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In success for 'Captain Marvel,' a defeat for trolls

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Those skrulls get everywhere !

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I remember all the girls reading comic books when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s. They all thought comic books were cool and not dorky at all.

 Larson later said she, after noticing that critics reviewing movies "appeared to be overwhelmingly white male" decided to make her press interviews "more inclusive."

The majority of critics about a comic book movie were white male? Imagine my shock! I wonder what the demographics of a rap concert in Harlem look like?

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Im the myriad of said trolls, there's a few sound voices that simply find her role unappealing. Complaining about make believe characters is as common as sand on the beach. We all recall the comments when gal was announced to play wonder woman. She had the last laugh though without ever singling out any race. Some might find it depressingly hard to fathom but Larson as Captain marvel was a horrendous casting decision. And of course I'll let time and the wallet vindicate that.

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I'm going tonight. Very excited about to finally see it!

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And the avenues for manipulating audience perception are dwindling. YouTube, where anti-Larson videos proliferated ahead of the film's opening, chose to categorize "Brie Larson" as a news search, not a general one.

Clever move. Trolls will have to find other ways to spread the hate.

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I bet a large amount of the trolls have gone to see it anyway

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Rottentomatoes.com is owned by Fandango. Fandango's president is a former Disney exec. Disney made Captain Marvel. Conflict of interest much? Don't go to Rottentomatoes for review scores. They got caught deleting over 50,000 negative reviews for Capt Marvel, and posting cut-n-paste bot positive reviews. Alita: Battle Angel (Capt Marvel's rival at the box-office) has a Tomatometer score of 64% ,but an Audience Score of 94%. Hmm.. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fandango-hires-disney-executive-paul-yanover-375377

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Did Disney buy Capt Marvel movie tickets to boost ticket sales? Theater managers seeing an insane amount of no-show ticket buyers. https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/03/13/new-reports-of-empty-theaters-at-captain-marvel-add-to-movies-controversy/

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Dana Benson, a representative for the Fandango-owned Rotten Tomatoes, said the site is exploring more adjustments to prevent the gaming of its audience scores including a "verified purchase" component to reviews, similar to Amazon's system, so to audience reviews come from those who have seen the movie.

Rottentomatoes is accusing others of doing what they routinely do.

For evidence of review tampering in favor of Capt Marvel at Rottentomatoes.com search on Youtube.. SEARCH: rotten tomatoes deletes 54000 & SEARCH: captain marvel rotten tomatoes bots

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dXN6pY2ebBE&t=15s

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I hate the manipulation all around.

There are rumors of huge amounts of no-show ticket purchases. Which, if true, is despicable.

Equally, people reviewing a movie they've never seen is BS.

Don't buy tickets just to manipulate sales. If you don't want to go see it, don't go see it, but don't post some bogus review.

As for the whole #metoo / female power thing, just make good movies. There have been awesome movies made with strong female protagonists. Not as some statement of female power, just the making of a good movie.

Will be interesting to see how Captain Marvel does this coming weekend. And how it does with the almost certain 2nd installment.

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Another boring hero movie, wearing a costume to save the day with political agendas and hidden messages behind the 'powers' get over it. Anime has more imagination

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Trump makes sexist jokes about women, get's blasted. Blasts his critics, also gets blasted.

Larson makes racist and sexist comments targeting white males, get's called a hero. Blasts her critics, gets called a victim, and her critics labeled as 'trolls'.

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Another boring hero movie, wearing a costume to save the day with political agendas and hidden messages behind the 'powers' get over it. Anime has more imagination

Have you seen it, though? What is the agenda? Is it anti-Skrull and pro-Kree, or something more nuanced?

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Toasted Heretic

I do not intend to give money to Toho Cinema for this movie, one does not need to see another hero movie, to know very well the predicatble story formulat that willl be used. Hero saves the day, political agenda, hidden messages, blah blah the end..

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the ability to vanquish trolls.

Saying this is akin to those monster movies where a character says "I think it's dead" then the monster wakes up and kills them. If trolls were so easily defeated, they wouldn't exist today. They'll troll this movie the way they troll everything else.

one does not need to see another hero movie, to know very well the predicatble story formulat that willl be used.

So true. The Superhero genre has been so extensively beaten to death that they're no longer fun, just depressingly predictable.

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I do not intend to give money to Toho Cinema for this movie, one does not need to see another hero movie, to know very well the predicatble story formulat that willl be used. Hero saves the day, political agenda, hidden messages, blah blah the end..

