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Jane Campion sorry over Williams sisters 'guys' remark

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Lower the bar of sensitivity to offence far enough, and everyone gets to walk on eggshells. Society is now a horror movie. Just sit back with some popcorn and enjoy the show.

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She is white and they are black. How could it not be racist?

Because it isn’t.

You are getting a bit triggered and emotional here. I find those people who find racism everywhere and those who lose the plot in response to these people are actually quite similar.

BigYen is on the money. A really posturing, cringeworthy comment.

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If you're looking for racism, then racism is what you'll find.

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its so safe to sit on the fence

I agreed with BigYen that I didn’t find any racism in the comment. That’s my opinion here.

I tend to judge these things on their individual merits. If I think a comment is racist, I’ll say so. If I think it isn’t, I’ll say so.

It’s a strange habit for some.

I find it quite normal. Maybe it’s just me.

Must be true that women in the boardroom vilify other women, whether or not it’s warranted

Yes, that must be true after a comment from a female movie director.

It’s quite the thread this.

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 agreed with BigYen that I didn’t find any racism in the comment. That’s my opinion here. 

so you agree with what you just described as a "hysterical" reaction.

ok, then.

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so you agree with what you just described as a “hysterical” reaction

ok, then.

No idea what you are talking about. Please write logically.

As for your earlier comment, I don’t take a ‘side’ here.

Someone makes a comment I regard as racist - I call it out.

Someone is accused of racism for a comment I don’t regard as racist - I call it out.

It really is that simple. I could be wrong in my judgement but I’ll give an opinion.

I find those who see racism everywhere and those who lose the plot over these people both extremely unhelpful.

Too emotional.

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Did this person make similar remarks directed at caucasians?

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Woke reaction Ms Campion had to reply to in these dark days (no pun intended).

She refered to them as champions who were only fighting in a woman's pit, while she had to fight against men too.

Why is logic and common sense disappearing, and is hypocrisy leading the media ?

You become racist when you refer to them first as black or white something...

I had friends of all colour since I was born and I never thought of a level of "darkness" of skin from when I will be able to tag them for sure as black or whatever.

I love on the opposite asking where people come from. You will culture and originality and not just a single colour with no reference.

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Campion has a valid point. Sports are generally segregated by sex, so the Williams sisters only compete with other women. If they played against men?

Actually, they did. They both played a set against the 203rd ranked male player and were squashed. This after the guy played a round of golf in the morning and also enjoyed a couple of adult beverages.

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let the left continue to cancel themselves and apologize themselves into oblivion for normal, factual statements. It benefits us all in the end to be rid of such unserious people from the public square.

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et the left continue to cancel themselves and apologize themselves into oblivion for normal, factual statements. It benefits us all in the end to be rid of such unserious people from the public square.

Thats the beautiful thing about the left. In time, they ALWAYS eat their own.

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The comment doesn’t need any more OTT reactions from people looking for excuses to be offended.

Precisely. Particularly when they are taking offense on other people's behalf. The only people whose reactions matter are the Williams'.

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It benefits us all in the end to be rid of such unserious people from the public square

I see where you’re coming from. I get exasperated with the extremists on the left - seeing racism everywhere, safe spaces etc.

Irritating and ridiculous.

The extremists can shout very loud though.

To give balance, look at the extremists on the right - stolen elections/walls closing in on Biden, Jewish space lasers etc.

Irritating and demented.

Again the extremists can shout very loud though.

Nonsense on both sides. Plenty of people who lack the temperaments, intelligence and maturity for the public square. Then again, I believe in free speech - let’s just ignore them.

Anyway, sounds like we both want a bit of sanity.

Here’s hoping, eh?

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Calling this racist sounds like something the Russia Troll Farms do to seed dissent on online forums. No one can actually be stupid enough to think that comment was racist. Anyone claiming it was is trolling for reactions. That level of stupidity doesn't actually exist in humanity.

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Not recognizing as racist Campion's remark directed towards the Williams, which casually tossed aside the hardships those women overcame--despite their race, shows how easily racism pervades people's psyche.

There is a reason Campion apologized. She will learn.

Hopefully so will other posters.

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Not recognizing as racist Campion's remark directed towards the Williams, which casually tossed aside the hardships those women overcame

No it didn't. All she did was make a comparison to her own situation - in which she has to compete with men - to the William's sisters, where they were competing in sport without men. That's not racist, nor is it casting aside the hardships they came. It is making a comparison. There wasn't a good reasont to say this, so it could be considered as not being a socially intelligent comment, but it was not racist.

Trying to cast it as racist, when this woman clearly had no racist intent behind it is frankly far-right woke extremism, which is no better than far-left hate extremism.

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master,

Thats the beautiful thing about the left. In time, they ALWAYS eat their own.

Why are all famous and talented people automatically "the left"?

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StrangerlandToday  06:33 am JST

Trying to cast it as racist, when this woman clearly had no racist intent behind it is frankly far-right woke extremism, which is no better than far-left hate extremism.

Prime example of not being able to recognize racism.

This is as much a danger as overt racism.

Hence, Campion's apology.

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Prime example of not being able to recognize racism.

Oh please, I've been the victim of real racism; not given jobs, not allowed to live in places, barred entrance to establishments based purely on my race. Enough with the binary wokeness. I very well understand racism. I'm just not agreeing with your far-left definition of it. That said, I'm an open-minded person, so if you can explain exactly how the comment by this person is discriminating racially against the Williams sisters, I'm open to having been wrong. If you are able to recognize it so clearly as being racist, as you claim, you should be able to clearly define what it is about the statement that discriminates against them based on their race.

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Critic’s Choice: The winner is Jane Campion!

Jane: Thank you. Now, let me attack Black women minding their own damn business.

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This article and comments thread has me totally confused.

What on earth is racist about pointing out that female tennis players play against other females? A socially inept, insensitive, gratuitous and unnecessary insult, yes. Racist? How? Why? Where?

And what gives with the left/right comments?

Have we reached the stage where saying anything about anyone who happens to have a different skin colour is automatically racist, regardless of the content of what is said?

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JimizoMar. 15  10:41 am JST

She is white and they are black. How could it not be racist?

Because it isn’t.

You are getting a bit triggered and emotional here. I find those people who find racism everywhere and those who lose the plot in response to these people are actually quite similar.

BigYen is on the money. A really posturing, cringeworthy comment.

Just because somebody makes a dumb remark about two people of another race/etnicity/color doesn't necessarily mean that it's racist. Jane didn't refer to the Williams sisters by their race, she didn't even say 'black'.

to be honest, I don't even see anything that really is misogynistic here either. What Jane Campton said was a careless and DUMB remark. Haven't many recipients of awards said some gushy pedantic 'thank yous' and made some moronic dull jokes live on TV? That's nothing new. Jane Campton made a DUMB remark and she didn't mean to offend anyone. no malice intended here, just a DUMB remark.

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