
Oh my god. Kaepernick is protesting against oppression of black people, all the while ignoring the oppression of other minorities by Nike, the very company that he receives millions of dollars from.
It can’t get any more clear than that, there is no excuse for Kaepernick’s hypocrisy, no matter how hard you try to claim otherwise. I’m done.
lostrune2
Let's go with your train of thought then. You can call Kaep a hypocrite, but then you can't stop there. Do you think Kaep is the only one that Nike pays a lot? Heck, do you think Nike is the only one with sweatshops? Adidas? Puma? Reebok? Under Armour? Etc. Each of them pays their own lots of athletes, many of whom have their causes. We gonna end up with a very long list. Are we gonna call out each and every one of them for their hypocrisy? Are we gonna do this in every sports article? Where does it end?
And how about outside of sports. Once again, let's use the HK pro-democracy protestors - they're protesting against oppression by Beijing, all the while ignoring the oppression of minorities by the US - the very US that they're asking for and receiving support. Why are the HK protestors protesting against Beijing while accepting US support, but not protesting with the minorities against US oppression? Shall we point out this hypocrisy every time we talk about HK pro-democracy protestors?
The simple answer to this is that most people don't necessarily have the time nor resources to protest outside their own causes that they're already dealing with. Those HK protestors already have it up to their necks dealing with Beijing - they don't have the time nor resources to protest with the minority movements in the US. Those athletes with their own causes --fight against oppression, poverty, cancer, etc.-- (not to mention playing the damn sport itself) they don't have time nor resources to fight another front.
It'd be good if they do have the time and resources to fight another front. That's actually for the better. But it's not to be expected - it's just not realistic to expect it as the norm. People already have it up to their necks dealing with their own causes.
Or we can just point out the hypocrisy every time there's an article about any people. Anybody wanna keep a running list? Expectations
extanker
And this is where you lose the argument. It is his cause. He is protesting oppression of a race of people while the company he endorses is oppressing a race of people. He. Is. A. Hypocrite. There is no explaining it away. He can't argue that his people are oppressed, all the while saying Nike is great while they oppress minorities to make their sneakers that Kaepernick is selling. And the nonsense about being too busy to protest Nike? What nonsense is that? All he has to do is say to Nike 'I quit'. How busy do you have to be to say goodbye to someone? but why would he? He's making millions off of them.
You keep dancing around the argument and repeating the same nonsense excuses but at the end of the day, you just don't get it.
extanker
Oh and the whole HK protester argument is complete nonsense. Last time I checked, Nike isn't offering protesters shoe endorsements... Kaepernick actively endorsed Nike while they were guilty of the same thing he is protesting against. If you don't understand the difference, then you really just don't get it.