Ah, you haven't seen it. Did you see the last Avengers movie - the heroes didn't save the day. Not sure what the political agenda and hidden messages were. Don't rely on Hulk too much?

I liked Darkman (Liam Neeson in a Sam Raimi flick), it was just a good old fashioned revenge story meets Phantom of the Opera. Oh and Unbreakable. No messages or agendas to push. Liked the new Into the Spiderverse as well, all entertainment and amazing visuals. Most recent fave would still be Thor Raganarok. I think it was a Hulk message, too. Don't take yer mates for granted, or something equally terrifying.

In the meantime, one does not need to read another post bashing a movie that has not been seen/released etc...

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Liked the new Into the Spiderverse as well

My daughter and I loved this. I've only seen a handful of comicbook adaptations since Christopher Nolan stopped making them and Tobey McGuire went into hiding but Spiderverse rocked.

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@jcapan

It did. Real next level kind of vibe to it. Clever animation, cool storyline, soundtrack and no longueurs. Nolan's Batman was great and rescued the franchise from Joel Schumacher's lack of vision. I don't mind Affleck as Bats but the latest batch of DC output is pretty poor. Whereas Marvel (through Sony, Netflix, etc) usually deliver.

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I'd have cut the pig, Nic Cage and the Japanese girl and come in under 100 min. Two hours is a long time for me, let alone grade school viewers. Haven't seen Affleck do Batman. Just looks too ridiculous. Did watch him last night in Triple Frontier. One of those could-have-been-great films if the right person were directing.

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I saw it in the States last week and it was entertaining. Samuel L Jackson was great as were the Australian accented aliens. Interestingly the aliens were portrayed as the traditional paternalistic family with men in charge as warriors. Be aware that you are being indoctrinated and you will enjoy the movie more.

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I'd have cut the pig, Nic Cage and the Japanese girl and come in under 100 min.

Oh, nooo, they were my fave characters (aside from the main protagonists! :-)

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The only super hero movie I would respect would be the Dark Knight series directed by Inception dirctor Christopher Nolan, as he did bring a more realistic approach to a what if a hero was in a realistic world slice of life approach. And Tim Burtons Batman and Batman Returns, because that was entertaining, Iron Man and the Christopher Reeve Superman films. The other super hero films Xmen, etc are just a pile of farts really..

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The majority of critics about a comic book movie were white male? Imagine my shock! I wonder what the demographics of a rap concert in Harlem look like?

She was talking about the film "A Wrinkle in Time", which features a diverse cast of women. Which you would know if you had actually read the article.

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Did Disney buy Capt Marvel movie tickets to boost ticket sales? 

No.

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@Sneezy

There is evidence to the contrary, naysay net-sniper.

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Oh, baloney. No one saw Brie Larson before her Marvel film, and no one will see her indie female empowerment films when she's 39. Her age Everyone sees Marvel films regardless of quality, and this film is connected to endgame. Marvel brand is a success, not her agenda.

And she wasn't merely an advocate for diversity, she essentially backed quota. She essentially subscribes to the notion that it's fine to cut down the dominant class to to elevate the lower class. Basically, the rationale behind activists who demand that students should read less white authors like Shakespeare or colleges accept less Asians if it serves diversity.

The ratings for supergirl and Doctor Who suffered almost immediately after they went unbearably SJW. Star Wars film earn less money each time they come out because fans don't like the inorganic changes in the plot.

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Oh, nooo, they were my fave characters

My daughter agrees. Since watching it, whenever I tell her to turn off the TV she just blurts out You gotta problem with cartoons!?

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I saw this last Saturday, and while I did not hate the movie (parts of it were tremendous fun) I did not love it. This movie ranks with Black Panther in that I liked it when I saw it, but I cannot see myself watching it again (unless it's on BluRay in preparation for Endgame). Captain Marvel is directed by two people, and the movie feels like it. Some might point out the three MCU movies directed by the Russo brothers, but being brothers they are likely on the same wavelength most of the time.

I did not really feel a "feminist agenda" (whatever that may be). They simply portray Danvers as a strong person, not so much a strong woman. As for people going to see this, even the evil white males comic fans, I suspect many of them went hoping for some clue as to what might happen in Endgame.

