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'Queer Eye' mini-series takes detour to Japan

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I look forward to watching this, when I figure out where to get it. I enjoyed the original Queer Eye, and it is great to see an update, just as with "Will & Grace", to see how far US television has come.

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I'm curious, but western TV doesn't have the best track record of handling Japan. I hope the "heroes" are relatively normal Japanese and not the 'quirky' stereotypes that usually get trotted out (super-otakus, idol fanboys, kawaii-obsessed airhead girls, etc.)

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@Maria,

Netflix.

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netflix has done a horrible job of promoting this in japan. it was released a few weeks ago with no fanfare. my wife saw it by accident last week. the 2 episodes we saw were so so. like they said above, japanese people aren't as expressive as 'muricans.

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Watched the first ep, it's the usual mix of tears and elation - except for the location. The lady in the episode was marvelous and damn it, if I didn't have to wipe a bit of grit out of my eye.

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I'm curious, but western TV doesn't have the best track record of handling Japan. 

Kelly Osborne and Justin Lee Collin's series being classic examples of this. Both efforts were cringeworthy and lazy.

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Should be enjoyable, watched a few episodes of.the original.

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@RiskyMosaic: yes, thank you, that is explained in the article. I am not going to sign up to Netflix just to see this. Hopefully it'll appear on YT or dailymotion or somewhere like that.

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Maria,

Two words: Free. Trial.

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Pass. Why change for the Japanese market. Should be the same or call it a different show.

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Any lifestyle that rejects this only hinders its members.

And yet, gay people continue to be born...miraculous!

Lol

I watched the original, and it was okay. It didn't inhibit my procreative abilities.

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Rolf, I’m sorry you had to go through conversion therapy! But well! Look at you now! You’re here and alive, talking to people about what is natural and what is not.

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I binged the Japan mini series in one night and my face was so swollen the next day because of how much I cried. Especially for episode 2 and 3, with the young man and woman who were so full of self loathing because of the pressure from people around them.

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and no, it is not formidable. Not all gay people are hipsters who only care about appearance.

Some gay people like math, computer science, art, literature and so on.

What Queer Eye offers is a cheap, pret-a-porter face of homosexuality.

Insulting at best.

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Nature and reason inform us that we are all oriented toward a reproductive coupling in a monogamous lifetime relationship. 

Nature and reason inform us nothing of the sort.

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I don't usually like "reality TV," but my wife and I have been watching this show regularly and enjoying it, starting with the previous seasons.

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 I am not going to sign up to Netflix just to see this. Hopefully it'll appear on YT or dailymotion or somewhere like that.

It's 1000 yen a month (less than one movie), and you can cancel anytime. If they can't get 1000 yen for all that content, how do you expect them to make any profit and continue producing the shows you love?

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I loved the original cast. Indeed, they were "OTT" caricatures, but genuine in intent towards the straight guy they eere helping.

The new cast I find totally annoying, especially the bearded drag queen who I feel like punching in the head, and I am gay!

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And yet, gay people continue to be born

Except that … we don't know that. Being born gay is a myth that was deliberately created to gain rights. You can find more about that by looking up Marshall Kirk, Hunter Madsen and the 'born gay hoax'.

The official position of the APA (which is actually very supportive of homosexuality) is that "There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."

A study this year, conducted by Christine Kaestle (Sexual orientation trajectories based on sexual attractions, partners, and identity), has indicated that a sexual orientation can change until late in the 20s. "The study, which analyzed surveys from around 12,000 students, found that substantial changes in attractions, partners and sexual identity are common from late adolescence to the early 20s, as well as from the early 20s to the late 20s. This indicates that the development of sexual orientation continues long past adolescence into adulthood."

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Except that … we don't know that. Being born gay is a myth that was deliberately created to gain rights. You can find more about that by looking up Marshall Kirk, Hunter Madsen and the 'born gay hoax'.

Did you not read the last line of your quote:

most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation

The whole point about being born that way, is that they are that way not by choice. Which is exactly what your quote pointed out.

Maybe it's not birth - maybe it's a chemical in the air. What would that matter? It wouldn't change that being gay is that way because that's the way they are. Expecting them to stop being gay because you don't like it, is expecting them to be something they aren't.

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Sometimes these shows are fun, light, entertainment. Good for a 10 min watch while waiting for "someone" to finish getting ready. Often something about style worth learning is conveyed, regardless of your personal situation. It is mostly entertainment, just like news.

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Maybe it's not birth - maybe it's a chemical in the air. What would that matter?

We are born as a heterosexual species because of our genitals. The only way to put homosexuality on the same level as heterosexuality is by pretending that we can be as much conditioned by homosexuality as by heterosexuality (meaning that we are born that way). That's how the gay movement became a movement about gaining equality.

When homosexuality is caused by a chemical in the air, it's obviously not as much part of our identity as heterosexuality, because chemicals in the air are not part of our physical anatomy.

The whole point about being born that way, is that they are that way not by choice. Expecting them to stop being gay because you don't like it, is expecting them to be something they aren't.

Our feelings are never a choice and for sure we can't simply expect people to stop having feelings, but we do have a choice about what we do with those feelings. When I feel jealous, I didn't choose to feel that way and people can't expect me to stop feeling jealous, but I have a choice about what I do with those feelings. If I am angry about something at my job, people can still expect me to act without showing my anger towards the customers. We are not like animals who only know how to act based on impulses.

There's a long list of (weird) forms of sexual behavior or fantasies (paraphilia) and as they are all about erotical sensations, nobody chooses any of them. And while we can't force people to not have such feelings, we can still expect them to not promote them in public, to not introduce them in the education system, to not claim that people are suffering from some kind of phobia for feeling aversion (this is also something we don't chose) towards some form of sexuality.

The reason homosexuality is treated differently from all the paraphilia is because of the idea that we are born that way. For sure pedophiles, sadomasochists, nymphomaniacs etc didn't choose to be that way, but have you heard a lot about them being born that way? If we would claim that pedophiles are born that way, then suddenly the whole 'born this way' argument would lose all of its meaning for accepting homosexuality. And similarly, whether or not it's a choice, doesn't matter. What matters is which meaning something has. Feelings can be interpreted in multiple ways. Understanding yourself can be quite complex. We are being influenced by theories and examples from others and maybe we never heard about the correct interpretation of our feelings.

Nowadays LGBT is simply an ideology focused on normalising homosexuality and gender confusion that is being pushed into every corner of society wherever possible. This doesn't help anyone.

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