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Iran scoffs at Oscar-winning 'Argo'

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I wonder if they told the story of why Iranians stormed the embassy. Perhaps someone should make a movie adaptation of "All the Shah's Men" so Americans can learn the real history of how relations with Iran went sour.

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I wonder if they told the story of why Iranians stormed the embassy.

According to someone there at the time, the movie was more or less accurate.

But retired teacher, Reza Abbasi, who saw the Revolution first-hand, said: “I know Hollywood usually changes reality to make it attractive for movie lovers, but more or less it was close to the realities then.”

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Yeah, I'm with Iran on this one. I get so bored and tired of American revisionist cinema.

Oh, like you know what really happened. Even Iran won't touch that part of their history. Iranians don't even know except the propaganda that their government fed them.

If anybody wants to make a true documentary of it, then the U.S. but especially Iran has to open up their records and have a 3rd party interview the participants with no consequences. Good luck with that.

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darknuts: I wonder if they told the story of why Iranians stormed the embassy.

Why not just watch the movie and find out for yourself.

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said Shieda, a 21-year-old University of Tehran student, who gave only her first name to avoid possible backlash for speaking with foreign media.

Pretty much sums it up.

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slumdog, then since you think WHY doesn't matter, then you would also oppose the American Colonial and French revolutions?

The Iranian revolution was finished when the embassy was stormed. It was wrong to storm it. Storming embassies is wrong.

Why matters.

Not in the case of embassies being stormed. There is no excuse.

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who gave only her first name to avoid possible backlash for speaking with foreign media.

Ah, freedom.

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The movie seemed fair on a number of points.

There were a lot of references to the Shah and the horrible U.S. positions toward the Shah and Iran. For example, there was a mention that the U.S. didn't want to give the Shah to Iran out of fear of upsetting all the other despots friendly to the U.S, and a reference that he looted Iran by loading a plane with so much gold it almost didn't get off the ground.

There were also a lot of references to the revolutionaries and their mind set. Most of the movie produced references leave an impression of crazed Iranian revolutionaries, which was (is) true. However, there was actual footage in the movie that supported that characterization, e.g., the young woman calling the U.S. the great Satan.

I thought the better movie was Zero Dark Thirty and I haven't seen Lincoln. ZDT had a more genuine feel than Argo with all of its contrived history to make the story play better with audiences.

If Iran wants to make a movie that people will respect, they should get Asghar Farhadi to make it. However, he has complained about the artistic limitations of filming in Iran, so I doubt any movie from Iran will be anything more than propaganda.

I honestly think Argo won only because it portrayed the film industry in a good light, e.g., a non-violent rescue using the cover of a movie shoot.

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Britain also scoffs. "An Oscar for sneering at the British" says the Daily Mail. According to Jimmy Carter 90% of it was down to the Canadians, so they're probably scoffing too.

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" slumdog at Feb. 26, 2013 - 10:29AM JST quoted : " I wonder if they told the story of why Iranians stormed the embassy." According to someone there at the time, the movie was more or less accurate. "But retired teacher, Reza Abbasi, who saw the Revolution first-hand, said: “I know Hollywood usually changes reality to make it attractive for movie lovers, but more or less it was close to the realities then.”"

@slumdog, the question wasn't about the embassy siege itself, but rather WHY it occurred. That's why darknuts mentioned a possible title "All The SHAH's Men", a reference to the 1949 film, "All The King's Men", a great film on politician corruption.

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but rather WHY it occurred

Doesn't matter. Storming embassies should not be condoned under any circumstances.

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@darknuts, yes, I'd like to see a film made about how the Shah was installed, a coup that ousted the democratically elected president of Iran by a CIA/MI6 collaboration.

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Oh, like you know what really happened>

No I don't. Saying I'm with Iran on this one does not in any way mean I know what really happened. However, I'm pretty sure from reading accounts of the events that although the generalities of the movie plot are acurate, it's still revisionist.

Iranians don't even know except the propaganda that their government fed them.>

True. Also keep in mind that this is propaganda that Hollywood is feeding you. I'm "with" Iran on this one because I think the award was politically motivated.. More likely patriotically motivated as, honestly, I didn't think the movie was all that great.

I doubted anyone was silly enough to take Hollywood garbage seriously. >

Are you for real?? That's the problem. So many people who have sawdust for brains, will look at this movie and say "oh, so that's what happened" ( and other Hollywood, and other film studios movie versions of history). If you have Facebook, read Lamebook, and read the coments on YouTube etc , then you will be well aware that it seems like the majority of youth are thicker than a piece of 4 by 2.

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A real danger today is that a lot of people get their "history" from tv and movies

I think it is even more of a danger that a lot of people get their 'history' from the internet.

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" I think it is even more of a danger that a lot of people get their 'history' from the internet."

Ever heard of reading books? Read the complete writings of Lincoln and then compare the tripe in a textbook from your schools.

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@slumdog, the internet is also a source of unfiltered data. You can freely access all of Lincoln's writings here:

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?page=browse&c=lincoln

From the horse's mouth.

And anyone can read Lincoln's own words in " Address on Colonization to a Deputation of Negroes" also among the collected writings.

Kinda tarnishes the image of Abe, though.

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Thanks for that. I wasn't aware that Lincoln had an opinion about the Iranian revolution.

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He had a very clear opinion about revolutions if you bother to read.

Again, thank you so much. What were his opinions about the Oscar-winning movie, Argo? How about the Iranian revolution? Did he discuss how some people love to go off-topic about things that have little or nothing to do with the discussion at hand?

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" Again, thank you so much."

You're so very welcome. Have a nice day.

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" Again, thank you so much."

You're so very welcome. Have a nice day.

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Iran's state TV dismissed the Oscar-winning film "Argo" on Monday as an "advertisement for the CIA"

Both Iran and North Korea sound the same and admittedly I often waste time wondering why the hell the rest of the world even cares about what stupidity they spew. Oh, I know, it does amuse us and put a smile on our faces but really Iran's government comes across as a knackered old stupid goat with statements like that.

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I had to laugh when I saw the Iranian-altered photo of Michelle Obama, in which they changed her sleeveless dress to one with sleeves, lol.

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I think it is even more of a danger that a lot of people get their 'history' from the internet.

Well, lets look at where people get their historical information.

Books, movies, TV, schools and the internet.

The information on the internet is written by a multitude of people distributing the information through some business enterprise or institution.

The information in schools are written by a multitude of people distributing the information through some business enterprise or institution.

The information on TV is written by a multitude of people distributing the information through some business enterprise or institution.

The information in movies are written by a multitude of people distributing the information through some business enterprise or institution.

The information in books are written by a multitude of people distributing the information through some business enterprise or institution.

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I doubted anyone was silly enough to take Hollywood garbage seriously. You live and learn.

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Tardistraveller, well said! A real danger today is that a lot of people get their "history" from tv and movies. Easily and willingly programmed dumb-bots who never crack a book unless it's Harry Potter or some such. Some historical revision is needed because much accepted history is fabricated. Newer research of original source documents often reveal the official story as whitewashed. Lincoln Unmasked is a good book with facts that are inconvenient to the establishment.

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" I wasn't aware that Lincoln had an opinion about the Iranian revolution."

He had a very clear opinion about revolutions if you bother to read.

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Not sure why Argo won. Academy maybe so thrilled that movies make a difference? Story itself wasn't that good.

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Yeah, I'm with Iran on this one. I get so bored and tired of American revisionist cinema.

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