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Regardless the reasons, the film is definitely not a dud (it's doing massive box office)

Those who thought it would be a dud --the film may or may not be good, people can have their opinions and that's perfectly fine-- but what's also fine is that those people definitely do not know how to tell if a movie would be a dud or be a success, lol

On that funny note, after several almost-answers, who saw it coming how Fury really lost his eye!

*"Lost my one good eye because I trusted someone I shouldn't have"*- Nick Fury, Avengers.

*"Last time I trusted someone, I lost an eye'*- Nick Fury, The Winter Soldier.

"Is it true that the Kree burned your eye out? -- I can neither confirm nor deny" -Fury, Captain Marvel

The looming threat of Nick Fury losing an eye is probably one of Captain Marvel's best running gags. Several times throughout the film, Fury gets injured or seemingly takes a hard hit, creating the expectation of a dramatic moment he nobly sacrifices an eye in battle. However, as it turns out, the myths and legends about Fury's lost eye are about as far off the mark as impressions of the man himself.

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who saw it coming how Fury really lost his eye!

I'm not quite sure how to feel about that. It's kind of lame, but then again I like the expectation subversion.

The de-aging effects keep getting better and better. Russel, Douglas, Pfeiffer, and now Jackson. Absolutely remarkable.

The score was forgettable. As for the 90s pop song they used for the final fight . . .unimaginative.

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The movie hasn't even broken even yet and people are calling it a success. That being said, it's a Marvel movie that ties in to Infinity War. Ofcourse it's going to do good.

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I just came out of the cinema to see it.

Not the best Marvel, but not a bad movie at all.

Brie Larson is great, Samuel L Jackson is great, Jude Law is great, Goose the cat is awesome.

It is not "feminist propaganda", it is not a "social justice warrior" movie, it is not anti-man/anti-white or whatever...

It is fun, entertaining, and introducing a new great character. My only grief is that I wanted to see her more in action.

I don't care what trolls or insecure nerds say, Brie Larson/Captain Marvel gained a new fan.

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There is evidence to the contrary, naysay net-sniper.

No there isn’t.

Oh, baloney. No one saw Brie Larson before her Marvel film

Brie Larson won the Oscar for best actress. Lots of people watched her in films before this.

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I like Brie Larson, off the top of my head she was great in Kong, Scott Pilgrim and 21 Jump Street and I look forward to seeing Captain Marvel.

Now, I get what she was trying to say with the '40 year old white man' comment, but she has the delivery skills of Donald Trump. She's great at phrasing her opinions to alienate people instead of change their minds.

Fortunately, I can easily separate a real life celebrity's opinion from a fictional character that they are playing. If I couldn't do that, I wouldn't have much to watch.

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@Sneezy

Refusing to ignore the evidence is not a lack of evidence. Laziness, apathy, and having a normalcy bias does not counter facts. The evidence and facts are still there regardless of your solipsistic POV.

https://digitalempire.wordpress.com/2019/03/12/fresh-fresh-hundreds-of-empty-seats-bought-out-at-captain-marvel/

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T1J, I don’t know if they taught you this in school, but a post on an anti-Semitic Wordpress blog citing one tweet does not meet the threshold of evidence.

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Captain Marvel is a wonderful film.

All the upset little boys crying about Brie Larson need to understand that citing disparity isn't racism.

That challenging the power, authority and bias of the huge majority of critics being white is not racism.

It's asking for more voices, for inclusiveness.

That standing up for minorities, for those who have been historically disenfranchised, ignored, sidelined, and made to feel alone is not some kind of "reverse racism" against whites, but trying to spread equality.

Suggesting that women, LGBT, minorities aren't "normal" is the height of conceit and discrimination.

If you don't want to see people of different races, gender, nationalities, culture, ideas, orientation, etc included in media or calling attention to the fact that they aren't included or minimized, YOU are part of the problem, YOU are a bigot.

EVERYONE should feel welcome, and when the majority of something is a single race or gender, that's not inclusive. It's biased.

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I watched it last night and i enjoyed it. I wish she had more fight scenes though.

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I watched the movie opening night. A TON of seats were empty even though it was sold out. I told my friends and the ones who also saw it opening day or saturday said the same thing. their theaters had tons of empty seats. my friends who went sunday said the theater was full. Later i saw that this was the case all across the united states. it looks like Disney bought up tickets Friday and Saturday to boost ticket sales for the positive headlines. Positive headlines will bring in tons more money long run than the amount of money they spent on the seats to buy the good press. Great marketing move by Disney

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